NEW JOE STRUMMER ANTHOLOGY?

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101Walterton wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:53pm
Heston wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:49pm
matedog wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:35pm
Just relistened to Leopardskin. Not getting much out of it. Am I missing something?
No, I think it's pretty unmemorable.

Can't believe he gave the album an 8/10.
Agreed. I am one of the 7,000 who bought on release with great fanfare at Tower records. I wouldn’t give it 8/10 and why go with Rude Your Donkey ( never liked it) over one of Joe’s songs?
I'd put it as the third best song on the album, but I'm probably not in the majority on that opinion.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 2:09pm
Silent Majority wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 1:49pm
Nice one, mate. Thanks for sharing that. No wonder Luce has avoided the public eye for these years, avoiding pseudo wankers like the reviewer and his penny-dreadful psychoanalysing.
Yep he comes across as a complete hatchet man. That said Luce comes across great with her answers.
She really does.
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matedog wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 4:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:53pm
Heston wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:49pm
matedog wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:35pm
Just relistened to Leopardskin. Not getting much out of it. Am I missing something?
No, I think it's pretty unmemorable.

Can't believe he gave the album an 8/10.
Agreed. I am one of the 7,000 who bought on release with great fanfare at Tower records. I wouldn’t give it 8/10 and why go with Rude Your Donkey ( never liked it) over one of Joe’s songs?
I'd put it as the third best song on the album, but I'm probably not in the majority on that opinion.
It’s top 4 for me, behind Island Hopping, Dizzys Goatee and Sikorsky Parts. On the cassette version when you flipped over after IH it brought you almost exactly to the start of RYD which I thought was pretty neat in the pre-shuffle days.

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matedog wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 4:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:53pm
Heston wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:49pm
matedog wrote:
16 Aug 2018, 3:35pm
Just relistened to Leopardskin. Not getting much out of it. Am I missing something?
No, I think it's pretty unmemorable.

Can't believe he gave the album an 8/10.
Agreed. I am one of the 7,000 who bought on release with great fanfare at Tower records. I wouldn’t give it 8/10 and why go with Rude Your Donkey ( never liked it) over one of Joe’s songs?
I'd put it as the third best song on the album, but I'm probably not in the majority on that opinion.
I'm with you bro, at least there's some melody there. I'd only put Shouting Street, Island Hopping and Sleepwalk above it.
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Clips of unreleased songs...

There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 7:26am
Clips of unreleased songs...

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Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 7:26am
Clips of unreleased songs...

Nice!
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Cool stuff. That Czechoslovak This Is England is weird. I'm curious about the timeline on that one because I don't think there are any live versions with those lyrics.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 9:58am
Cool stuff. That Czechoslovak This Is England is weird. I'm curious about the timeline on that one because I don't think there are any live versions with those lyrics.
Aug 1983 according to this...

https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/new-joe-st ... cks-106184

Mick was either AWOL or had just been booted out.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 10:13am
matedog wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 9:58am
Cool stuff. That Czechoslovak This Is England is weird. I'm curious about the timeline on that one because I don't think there are any live versions with those lyrics.
Aug 1983 according to this...

https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/new-joe-st ... cks-106184

Mick was either AWOL or had just been booted out.
I like the "where is England" line as opposed to "This Is England". Cool to have.
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Marky Dread wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 10:23am
Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 10:13am
matedog wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 9:58am
Cool stuff. That Czechoslovak This Is England is weird. I'm curious about the timeline on that one because I don't think there are any live versions with those lyrics.
Aug 1983 according to this...

https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/new-joe-st ... cks-106184

Mick was either AWOL or had just been booted out.
I like the "where is England" line as opposed to "This Is England". Cool to have.
Real drums is the real bonus!
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 10:25am
Marky Dread wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 10:23am
Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 10:13am
matedog wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 9:58am
Cool stuff. That Czechoslovak This Is England is weird. I'm curious about the timeline on that one because I don't think there are any live versions with those lyrics.
Aug 1983 according to this...

https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/new-joe-st ... cks-106184

Mick was either AWOL or had just been booted out.
I like the "where is England" line as opposed to "This Is England". Cool to have.
Real drums is the real bonus!
On any song by any band anytime.
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 10:13am
matedog wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 9:58am
Cool stuff. That Czechoslovak This Is England is weird. I'm curious about the timeline on that one because I don't think there are any live versions with those lyrics.
Aug 1983 according to this...

https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/new-joe-st ... cks-106184

Mick was either AWOL or had just been booted out.
Nick's not listed, which I guess makes sense given the timeline, though he's also not listed on the other This Is England demo from 84. Crazy to think there was probably some overlap of Joe writing TIE and Mick still being in the band.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Heston wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 7:26am
Clips of unreleased songs...

Awesome. Happy Birthday, Joe.

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