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An odd thought: Judas Priest fan gets a copy of Turbo, hears the synths, gets angry and yells "Dylan!"
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I've read a few books on the making of Highway 61 Revisited and Blonde on Blonde. Personal taste aside, the usual consensus is these were fairy innovative albums. Where do you think Dylan fell short in making use of being plugged in on those records?
Addendum: Joking aside, I get the variances in personal taste in his catalog. But you understand craftmanship in music more than I do, so I'd be curious where folks have it wrong on his most acclaimed albums (his Rolling Thunder Revue live stuff, circa '75, is also an era I'd be interested in hearing where Dylan fell short).
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I haven't heard the live stuff you mention, so I'll check that now.Flex wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 3:03pmI've read a few books on the making of Highway 61 Revisited and Blonde on Blonde. Personal taste aside, the usual consensus is these were fairy innovative albums. Where do you think Dylan fell short in making use of being plugged in on those records?
Addendum: Joking aside, I get the variances in personal taste in his catalog. But you understand craftmanship in music more than I do, so I'd be curious where folks have it wrong on his most acclaimed albums (his Rolling Thunder Revue live stuff, circa '75, is also an era I'd be interested in hearing where Dylan fell short).
With regards to the the other two albums particularly, they always (with a few exception songs) struck me as either just the previous acoustic style but with an organ bed, percussion and some electric guitar flourishes, or just pretty standard-sounding blues songs. I guess that might have been innovative at the time, but it doesn't make for a very interesting listen for me, having already been into the first four albums. I think "it wasn't enough of a change" probably sums it up best. It's all just too subtle. I spend a lot of time listening to those albums thinking that they would have been better acoustic if he wasn't going to go balls out. I'll report back on the Rolling Thunder stuff.
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The Cure acoustic greatest hits sounds exactly like early acoustic REM.
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K. Wasn't self explanatory to me. It read like some cryptic Christgau-ish proclamation, as though any non-strictly acoustic Dylan has no aesthetic right to exist. You might have simply siad "It doesn't interest me."Kory wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 2:36pmYeah. Didn't like it. Also, his later raspy voice is a turnoff. I prefer the cleaner tone.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 12:43amDude, have you ever listened to 'Love & Theft'? Serious question...
Pretty self explanatory: I don't find it interesting. Most of it would have been better acoustic. Most of the time I find myself asking why he even went electric if he wasn't going to make full use of it.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 12:43amEDIT: and what exactly does the phrase "interesting enough to justify itself" mean?
As for not making the most of it (too few electric guitars?) - Mick Ronson with the Rolling Thunder Review; Robbie Robertson with The Band (especially the '74 tour).
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I agree. And I would add that his acoustic Personal Jesus is better than DM's. And that says a lot coming from me.Flex wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 12:40pmThis opinion is super wrong, but it did remind me that Dylan was doing great acoustic versions of electric songs on his '65 and '66 tours. I don't know if I'd call those performances "better" but certainly just as good.
Johnny Cash's acoustic version of Hurt is better than the Nine Inch Nails plugged in original, imho.
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Speaking of early REM, First Wave was playing covers of Bowie songs yesterday, and the Cure's cover of Young Americans came on. I forgot how awful that was. This was during their 90s musical output, so it makes sense.
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Judas.JennyB wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 1:12pmI agree. And I would add that his acoustic Personal Jesus is better than DM's. And that says a lot coming from me.Flex wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 12:40pmThis opinion is super wrong, but it did remind me that Dylan was doing great acoustic versions of electric songs on his '65 and '66 tours. I don't know if I'd call those performances "better" but certainly just as good.
Johnny Cash's acoustic version of Hurt is better than the Nine Inch Nails plugged in original, imho.
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Marky Dread wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 1:14pmJudas.JennyB wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 1:12pmI agree. And I would add that his acoustic Personal Jesus is better than DM's. And that says a lot coming from me.Flex wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 12:40pmThis opinion is super wrong, but it did remind me that Dylan was doing great acoustic versions of electric songs on his '65 and '66 tours. I don't know if I'd call those performances "better" but certainly just as good.
Johnny Cash's acoustic version of Hurt is better than the Nine Inch Nails plugged in original, imho.
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I have to agree on that. Just because coming from a seriously devout man, the song has a weird reverence that I’m into. And I still love the DM version (Violater 4eva)JennyB wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 1:14pmMarky Dread wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 1:14pmJudas.JennyB wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 1:12pmI agree. And I would add that his acoustic Personal Jesus is better than DM's. And that says a lot coming from me.Flex wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 12:40pmThis opinion is super wrong, but it did remind me that Dylan was doing great acoustic versions of electric songs on his '65 and '66 tours. I don't know if I'd call those performances "better" but certainly just as good.
Johnny Cash's acoustic version of Hurt is better than the Nine Inch Nails plugged in original, imho.
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