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Heston and Marky's Friday Top 5
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Personally I would leave off the Walker tracks.Low Down Low wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 5:23pmStruggling with this one. Not for a shortage of tracks, but to make a viable, coherent Strummer album. Would have a lot from Walker which I adore, nothing from Permanent Record which I don't (unless the outtakes are considered in which case Cholo Vest is a contender) and from the others Afro Cuban Be Bop is a certainty and Generations a probable.
Love Kills and Dum Dum Club are good songs, as is Its a Rocking World, but I just don't see them fitting with Walker tracks. I find it difficult to put them in any convenient Joe category at all.
Whilst I appreciate them for what they are it isn't my thing plus those tracks individually won't really fit on a comp album.
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Well you did pick The Unknown Immortal.101Walterton wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:40pmPersonally I would leave off the Walker tracks.Low Down Low wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 5:23pmStruggling with this one. Not for a shortage of tracks, but to make a viable, coherent Strummer album. Would have a lot from Walker which I adore, nothing from Permanent Record which I don't (unless the outtakes are considered in which case Cholo Vest is a contender) and from the others Afro Cuban Be Bop is a certainty and Generations a probable.
Love Kills and Dum Dum Club are good songs, as is Its a Rocking World, but I just don't see them fitting with Walker tracks. I find it difficult to put them in any convenient Joe category at all.
Whilst I appreciate them for what they are it isn't my thing plus those tracks individually won't really fit on a comp album.
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Good god, are you insane?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 3:54pmI guess I'd cut Dum Dum Club and Evil Darling to slot them in.
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I don't get this thing about tracks sitting right together and making viable, coherent albums. We're talking about a man who was involved with Sandinista and Earthquake Weather, both of which genre-hopped all over the place. Shouting Street next to Island Hopping, that kind of thing.
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I'm not saying they're awful songs by any means. Just that if two have to be sacrificed, those are the ones.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:46pmGood god, are you insane?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 3:54pmI guess I'd cut Dum Dum Club and Evil Darling to slot them in.
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Yeah, I know, but your choice is still insane.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:59pmI'm not saying they're awful songs by any means. Just that if two have to be sacrificed, those are the ones.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:46pmGood god, are you insane?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 3:54pmI guess I'd cut Dum Dum Club and Evil Darling to slot them in.
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If you want to nominate songs for replacement, I'm sure you'll seem just as insane. Just because, well, you know.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:00pmYeah, I know, but your choice is still insane.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:59pmI'm not saying they're awful songs by any means. Just that if two have to be sacrificed, those are the ones.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:46pmGood god, are you insane?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 3:54pmI guess I'd cut Dum Dum Club and Evil Darling to slot them in.
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Yeah I think it appears easier to find cohesion in those you mention because mainly they were recorded with same musicians at the same time period. It's not so much about different styles of music sitting next to one another as it is the feel of the music.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:49pmI don't get this thing about tracks sitting right together and making viable, coherent albums. We're talking about a man who was involved with Sandinista and Earthquake Weather, both of which genre-hopped all over the place. Shouting Street next to Island Hopping, that kind of thing.
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Burnin' Lights and Afro Cuban Be Bop.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:09pmIf you want to nominate songs for replacement, I'm sure you'll seem just as insane. Just because, well, you know.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:00pmYeah, I know, but your choice is still insane.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:59pmI'm not saying they're awful songs by any means. Just that if two have to be sacrificed, those are the ones.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:46pmGood god, are you insane?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 3:54pmI guess I'd cut Dum Dum Club and Evil Darling to slot them in.
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You're insane. I have no opinion about your picks.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:15pmBurnin' Lights and Afro Cuban Be Bop.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:09pmIf you want to nominate songs for replacement, I'm sure you'll seem just as insane. Just because, well, you know.
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Oh yeah, I can take that on board, but we were talking about a compilation album I think. Anyway, the jump between say, Unknown Immortal and Trash City isn't that great with the right kind of masteringMarky Dread wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:13pmYeah I think it appears easier to find cohesion in those you mention because mainly they were recorded with same musicians at the same time period. It's not so much about different styles of music sitting next to one another as it is the feel of the music.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:49pmI don't get this thing about tracks sitting right together and making viable, coherent albums. We're talking about a man who was involved with Sandinista and Earthquake Weather, both of which genre-hopped all over the place. Shouting Street next to Island Hopping, that kind of thing.
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Yeah the idea is/was to b an album of songs that Joe could of possibly of recorded as a follow up to EW had the rcord company not been such a useless bunch of fools. Imagine any of the tracks picked but all recorded by the same unit/producer.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:19pmOh yeah, I can take that on board, but we were talking about a compilation album I think. Anyway, the jump between say, Unknown Immortal and Trash City isn't that great with the right kind of masteringMarky Dread wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 7:13pmYeah I think it appears easier to find cohesion in those you mention because mainly they were recorded with same musicians at the same time period. It's not so much about different styles of music sitting next to one another as it is the feel of the music.Heston wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:49pmI don't get this thing about tracks sitting right together and making viable, coherent albums. We're talking about a man who was involved with Sandinista and Earthquake Weather, both of which genre-hopped all over the place. Shouting Street next to Island Hopping, that kind of thing.
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Not sure I can play with this one, as I don't know some of those one-off soundtrack songs ("Evil Darling" is very strong), and in any case, I've always viewed 'Permanent Record' and 'Earthquake Weather' and its b-sides to be of a piece (love 'em both). Certainly "Love Kills" and "Dum Dum Club" are great (especially Dum Dum Club, what with Micks haunting/haunted guitar), and the "proper" tracks from 'Walker' are great also, but I just can't come up with a list that would make sense as an album as they were recorded. A sympatico band cohesion is fundamental for an artist like Joe, even if it's a sub-par band that he has to carry (i.e. Clash II, LRW).
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Yep but I was talking in reference to the issue LDL raised.Marky Dread wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:45pmWell you did pick The Unknown Immortal.101Walterton wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 6:40pmPersonally I would leave off the Walker tracks.Low Down Low wrote: ↑07 Sep 2017, 5:23pmStruggling with this one. Not for a shortage of tracks, but to make a viable, coherent Strummer album. Would have a lot from Walker which I adore, nothing from Permanent Record which I don't (unless the outtakes are considered in which case Cholo Vest is a contender) and from the others Afro Cuban Be Bop is a certainty and Generations a probable.
Love Kills and Dum Dum Club are good songs, as is Its a Rocking World, but I just don't see them fitting with Walker tracks. I find it difficult to put them in any convenient Joe category at all.
Whilst I appreciate them for what they are it isn't my thing plus those tracks individually won't really fit on a comp album.