If Music Could Talk

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:57pm

Kory wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:51pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:38pm

Marky Dread wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:16pm

Oddly enough whenever I see that quote it for some reason reminds me of Mark Hollis and Talk Talk's music. There is something resplendent yet melancholic going on there.

It's such a curious thing to see Talk Talk—the latter period, that is—described as melancholy. I mean, yeah, it isn't uptempo energy and all, but I've always found it uplifting. There's a fundamental hopefulness to it all. I'd be cool with having Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock played at my funeral just to say, no worries, it's okay.

Done and done

Or Swans, to let people know that I never resolved my frustrations.

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:07pm

Mimi wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:39pm

I grew up dirt poor and had a shitty childhood. I was depressed then but stuffed all those feelings away. Although my relationship with someone who has a great career allows me to live a much better life now, I suffer from all the emotions I repressed as a kid. It hit me in my early 40s, and I've been dealing with it ever since. My brother, who actually was the target of abuse, is still poor and still suffers from depression. I don't doubt that our materialistic culture has an impact on some people, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable with comparing that kind of depression to clinical depression or something like PTSD. The former can be easily fixed by adjusting your mindset; the latter two, well, not so much. But, and I probably should have said this first, I don't like minimizing anyone's pain. I'm not in your brain, your heart, your soul and will never know the depths of another's burdens.

My apologies if my comments made it seem that I believed all depressions / anxieties / etc are basically the same and can be treated similarly. There are some people who clearly went thru traumatic episodes that horribly altered the way they perceive and interact with the world. I was speaking more to where revbob was coming from, that place where someone can look at their material comfort and think, What have you got to be depressed about? It's maddening for all involved, and can just encourage further feelings of poor self-worth because you think, Yeah, asshole, why aren't you happy with all you got? You're faking this, you little attention whore. Nothing demonstrates how powerful the human brain is than when it weaponizes itself against its host, making sure the answer to all scenarios ends with, You're a loser.

Wolter wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:08pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:57pm

Kory wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:51pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:38pm

Marky Dread wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:16pm

Oddly enough whenever I see that quote it for some reason reminds me of Mark Hollis and Talk Talk's music. There is something resplendent yet melancholic going on there.

It's such a curious thing to see Talk Talk—the latter period, that is—described as melancholy. I mean, yeah, it isn't uptempo energy and all, but I've always found it uplifting. There's a fundamental hopefulness to it all. I'd be cool with having Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock played at my funeral just to say, no worries, it's okay.

Done and done

Or Swans, to let people know that I never resolved my frustrations.

Sorry. Canadian law has decreed you can only have the Tragically Hip.

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:57pm

Kory wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:51pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:38pm

Marky Dread wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:16pm

Oddly enough whenever I see that quote it for some reason reminds me of Mark Hollis and Talk Talk's music. There is something resplendent yet melancholic going on there.

It's such a curious thing to see Talk Talk—the latter period, that is—described as melancholy. I mean, yeah, it isn't uptempo energy and all, but I've always found it uplifting. There's a fundamental hopefulness to it all. I'd be cool with having Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock played at my funeral just to say, no worries, it's okay.

Done and done

Or Swans, to let people know that I never resolved my frustrations.

Mimi wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:16pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:07pm

Mimi wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:39pm

I grew up dirt poor and had a shitty childhood. I was depressed then but stuffed all those feelings away. Although my relationship with someone who has a great career allows me to live a much better life now, I suffer from all the emotions I repressed as a kid. It hit me in my early 40s, and I've been dealing with it ever since. My brother, who actually was the target of abuse, is still poor and still suffers from depression. I don't doubt that our materialistic culture has an impact on some people, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable with comparing that kind of depression to clinical depression or something like PTSD. The former can be easily fixed by adjusting your mindset; the latter two, well, not so much. But, and I probably should have said this first, I don't like minimizing anyone's pain. I'm not in your brain, your heart, your soul and will never know the depths of another's burdens.

My apologies if my comments made it seem that I believed all depressions / anxieties / etc are basically the same and can be treated similarly. There are some people who clearly went thru traumatic episodes that horribly altered the way they perceive and interact with the world. I was speaking more to where revbob was coming from, that place where someone can look at their material comfort and think, What have you got to be depressed about? It's maddening for all involved, and can just encourage further feelings of poor self-worth because you think, Yeah, asshole, why aren't you happy with all you got? You're faking this, you little attention whore. Nothing demonstrates how powerful the human brain is than when it weaponizes itself against its host, making sure the answer to all scenarios ends with, You're a loser.

