Marky Dread Remasters

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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:15pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:59pm
I must catch up with these remasters, just trying to find the time. I know some people like FLAC but it is a bit of a pain in the arse for me, my converter takes ages. Definitely gonna make the effort though, can't beat the Marky magic dust.
What do you convert to?
Mp3 320, for ease of putting on cd, phone etc.
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WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:07pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:57pm
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:39pm
Vince is definitely a character. I've never had the chance to read his book. Is the story about him shagging Bernie's girlfriend in a parking lot true - or just a rock legend. I like to think it was true, ha ha!
His book is a good read but is definitely exaggerated.
Curious to know all of your thoughts on his claim that Paul only played bass on the first album. I know Norman Watt-Roy filled in at least on Sandinista - but thought that was a scheduling thing. Also - I believe Vince claims Paul's bass amp was always turned way down on stage.
It begs the question why Paul was sent upstairs by Sandy Pearlman in rehearsals to learn the GEER songs.
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WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:07pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:57pm
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:39pm
Vince is definitely a character. I've never had the chance to read his book. Is the story about him shagging Bernie's girlfriend in a parking lot true - or just a rock legend. I like to think it was true, ha ha!
His book is a good read but is definitely exaggerated.
Curious to know all of your thoughts on his claim that Paul only played bass on the first album. I know Norman Watt-Roy filled in at least on Sandinista - but thought that was a scheduling thing. Also - I believe Vince claims Paul's bass amp was always turned way down on stage.
A thread here from a few years back discussing what Paul may/may not have played...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9979&p=396193&hilit=paul#p396193
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matedog wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:47pm
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:39pm
matedog wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 11:16am
Heston wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 1:33pm
Great sound on the Espace remaster Marky, but by god, there's some horrible guitar on there. Not sure who is playing the solo on White Man and I Fought the Law, but it was abysmal.
Oof, just gave those a listen. I'd like to blame Vince, but who knows?
Yeah, I also just gave this one a spin. Some of the playing is rough. The guitar playing in general isn't great...but then you're going from Mick/Joe to Vince & Nick and Bernie just took these kids who had never played in a large venue and just chucked them out there. It was just a mess from beginning to end - poorly thought out and poorly carried out. I do think they got better as time went on - but it was just never going to work.

Vince is definitely a character. I've never had the chance to read his book. Is the story about him shagging Bernie's girlfriend in a parking lot true - or just a rock legend. I like to think it was true, ha ha!
Well don't forget Pete was already a Clash member while Mick was still in the band. Nick Sheppard had been the guitarist in punk band The Cortinas so the only real novice of sorts was Vince.
Right and it comes through in their playing. Vince cops to it as well in his book. Nick's playing and singing is generally tight as is Pete's. Vince is usually mixed really low, though he claims he did get some solos, usually the more languid (ie easy) solos. I think if the rhythm guitar is still prominent, chances are Vince is soloing. Haven't review it too much though.
I believe Nick generally played low-end and chordal leads/solos, Vince played the other stuff. That particular White Man doesn't sound great, but they were pretty good most of the time. Check out Mag 7 from St. Louis 1984. 😍😍😍

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WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:07pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:57pm
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:39pm
Vince is definitely a character. I've never had the chance to read his book. Is the story about him shagging Bernie's girlfriend in a parking lot true - or just a rock legend. I like to think it was true, ha ha!
His book is a good read but is definitely exaggerated.
Curious to know all of your thoughts on his claim that Paul only played bass on the first album. I know Norman Watt-Roy filled in at least on Sandinista - but thought that was a scheduling thing. Also - I believe Vince claims Paul's bass amp was always turned way down on stage.
I'll eat hay with a donkey if Paul played that bassline on White Riot. Even Wyatt struggles with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q57ECoHNFc

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white man wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 5:10am
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:07pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:57pm
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:39pm
Vince is definitely a character. I've never had the chance to read his book. Is the story about him shagging Bernie's girlfriend in a parking lot true - or just a rock legend. I like to think it was true, ha ha!
His book is a good read but is definitely exaggerated.
Curious to know all of your thoughts on his claim that Paul only played bass on the first album. I know Norman Watt-Roy filled in at least on Sandinista - but thought that was a scheduling thing. Also - I believe Vince claims Paul's bass amp was always turned way down on stage.
I'll eat hay with a donkey if Paul played that bassline on White Riot. Even Wyatt struggles with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q57ECoHNFc
I'm now hooked watching Wyatt's videos! He does a pretty good job on White Riot - but wow - when you actually watch someone playing it you realize how difficult the bass part is - so many moving parts go into it.

