The Challenge Thread

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revbob wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:15am
eumaas wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 9:51am
Inder wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 2:10am
Tension is probably my favourite KJ song. 😩
Same.
So perhaps I need to listen again. Is it the lyrics or music that appeal?
I mean, there's not much to the lyrics, so it's the overall song.
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eumaas wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:19am
revbob wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:15am
eumaas wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 9:51am
Inder wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 2:10am
Tension is probably my favourite KJ song. 😩
Same.
So perhaps I need to listen again. Is it the lyrics or music that appeal?
I mean, there's not much to the lyrics, so it's the overall song.
There's a certain claustrophobic feel to the song, to me anyway. It just kind of circles around and around.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:02am
Just as a reminder, I've got a Cocteau Twins list that's mostly off the beaten track—I think just three songs off the Stars and Topsoil compilation—ready for the posting should anyone be tempted.
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Silent Majority wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:56am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:02am
Just as a reminder, I've got a Cocteau Twins list that's mostly off the beaten track—I think just three songs off the Stars and Topsoil compilation—ready for the posting should anyone be tempted.
Yeah, man. Hit me.
Okay, here ya go, chum. I think it's important to listen in this order, as well as not to substitute BBC recordings or remixes. The first five songs reflect their more gothic/post-punk beginnings, while the second batch show a band that is more varied, more dream pop. Plenty of alternative picks that would demonstrate the band's sound, but I think this captures their evolution pretty well (tho I'd be happy to hear critiques from Kory, eumaas, or other Cocteaus fans). Finally, "Orange Appled" and "Carolyn's Fingers" are both in my top ten or twelve favourite songs of all time (CF is just behind "Ceremony").

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The Spangle-Maker
Aikea-Guinea
Sigh's Smell of Farewell
Orange Appled
Carolyn’s Fingers
Cherry-Coloured Funk
Tishbite
Alice
Smile

(If you have trouble locating any of these, lemme know and I'll hook you up.)
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Spangle-Maker is my favourite Cocteaus song. 😎
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:47am
eumaas wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:19am
revbob wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:15am
eumaas wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 9:51am
Inder wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 2:10am
Tension is probably my favourite KJ song. 😩
Same.
So perhaps I need to listen again. Is it the lyrics or music that appeal?
I mean, there's not much to the lyrics, so it's the overall song.
There's a certain claustrophobic feel to the song, to me anyway. It just kind of circles around and around.
It's also one of the all-time great songs to be pissed off to.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:18pm
Silent Majority wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:56am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:02am
Just as a reminder, I've got a Cocteau Twins list that's mostly off the beaten track—I think just three songs off the Stars and Topsoil compilation—ready for the posting should anyone be tempted.
Yeah, man. Hit me.
Okay, here ya go, chum. I think it's important to listen in this order, as well as not to substitute BBC recordings or remixes. The first five songs reflect their more gothic/post-punk beginnings, while the second batch show a band that is more varied, more dream pop. Plenty of alternative picks that would demonstrate the band's sound, but I think this captures their evolution pretty well (tho I'd be happy to hear critiques from Kory, eumaas, or other Cocteaus fans). Finally, "Orange Appled" and "Carolyn's Fingers" are both in my top ten or twelve favourite songs of all time (CF is just behind "Ceremony").

Musette and Drums
The Spangle-Maker
Aikea-Guinea
Sigh's Smell of Farewell
Orange Appled
Carolyn’s Fingers
Cherry-Coloured Funk
Tishbite
Alice
Smile

(If you have trouble locating any of these, lemme know and I'll hook you up.)
Thank you for including Cherry-Coloured Funk, that song gets me goin'. I'm going to listen to this list just for fun.
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Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:35pm
Thank you for including Cherry-Coloured Funk, that song gets me goin'.
Figuring out what to pick from HoLV was tough. I flip-flopped between "C-CF" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown." Not a bum song on the entire record.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:35pm
Thank you for including Cherry-Coloured Funk, that song gets me goin'.
Figuring out what to pick from HoLV was tough. I flip-flopped between "C-CF" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown." Not a bum song on the entire record.
I think it gets dumped on sometimes for being more accessible but I don't know why that's bad. Especially for this band, where "accessible" doesn't mean "radio-friendly."
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Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:35pm
Thank you for including Cherry-Coloured Funk, that song gets me goin'.
Figuring out what to pick from HoLV was tough. I flip-flopped between "C-CF" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown." Not a bum song on the entire record.
I think it gets dumped on sometimes for being more accessible but I don't know why that's bad. Especially for this band, where "accessible" doesn't mean "radio-friendly."
Yeah, it's far from a sell-out. They just went in a direction that wasn't quite so outré. It's an ideal introduction to the band.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:35pm
Thank you for including Cherry-Coloured Funk, that song gets me goin'.
Figuring out what to pick from HoLV was tough. I flip-flopped between "C-CF" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown." Not a bum song on the entire record.
I think it gets dumped on sometimes for being more accessible but I don't know why that's bad. Especially for this band, where "accessible" doesn't mean "radio-friendly."
Yeah, it's far from a sell-out. They just went in a direction that wasn't quite so outré. It's an ideal introduction to the band.
I actually played Cherry to a friend last weekend and he was blown away, having never heard them before.
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Inder wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:21pm
Spangle-Maker is my favourite Cocteaus song. 😎
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:47am
eumaas wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:19am
revbob wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 10:15am
eumaas wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 9:51am