No, you're fine. I wasn't thinking that. In this country, not sure if it's a USA Fuck Yeah! thing or not, but there's this attitude that complaining is wrong and self-indulgent. Folks get blasted if they come across as a whiner who can't pull themselves up from their own bootstraps. For those suffering with depression, where it's already hard to talk about, that mentality just makes it harder, and when I hear of studies or of folks who are somewhat unsympathetic, I get words coming out of my mouth. I may have lost my point. lol I just ate lunch and man I feel like someone clubbed me upside my head. I need a nap.

Heston wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:29pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:57pm

Kory wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 1:51pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:38pm

Marky Dread wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2019, 9:16pm

Oddly enough whenever I see that quote it for some reason reminds me of Mark Hollis and Talk Talk's music. There is something resplendent yet melancholic going on there.

It's such a curious thing to see Talk Talk—the latter period, that is—described as melancholy. I mean, yeah, it isn't uptempo energy and all, but I've always found it uplifting. There's a fundamental hopefulness to it all. I'd be cool with having Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock played at my funeral just to say, no worries, it's okay.

Done and done

Or Swans, to let people know that I never resolved my frustrations.

That will save me the plane fare.

101Walterton wrote: ↑

15 Aug 2014, 9:41pm

Silent Majority wrote:

Heston wrote:

Silent Majority wrote:Basically, everyone has always assumed he was a paedophile and got on with their lives.

This might actually be my favourite ever post on IMCT.

I love 101's method of explaining stuff that's about to happen. Round about Pearl Harbour, there'd be a single, correct post with no context about how the tides might be erratic on December 7th.

Can't exactly spell it out!!

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:30pm

Mimi wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:16pm

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No, you're fine. I wasn't thinking that. In this country, not sure if it's a USA Fuck Yeah! thing or not, but there's this attitude that complaining is wrong and self-indulgent. Folks get blasted if they come across as a whiner who can't pull themselves up from their own bootstraps. For those suffering with depression, where it's already hard to talk about, that mentality just makes it harder, and when I hear of studies or of folks who are somewhat unsympathetic, I get words coming out of my mouth. I may have lost my point. lol I just ate lunch and man I feel like someone clubbed me upside my head. I need a nap.

The culture is improving here, but, yeah, it's still that "get over it" and "you're making my life tough with your whining." My dad was especially like that—people with mental health issues or addictions were just weak-willed. They couldn't "handle" life. And as much progress as I've made with understanding that that's completely false, when I'm going thru a bad period, that shit comes back, asserting itself as true.

revbob wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 10:06am

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:30pm

Mimi wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:16pm

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No, you're fine. I wasn't thinking that. In this country, not sure if it's a USA Fuck Yeah! thing or not, but there's this attitude that complaining is wrong and self-indulgent. Folks get blasted if they come across as a whiner who can't pull themselves up from their own bootstraps. For those suffering with depression, where it's already hard to talk about, that mentality just makes it harder, and when I hear of studies or of folks who are somewhat unsympathetic, I get words coming out of my mouth. I may have lost my point. lol I just ate lunch and man I feel like someone clubbed me upside my head. I need a nap.

The culture is improving here, but, yeah, it's still that "get over it" and "you're making my life tough with your whining." My dad was especially like that—people with mental health issues or addictions were just weak-willed. They couldn't "handle" life. And as much progress as I've made with understanding that that's completely false, when I'm going thru a bad period, that shit comes back, asserting itself as true.

Yeah I didn't want to seem to give creedence to the idea that depression is because you do t really have it hard enough. It's just a struggle I have if I try to discuss this with my wife. And not having someone else to talk to it that doesn't have a somewhat vested interest can cause you to question yourself.

revbob wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 10:06am

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:30pm

Mimi wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019, 2:16pm

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No, you're fine. I wasn't thinking that. In this country, not sure if it's a USA Fuck Yeah! thing or not, but there's this attitude that complaining is wrong and self-indulgent. Folks get blasted if they come across as a whiner who can't pull themselves up from their own bootstraps. For those suffering with depression, where it's already hard to talk about, that mentality just makes it harder, and when I hear of studies or of folks who are somewhat unsympathetic, I get words coming out of my mouth. I may have lost my point. lol I just ate lunch and man I feel like someone clubbed me upside my head. I need a nap.

