The Black Flag Thread

[CorwoodRep]

What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?

[Wolter]

What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?

There are two.

First Four Years collects singles and eps.

Everything Went Black collects rarities. A lot of duplicates with different vocalists.

Both are essential, though.

[Flex]

What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?

There are two.

First Four Years collects singles and eps.

Everything Went Black collects rarities. A lot of duplicates with different vocalists.

Both are essential, though.

I fully support Beej championing the Chavo era as Flag at its most authentic-ist. That would be awesome.

[matedog]

I think I have one BF song on my ipod.

[Wolter]

What's a good compilation or overview of the pre-Rollins stuff?

There are two.

First Four Years collects singles and eps.

Everything Went Black collects rarities. A lot of duplicates with different vocalists.

Both are essential, though.

I fully support Beej championing the Chavo era as Flag at its most authentic-ist. That would be awesome.

I actually had a friend in college of did that for that reason. I found it hilarious.

[Wolter]

I think I have one BF song on my ipod.

Please let it be from Family Man.

[matedog]

I think I have one BF song on my ipod.

Please let it be from Family Man.

The Nicolas Cage movie? Sorry, I don't usually enjoy his movies.

[Wolter]

I think I have one BF song on my ipod.

Please let it be from Family Man.

The Nicolas Cage movie? Sorry, I don't usually enjoy his movies.

You took a Hoyish thing and made it Hoyishier. I'm proud.

[ChicoHarris]

I think I have one BF song on my ipod.

Please let it be from Family Man.

The Nicolas Cage movie? Sorry, I don't usually enjoy his movies.

You took a Hoyish thing and made it Hoyishier. I'm proud.

Ha!

[eumaas]

Everyone thought the record was awful

Well, they were wrong.

[Silent Majority]

I think I have one BF song on my ipod.

I've got the Damaged CD. It's really cool stuff, I should download some more.

[IkarisOne]

Everyone thought the record was awful

Well, they were wrong.

Perhaps. But I'll tell you right now what I think the problem was- the shitty vinyl mastering. We were all used to listening to BF on 45s and the LP had no mid or low at all. Maybe later pressings fixed that. Ironically the same thing happened with This is Boston- the master tapes were phenomenal and it all sounded like squirrels fighting on vinyl. Personally, I prefer all of those songs with Dez, but that's just me.

[eumaas]

Everyone thought the record was awful

Well, they were wrong.

Perhaps. But I'll tell you right now what I think the problem was- the shitty vinyl mastering. We were all used to listening to BF on 45s and the LP had no mid or low at all. Maybe later pressings fixed that. Ironically the same thing happened with This is Boston- the master tapes were phenomenal and it all sounded like squirrels fighting on vinyl. Personally, I prefer all of those songs with Dez, but that's just me.

Shitty sound and SST go hand in hand, unfortunately.

All the pre-Hank vocalists were great punk/hardcore vocalists, but Henry commited to the Ginn lyrics in ways that Dez just didn't. Henry never held anything back. Reminds me of Jacques Brel in that regard.

[IkarisOne]

Everyone thought the record was awful

Well, they were wrong.

Perhaps. But I'll tell you right now what I think the problem was- the shitty vinyl mastering. We were all used to listening to BF on 45s and the LP had no mid or low at all. Maybe later pressings fixed that. Ironically the same thing happened with This is Boston- the master tapes were phenomenal and it all sounded like squirrels fighting on vinyl. Personally, I prefer all of those songs with Dez, but that's just me.

Shitty sound and SST go hand in hand, unfortunately.

All the pre-Hank vocalists were great punk/hardcore vocalists, but Henry commited to the Ginn lyrics in ways that Dez just didn't. Henry never held anything back. Reminds me of Jacques Brel in that regard.

Interesting. The only problem was that Black Flag vanished for what was essentially an eternity after Damaged and the scene just carried on without them. I'd say Minor Threat took their place. And when BF came back they were essentially the New Stooges at a time when Boston Hardcore was getting extremely reductionist and puritanical. It's funny- I remember My War came out the same day the tickets for Clash II @ Providence went onsale. Strangely enough, I remember the punks at Newbury Comics that day being a lot more excited about the Clash. Go figure.

[Flex]

Interesting. The only problem was that Black Flag vanished for what was essentially an eternity after Damaged and the scene just carried on without them. I'd say Minor Threat took their place. And when BF came back they were essentially the New Stooges at a time when Boston Hardcore was getting extremely reductionist and puritanical. It's funny- I remember My War came out the same day the tickets for Clash II @ Providence went onsale. Strangely enough, I remember the punks at Newbury Comics that day being a lot more excited about the Clash. Go figure.

What do you think of the '82 Demos? To me that's some of the greatest punk ever committed to tape, it's a shame it has never been officially released.