Had Maggie come to power in a post-Thatcher world, she would have been far worse. She was limited by a population who expected a welfare state and was several times halted from doing the terrible thing she wanted to because the public wouldn't accept it. Today, the UK's been taught it's only proper to get killed by the market.
Yep sadly all the above is very true.
"No such thing as society" said Maggie qouting Freidrich Hayek. Sure it's only part of the full spiel she gave to Woman's Realm magazine back then. But if no society and only individual men and women and families then who exactly are you making policies for? Do you make a political decision based on the individuals needs or the needs of the masses.
Rod Stewart got one thing correct. "Oh Maggie I wish I'd never seen your face".
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
What does this mean? They think there's a genuine possibility of an insurrection if there's a no-deal result?
Don’t think they’re actually expecting social upheaval - though may well be preparing for it at same time - but think army is needed to help with distribution in likely event of food/medical shortages etc if no deal.
What does this mean? They think there's a genuine possibility of an insurrection if there's a no-deal result?
Don’t think they’re actually expecting social upheaval - though may well be preparing for it at same time - but think army is needed to help with distribution in likely event of food/medical shortages etc if no deal.
The thing about Brexit that kind of confuses me is that The Powers That Be have never shied away from employing state power to maintain their advantage and the stability of a system that benefits them. And yet, this artificial crisis, carried by a faux populism, suddenly has the political agents of capital acting like they have no choice but to carry thru with democracy? Maybe they think they can really gut the social compact with a massive crisis, but, man, what a crazy roll of the dice that it doesn't spin out of control into a socialist revolt. That's what I don't get—why do the forces of the status quo allow this to happen, why don't they instruct May to figure out a way to undo the referendum?
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
What does this mean? They think there's a genuine possibility of an insurrection if there's a no-deal result?
Don’t think they’re actually expecting social upheaval - though may well be preparing for it at same time - but think army is needed to help with distribution in likely event of food/medical shortages etc if no deal.
The thing about Brexit that kind of confuses me is that The Powers That Be have never shied away from employing state power to maintain their advantage and the stability of a system that benefits them. And yet, this artificial crisis, carried by a faux populism, suddenly has the political agents of capital acting like they have no choice but to carry thru with democracy? Maybe they think they can really gut the social compact with a massive crisis, but, man, what a crazy roll of the dice that it doesn't spin out of control into a socialist revolt. That's what I don't get—why do the forces of the status quo allow this to happen, why don't they instruct May to figure out a way to undo the referendum?
Very hard to say, but from tuning in to the daily shitshow for the past while I’m not entirely convinced we should assume any rational strategy at all from those self same powers that be. The PM, as has been pointed out, is a committed remainer - she will do whatever it takes to REMAIN in office. The opposition are useless, Corbyn is weak and tepid on the whole business and within that vacuum of leadership other forces have moved in to steer the ship straight for the massive looming iceberg. They are being hobbled by 10 MPs (out of a total of 650) from a reactionary irish party whose basic raison d’etre for 100 years has been to say NO to almost any question asked of them. Hobbled too by a First Past the Post political system that ensures the two main parties keep the whole thing sewn up between them and there’s no possibility of achieving consensus on difficult issues like this one. It’s a perfect storm of events I think and their only hope of salvage, I believe, is that the EU sorts out the mess for them because Theresa May sure as hell cant.
As for the leaders and captains of industry they have been found wanting on this. The trade unions and business federations have been talking in crisis mode this week, but it’s weeks and months too late. Not that it was easy to get the message through as it was merely drowned out by the Project Fear cries from the other side. People just gonna hear what they wanna hear sometimes.
Even tho the past is littered with examples of people willingly marching off a cliff for no goddamned good reason—the First World War, for example, especially once it became clear that it wouldn't be over in a few glorious months and was just an exercise in depopulation—it's just astounding that the power of politics and economics is so totally dysfunctional as to not simply call a halt to a catastrophe. I mean, I've answered my own question, but the seeming eagerness to prefer collective ruin to political defeat really does belie any kind of rationalism at work. At this point, no rational pro-Leave person can see a win that isn't accompanied by serious self-injury, yet they proceed anyway because they must.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
When people voted Leave in 2016 they weren’t expressly voting to quit the EU without a deal. Essentially what they were voting for didn’t actually exist, as we all know, but that’s another story. I think apart from a few right wing loons and the odd shit stirrer, nobody in parliament wants no deal and they all know it would be a disaster but it’s simply the default outcome of a long drawn out, totally dysfunctional process, a runaway train nobody knows how to stop. They actually voted to rule out no deal in parliament last week but that vote, like so much else in this sorry affair, was a blunt instrument. That just tells you how powerless they are really.
