We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by muppet hi fi » 14 Nov 2017, 10:43am

Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:17am
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 9:51am
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14 Nov 2017, 9:46am
The absolute adoration that Swans inspires in their fans is one of the most baffling things in pop music. Treating them as anything less than the rape-iest of rock n roll, the working class, and the American Dream is somehow heretical.
Sit Heston in a room with a CD player and two CD compliations on of The Swans and one of Bruce. Heston will go mad either way but he ain't dying listening to no Swans music.

When it comes to god damn awful cover versions this takes the biscuit.
Why would anyone like that? Why would anyone perform that? Must be a sociopathic rapist thing.

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Marky Dread » 14 Nov 2017, 10:45am

muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:43am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:17am
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 9:51am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 9:46am
The absolute adoration that Swans inspires in their fans is one of the most baffling things in pop music. Treating them as anything less than the rape-iest of rock n roll, the working class, and the American Dream is somehow heretical.
Sit Heston in a room with a CD player and two CD compliations on of The Swans and one of Bruce. Heston will go mad either way but he ain't dying listening to no Swans music.

When it comes to god damn awful cover versions this takes the biscuit.
Why would anyone like that? Why would anyone perform that? Must be a sociopathic rapist thing.
Bruce's version is sluggish and over-emoted. :mrgreen:
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by muppet hi fi » 14 Nov 2017, 10:46am

Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:45am
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:43am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:17am
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 9:51am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 9:46am
The absolute adoration that Swans inspires in their fans is one of the most baffling things in pop music. Treating them as anything less than the rape-iest of rock n roll, the working class, and the American Dream is somehow heretical.
Sit Heston in a room with a CD player and two CD compliations on of The Swans and one of Bruce. Heston will go mad either way but he ain't dying listening to no Swans music.

When it comes to god damn awful cover versions this takes the biscuit.
Why would anyone like that? Why would anyone perform that? Must be a sociopathic rapist thing.
Bruce's version is sluggish and over-emoted. :mrgreen:
Well yes, there's that. :twitch:

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Marky Dread » 14 Nov 2017, 10:48am

muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:46am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:45am
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:43am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 10:17am
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 9:51am
Sit Heston in a room with a CD player and two CD compliations on of The Swans and one of Bruce. Heston will go mad either way but he ain't dying listening to no Swans music.

When it comes to god damn awful cover versions this takes the biscuit.
Why would anyone like that? Why would anyone perform that? Must be a sociopathic rapist thing.
Bruce's version is sluggish and over-emoted. :mrgreen:
Well yes, there's that. :twitch:
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Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Nov 2017, 11:16am

This isn't an especially strong refutation of my assertion that Springsteen fans are thin-skinned. Just sayin' is all.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Marky Dread » 14 Nov 2017, 11:17am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
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This isn't an especially strong refutation of my assertion that Springsteen fans are thin-skinned. Just sayin' is all.
Well I'm a Springsteen fan but I'm not a zealot. That's a lot of people to tar with the same brush.
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Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Nov 2017, 11:24am

Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 11:17am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 11:16am
This isn't an especially strong refutation of my assertion that Springsteen fans are thin-skinned. Just sayin' is all.
Well I'm a Springsteen fan but I'm not a zealot. That's a lot of people to tar with the same brush.
Do you really think my statement should be read that way? That anyone who likes Springsteen is automatically a zealot? Hoy is the biggest Brooose fan on the board and he has a good sense of humour about the guy's weaknesses, so of course I can see variety. It should have been obvious that I was referring to the superfan, especially of the rock critic variety, that treats him as the last, best hope for all that is good.
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Post by Marky Dread » 14 Nov 2017, 11:56am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 11:24am
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 11:17am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 11:16am
This isn't an especially strong refutation of my assertion that Springsteen fans are thin-skinned. Just sayin' is all.
Well I'm a Springsteen fan but I'm not a zealot. That's a lot of people to tar with the same brush.
Do you really think my statement should be read that way? That anyone who likes Springsteen is automatically a zealot? Hoy is the biggest Brooose fan on the board and he has a good sense of humour about the guy's weaknesses, so of course I can see variety. It should have been obvious that I was referring to the superfan, especially of the rock critic variety, that treats him as the last, best hope for all that is good.
I didn't see you mention "superfan" anywhere before this post only "Springsteen fans". That would apply to anybody who is over zealous of any band. I'm saying that it isn't the case of there being one type of Springsteen fan. I suppose when it comes to The Clash I'm an absolute crazy fucker as I spend hours upon hours listening to live shows and reworking them. Some people just like what they like is all. I don't like the term "superfan" very much you may very well be a superfan of Wire but you are different to the next guy who likes them.

You also attacked his music for being over emotional and sluggish although this was Heston's opinion of "Born to Run" you stated it applied to all his music which is somewhat harsh. "The absolute adoration that Springsteen inspires in his fans is one of the most baffling things in pop music" (you don't mention rock critics only "his fans") how is this any different to Michael Jackson/Prince/Madonna/The Clash or Elvis?

Not everyone believes Bruce is the second coming or even the third. Rock 'n' Roll saved Bruce not the other way 'round.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Nov 2017, 12:47pm

I hereby offer an unqualified apology to every Springsteen fan who was offended by my statement. I shall never speak ill of him or them again.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Silent Majority » 14 Nov 2017, 12:47pm

I like Bruce a lot and in some ways I like making fun of him even more.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Marky Dread » 14 Nov 2017, 1:11pm

Silent Majority wrote:
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I like Bruce a lot and in some ways I like making fun of him even more.
This is the spirit mate.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Marky Dread » 14 Nov 2017, 1:13pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
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I hereby offer an unqualified apology to every Springsteen fan who was offended by my statement. I shall never speak ill of him or them again.
OK your "I love Bruce more than Wire" T shirt is in the post. It's a special edition signed by his dog.

Edit : well I say it's his dog but it might his neighbors dog.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Silent Majority » 14 Nov 2017, 1:16pm

Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 1:11pm
Silent Majority wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 12:47pm
I like Bruce a lot and in some ways I like making fun of him even more.
This is the spirit mate.
All this talk has inspired me to put on my Live In Dublin DVD. I've said before, I wish Bruce was backed by the Seeger Sessions band all the time.
'But also: hey dude, you can just go looking for more glasses. They're all free now. '

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Marky Dread » 14 Nov 2017, 1:51pm

Silent Majority wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 1:16pm
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 1:11pm
Silent Majority wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 12:47pm
I like Bruce a lot and in some ways I like making fun of him even more.
This is the spirit mate.
All this talk has inspired me to put on my Live In Dublin DVD. I've said before, I wish Bruce was backed by the Seeger Sessions band all the time.
Very cool.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by JennyB » 14 Nov 2017, 3:32pm

Silent Majority wrote:
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I want to say there was a correlation between the time the Springsteen started receiving large scale broad acceptance and when Bryan Adams started getting big(in the US). And i can see marketing types wanting to frame things that way.
The subtext of the two for marketing was that after all that faggy black disco shit, goddammit, this was real white male rock—guys who change their own oil, drink beer, wear Levis, and fuck girls.
This is one of the many reasons why the gay as anything Frankie Goes to Hollywood cover of Born to Run is so good.

Even now, would Bruce's audience accept him covering something like Jet Boy Jet Girl or Glad to be Gay?
Right. Same reason why Scissor Sisters' version of Comfortably Numb is so great.

Speaking of Bryan Adams, this is the most disgusting song ever recorded:

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