Same.
So perhaps I need to listen again. Is it the lyrics or music that appeal?
I mean, there's not much to the lyrics, so it's the overall song.
There's a certain claustrophobic feel to the song, to me anyway. It just kind of circles around and around.
It's also one of the all-time great songs to be pissed off to.
I thought that was "Wonderful Christmas Time". Minus the great.

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Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 2:49pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:35pm
Thank you for including Cherry-Coloured Funk, that song gets me goin'.
Figuring out what to pick from HoLV was tough. I flip-flopped between "C-CF" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown." Not a bum song on the entire record.
I think it gets dumped on sometimes for being more accessible but I don't know why that's bad. Especially for this band, where "accessible" doesn't mean "radio-friendly."
Yeah, it's far from a sell-out. They just went in a direction that wasn't quite so outré. It's an ideal introduction to the band.
I actually played Cherry to a friend last weekend and he was blown away, having never heard them before.
Whenever I go on Cocteaus binges, there's a certain sadness to realize Liz Fraser's battles with mental illness and for someone who is blessed with that voice to not get such joy from it. How perversely cruel that is.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 3:33pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 2:49pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:49pm


Figuring out what to pick from HoLV was tough. I flip-flopped between "C-CF" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown." Not a bum song on the entire record.
I think it gets dumped on sometimes for being more accessible but I don't know why that's bad. Especially for this band, where "accessible" doesn't mean "radio-friendly."
Yeah, it's far from a sell-out. They just went in a direction that wasn't quite so outré. It's an ideal introduction to the band.
I actually played Cherry to a friend last weekend and he was blown away, having never heard them before.
Whenever I go on Cocteaus binges, there's a certain sadness to realize Liz Fraser's battles with mental illness and for someone who is blessed with that voice to not get such joy from it. How perversely cruel that is.
Definitely one of those things that can prove the nonexistence of god, at least any kind of benevolent and omnipotent one. Fuck mysterious ways.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 3:33pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 2:49pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 12:49pm


Figuring out what to pick from HoLV was tough. I flip-flopped between "C-CF" and "Fifty-Fifty Clown." Not a bum song on the entire record.
I think it gets dumped on sometimes for being more accessible but I don't know why that's bad. Especially for this band, where "accessible" doesn't mean "radio-friendly."
Yeah, it's far from a sell-out. They just went in a direction that wasn't quite so outré. It's an ideal introduction to the band.
I actually played Cherry to a friend last weekend and he was blown away, having never heard them before.
Whenever I go on Cocteaus binges, there's a certain sadness to realize Liz Fraser's battles with mental illness and for someone who is blessed with that voice to not get such joy from it. How perversely cruel that is.
On a related note, should I assume you're already familiar with the three songs she did with Massive Attack?
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Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 4:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 3:33pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 2:49pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:49pm
Kory wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 1:31pm


I think it gets dumped on sometimes for being more accessible but I don't know why that's bad. Especially for this band, where "accessible" doesn't mean "radio-friendly."
Yeah, it's far from a sell-out. They just went in a direction that wasn't quite so outré. It's an ideal introduction to the band.
I actually played Cherry to a friend last weekend and he was blown away, having never heard them before.
Whenever I go on Cocteaus binges, there's a certain sadness to realize Liz Fraser's battles with mental illness and for someone who is blessed with that voice to not get such joy from it. How perversely cruel that is.
On a related note, should I assume you're already familiar with the three songs she did with Massive Attack?
Yes and no. I know she did a few, but "Teardrop" is the only one I can think of. Two songs she put out under her own name, "Moses" and "Underwater," are pretty good.
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