Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election
Posted: 05 Nov 2014, 2:07pm
I think this is a lot of why folks aren't on board with the "better economy" narrative:
Which is more likely, that this is finally the generation where democracy falters because of... malaise? The crappiness of people? Or that Americans in general, with the young in particular, are completely disengaged from the process because of a flaw in the process itself?Spiff wrote:Oh, plenty. Health care reform, a growing economy, minimum wage increases, student loan reforms, to name a few.Silent Majority wrote:How much had the Democrats really offered the youth or anyone at all over the last six years?Spiff wrote:Oh ... and FUCK YOU, young people!
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But then the spineless Dems couldn't find it within themselves to actually tout these accomplishments because they were afraid that by doing so they would turn off the moderate voters they were courting.
And so I also say FUCK YOU to at all the Dems who ran away from President Obama and did nothing to motivate their base, which, as anyone with two brain cells knows IS CRITICAL TO WINNING MID-TERM ELECTIONS!
Oh, sorry, it's clipped off. Blue is bottom 90% of households and red is top 10%. The full article: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/201 ... chart.htmlDr. Medulla wrote:I can't tell what the blue and red bars represent.
That settles it: I'm going to sign up for that 10% group. They seem to have things figured out.Flex wrote:Oh, sorry, it's clipped off. Blue is bottom 90% of households and red is top 10%. The full article: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/201 ... chart.htmlDr. Medulla wrote:I can't tell what the blue and red bars represent.
The process is fucked up, yes, but not FUBAR. And the solution is to try to fix it, and voting is part of the way to fix it.Silent Majority wrote:Which is more likely, that this is finally the generation where democracy falters because of... malaise? The crappiness of people? Or that Americans in general, with the young in particular, are completely disengaged from the process because of a flaw in the process itself?Spiff wrote:Oh, plenty. Health care reform, a growing economy, minimum wage increases, student loan reforms, to name a few.Silent Majority wrote:How much had the Democrats really offered the youth or anyone at all over the last six years?Spiff wrote:Oh ... and FUCK YOU, young people!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/e ... torate-old
But then the spineless Dems couldn't find it within themselves to actually tout these accomplishments because they were afraid that by doing so they would turn off the moderate voters they were courting.
And so I also say FUCK YOU to at all the Dems who ran away from President Obama and did nothing to motivate their base, which, as anyone with two brain cells knows IS CRITICAL TO WINNING MID-TERM ELECTIONS!
It's the disengagement stage of whatever seven-step process we're in the middle of at realizing how fucked it is. It's tempting to just write it off as FUBAR, but the country went through this in the Gilded Age too and the pendulum swung back. This is the same thing...multiple decades of stagnation and cannibalizing the middle-class until people just wouldn't put up with that shit anymore. I don't buy this "end of Empire" thing. Empire sucks. Empire is murder. What was the standard of living for the working place at the absolute tippy-top of the British Empire? Not very good, eh, Vince and Morrissey? So why does anyone lament the loss of empire? It's a bug not a feature.Silent Majority wrote:Which is more likely, that this is finally the generation where democracy falters because of... malaise? The crappiness of people? Or that Americans in general, with the young in particular, are completely disengaged from the process because of a flaw in the process itself?Spiff wrote:Oh, plenty. Health care reform, a growing economy, minimum wage increases, student loan reforms, to name a few.Silent Majority wrote:How much had the Democrats really offered the youth or anyone at all over the last six years?Spiff wrote:Oh ... and FUCK YOU, young people!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/e ... torate-old
But then the spineless Dems couldn't find it within themselves to actually tout these accomplishments because they were afraid that by doing so they would turn off the moderate voters they were courting.
And so I also say FUCK YOU to at all the Dems who ran away from President Obama and did nothing to motivate their base, which, as anyone with two brain cells knows IS CRITICAL TO WINNING MID-TERM ELECTIONS!
In all honesty, to paraphrase Jello Biafra, if the choice is essentially between two moose diarrhea salesmen, how rewarding is it to drag yourself to the polls to vote for the one who is less racist?eumaas wrote:I wonder if some young people are just tired of voting against in every election.
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/201 ... evils.htmlWolter wrote:In all honesty, to paraphrase Jello Biafra, if the choice is essentially between two moose diarrhea salesmen, how rewarding is it to drag yourself to the polls to vote for the one who is less racist?eumaas wrote:I wonder if some young people are just tired of voting against in every election.
tepista wrote: