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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 6:48am
by Dr. Medulla
And, surprising no one, now Beto. I'm guessing that the frontrunners, then, are him, Harris, and Sanders.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 11:23am
by WestwayKid
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 6:48am
And, surprising no one, now Beto. I'm guessing that the frontrunners, then, are him, Harris, and Sanders.
At least until Joe makes a decision...

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 12:02pm
by revbob
WestwayKid wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 11:23am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 6:48am
And, surprising no one, now Beto. I'm guessing that the frontrunners, then, are him, Harris, and Sanders.
At least until Joe makes a decision...
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Did somebody order milquetoast?

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 12:06pm
by Dr. Medulla
WestwayKid wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 11:23am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 6:48am
And, surprising no one, now Beto. I'm guessing that the frontrunners, then, are him, Harris, and Sanders.
At least until Joe makes a decision...
His attack dog qualities served him well as a running mate; as his own man, I don't think he'll play. There have also been stories that his dithering has meant funding sources have already found homes.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 1:30pm
by Dr. Medulla
Painful dissection of whether Beto's life has been sufficiently punk: https://theslot.jezebel.com/is-beto-a-p ... 1833288379

Even tho it's clearly a fluffy piece, the whole This is Punk and That's Not Punk categorization is wincing.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 1:41pm
by JennyB
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 1:30pm
Painful dissection of whether Beto's life has been sufficiently punk: https://theslot.jezebel.com/is-beto-a-p ... 1833288379

Even tho it's clearly a fluffy piece, the whole This is Punk and That's Not Punk categorization is wincing.
It makes me feel better though that she's a woman of color. I thought it was pretty funny, but I took exception to her slam on Big Star.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 1:48pm
by Dr. Medulla
JennyB wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 1:41pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 1:30pm
Painful dissection of whether Beto's life has been sufficiently punk: https://theslot.jezebel.com/is-beto-a-p ... 1833288379

Even tho it's clearly a fluffy piece, the whole This is Punk and That's Not Punk categorization is wincing.
It makes me feel better though that she's a woman of color. I thought it was pretty funny, but I took exception to her slam on Big Star.
Stuff like his commitment in college to body improvement not being punk—plenty of hardcore scenes emphasize strength and body purity. And punks don't like capitalism? Punks may talk a good game and genuinely loathe corporate capitalism, but, yeah, very few actually hate capitalism.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 1:52pm
by JennyB
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 1:48pm
JennyB wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 1:41pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 1:30pm
Painful dissection of whether Beto's life has been sufficiently punk: https://theslot.jezebel.com/is-beto-a-p ... 1833288379

Even tho it's clearly a fluffy piece, the whole This is Punk and That's Not Punk categorization is wincing.
It makes me feel better though that she's a woman of color. I thought it was pretty funny, but I took exception to her slam on Big Star.
Stuff like his commitment in college to body improvement not being punk—plenty of hardcore scenes emphasize strength and body purity. And punks don't like capitalism? Punks may talk a good game and genuinely loathe corporate capitalism, but, yeah, very few actually hate capitalism.
Oh, it was stupid, but it made me chuckle.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 2:46pm
by Silent Majority
Beto could get those sweet John Kerry numbers for sure.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 2:51pm
by Wolter
Silent Majority wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 2:46pm
Beto could get those sweet John Kerry numbers for sure.
I think of him as a John Edwards who is even more vague.


He’s a cipher for centrists to put whatever hopes and dreams they have into.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 3:08pm
by Dr. Medulla
Wolter wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 2:51pm
Silent Majority wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 2:46pm
Beto could get those sweet John Kerry numbers for sure.
I think of him as a John Edwards who is even more vague.


He’s a cipher for centrists to put whatever hopes and dreams they have into.
I can see him topping every candidate's VP list for those very reasons. Young, personable, ideologically mishmosh-y. A Bernie/Beto ticket would thrill a lot of focus-group politics sorts.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 3:17pm
by Wolter
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 3:08pm
Wolter wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 2:51pm
Silent Majority wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 2:46pm
Beto could get those sweet John Kerry numbers for sure.
I think of him as a John Edwards who is even more vague.


He’s a cipher for centrists to put whatever hopes and dreams they have into.
I can see him topping every candidate's VP list for those very reasons. Young, personable, ideologically mishmosh-y. A Bernie/Beto ticket would thrill a lot of focus-group politics sorts.
He’s definitely got VP potential. I do think he would do better for the Dems by staying in Texas and trying to unseat Cornyn, but ego is as ego does.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 7:17pm
by Flex

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 8:36pm
by Dr. Medulla


Well, Clinton was also an imperialist corporate liberal who managed to lose to a semi-literate fascist chimp. Rather than spin her as a victim, grant her the respect of being the incompetent monster who was a wretched enough candidate that made Trump a viable candidate.

Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Posted: 14 Mar 2019, 8:57pm
by Flex
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 8:36pm
Well, Clinton was also an imperialist corporate liberal who managed to lose to a semi-literate fascist chimp. Rather than spin her as a victim, grant her the respect of being the incompetent monster who was a wretched enough candidate that made Trump a viable candidate.
Also, people forget she ran for president in 2008 and also lost. It's not like Chillary didn't get multiple shots to grab the brass ring.