The culture is improving here, but, yeah, it's still that "get over it" and "you're making my life tough with your whining." My dad was especially like that—people with mental health issues or addictions were just weak-willed. They couldn't "handle" life. And as much progress as I've made with understanding that that's completely false, when I'm going thru a bad period, that shit comes back, asserting itself as true.

Yeah I didn't want to seem to give creedence to the idea that depression is because you do t really have it hard enough. It's just a struggle I have if I try to discuss this with my wife. And not having someone else to talk to it that doesn't have a somewhat vested interest can cause you to question yourself.

Mimi wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 10:50am

revbob wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 10:06am

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Yeah I didn't want to seem to give creedence to the idea that depression is because you dont really have it hard enough. It's just a struggle I have if I try to discuss this with my wife. And not having someone else to talk to it that doesn't have a somewhat vested interest can cause you to question yourself.

I'm sorry you have to go through that. Not being validated sucks balls.

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 5:52pm

I'v got an electrical mystery for y'all. My office has one of those track lighting rods on the ceiling, with slots for six bulbs (the kind with flat surface, two pins as connectors). It's also got a four-setting dimmer switch (off, low, medium, high). The bulbs were halogen, which used a lot of juice, burned out easily, and ran really hot. I was out getting bulbs for something else when I saw LEDs for that kind, so I picked up a pack and started replacing the old ones. All was going well, taking out a halogen and replacing it with an LED one by one, until I got to the last one. Once I replaced that, the entire string lit up on low despite the switch being off. The only way I could get it back to the off setting was by putting back one halogen. My thinking is that it's dimmer related, but the dimmer function does work—the LEDs' intensity alters as the switch changes. I'm baffled why putting in all LEDs negates the off setting but one halogen restores it. Thoughts?

revbob wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 7:04pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 5:52pm

I'v got an electrical mystery for y'all. My office has one of those track lighting rods on the ceiling, with slots for six bulbs (the kind with flat surface, two pins as connectors). It's also got a four-setting dimmer switch (off, low, medium, high). The bulbs were halogen, which used a lot of juice, burned out easily, and ran really hot. I was out getting bulbs for something else when I saw LEDs for that kind, so I picked up a pack and started replacing the old ones. All was going well, taking out a halogen and replacing it with an LED one by one, until I got to the last one. Once I replaced that, the entire string lit up on low despite the switch being off. The only way I could get it back to the off setting was by putting back one halogen. My thinking is that it's dimmer related, but the dimmer function does work—the LEDs' intensity alters as the switch changes. I'm baffled why putting in all LEDs negates the off setting but one halogen restores it. Thoughts?

Im not entirely sure I understand the situation. Can you turn the dimmer up all the way and bring allthe LEDs to full power? Are the LED bulbs you have "dimmable"? They aren't by default. In order to handle the variable current they would usually have some extra electronics in them. There are dimmer switches that are specifically designed to use with LED bulbs too. It sounds like even when "off" there is a trickle of current which is enough to power the LEDs. Putting the halogen in creates enough load that there's not enough power at the low setting.

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 7:12pm

revbob wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 7:04pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019, 5:52pm

I'v got an electrical mystery for y'all. My office has one of those track lighting rods on the ceiling, with slots for six bulbs (the kind with flat surface, two pins as connectors). It's also got a four-setting dimmer switch (off, low, medium, high). The bulbs were halogen, which used a lot of juice, burned out easily, and ran really hot. I was out getting bulbs for something else when I saw LEDs for that kind, so I picked up a pack and started replacing the old ones. All was going well, taking out a halogen and replacing it with an LED one by one, until I got to the last one. Once I replaced that, the entire string lit up on low despite the switch being off. The only way I could get it back to the off setting was by putting back one halogen. My thinking is that it's dimmer related, but the dimmer function does work—the LEDs' intensity alters as the switch changes. I'm baffled why putting in all LEDs negates the off setting but one halogen restores it. Thoughts?

Im not entirely sure I understand the situation. Can you turn the dimmer up all the way and bring allthe LEDs to full power? Are the LED bulbs you have "dimmable"? They aren't by default. In order to handle the variable current they would usually have some extra electronics in them. There are dimmer switches that are specifically designed to use with LED bulbs too. It sounds like even when "off" there is a trickle of current which is enough to power the LEDs. Putting the halogen in creates enough load that there's not enough power at the low setting.

Yup, altering the dimmer settings increases or decreases the intensity of the LEDs. The switch would have been installed before LEDs were on the market (or at least common). Your point does make sense, that there is no real off, but only super low current that is enough for LEDs but not when there's a juice-hungry halogen in the string. Thanks!