That said, if Paul didn't play on White Riot - who did? Mick?
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WestwayKid wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 8:39am
white man wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 5:10am
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:07pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:57pm
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:39pm
Vince is definitely a character. I've never had the chance to read his book. Is the story about him shagging Bernie's girlfriend in a parking lot true - or just a rock legend. I like to think it was true, ha ha!
His book is a good read but is definitely exaggerated.
Curious to know all of your thoughts on his claim that Paul only played bass on the first album. I know Norman Watt-Roy filled in at least on Sandinista - but thought that was a scheduling thing. Also - I believe Vince claims Paul's bass amp was always turned way down on stage.
I'll eat hay with a donkey if Paul played that bassline on White Riot. Even Wyatt struggles with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q57ECoHNFc
I'm now hooked watching Wyatt's videos! He does a pretty good job on White Riot - but wow - when you actually watch someone playing it you realize how difficult the bass part is - so many moving parts go into it.

That said, if Paul didn't play on White Riot - who did? Mick?
Probably. Certainly wasn't Wyatt cos he'd have mastered the bastard by now.

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WestwayKid wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 8:39am
white man wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 5:10am
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:07pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:57pm
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 1:39pm
Vince is definitely a character. I've never had the chance to read his book. Is the story about him shagging Bernie's girlfriend in a parking lot true - or just a rock legend. I like to think it was true, ha ha!
His book is a good read but is definitely exaggerated.
Curious to know all of your thoughts on his claim that Paul only played bass on the first album. I know Norman Watt-Roy filled in at least on Sandinista - but thought that was a scheduling thing. Also - I believe Vince claims Paul's bass amp was always turned way down on stage.
I'll eat hay with a donkey if Paul played that bassline on White Riot. Even Wyatt struggles with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q57ECoHNFc
I'm now hooked watching Wyatt's videos! He does a pretty good job on White Riot - but wow - when you actually watch someone playing it you realize how difficult the bass part is - so many moving parts go into it.

That said, if Paul didn't play on White Riot - who did? Mick?
Yeah wow. I knew some of the off beat stuff in the chorus, but that bass line really moves around a ton throughout.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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So....is that confirmation Vince was lying?
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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matedog wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:27am
WestwayKid wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 8:39am
white man wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 5:10am
WestwayKid wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 4:07pm
Heston wrote:
16 Oct 2017, 2:57pm


His book is a good read but is definitely exaggerated.
Curious to know all of your thoughts on his claim that Paul only played bass on the first album. I know Norman Watt-Roy filled in at least on Sandinista - but thought that was a scheduling thing. Also - I believe Vince claims Paul's bass amp was always turned way down on stage.
I'll eat hay with a donkey if Paul played that bassline on White Riot. Even Wyatt struggles with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q57ECoHNFc
I'm now hooked watching Wyatt's videos! He does a pretty good job on White Riot - but wow - when you actually watch someone playing it you realize how difficult the bass part is - so many moving parts go into it.

That said, if Paul didn't play on White Riot - who did? Mick?
Yeah wow. I knew some of the off beat stuff in the chorus, but that bass line really moves around a ton throughout.
He's got several Clash bass and guitar videos. Wow. Fascinating to watch someone just play the parts. Another fun one to watch is "Down in the Tube Station" - he even gets the Bruce Foxton jump in there.

What is interesting is we've heard for so long how punk musicians were not musicians. We all know that is not true - but watching these clips really helps underscore how good these guys were - inventive, creative - highly skilled.
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Heston wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:29am
So....is that confirmation Vince was lying?
I'm not going to ask him! ;)

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You do all realize that Mick played guitar and bass at the same time when The Clash performed live. Seriously Paul plays bass on White Riot.

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WestwayKid wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:32am
Heston wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:29am
So....is that confirmation Vince was lying?
I'm not going to ask him! ;)

I value my life too much! :mrgreen:
I would ask him no problem. If he treatened me I would simply knock him the fuck out.
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WestwayKid wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:32am
Heston wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:29am
So....is that confirmation Vince was lying?
I'm not going to ask him! ;)

I value my life too much! :mrgreen:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:46am
WestwayKid wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:32am
Heston wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:29am
So....is that confirmation Vince was lying?
I'm not going to ask him! ;)

I value my life too much! :mrgreen:
Don't worry, I got this. He and I have a thing.
Throat slitting lovers.
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