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Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 11 Jan 2018, 7:10pm
by WestwayKid
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 7:06pm
WestwayKid wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:52pm
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:07pm
One epiphany I had from Route 19 was that Mick didn't write a lot of lyrics. Confirmed are: Janie Jones, 1, 2 Crush On You, Complete Control, Stay Free, Train in Vain, SISOSIG. A lot of Mick vocals are Joe lyrics which makes sense because the lyricist for Card Cheat certainly wasn't the same lyricist for BAD's catalog.
That is very interesting, but makes sense. Not to take anything away from Mick. Just that Joe was the lyric guy and Mick was the music guy. Both amongst the very best at what they did. I could envision times where Joe could pick up something from Mick’s life...Stay Free, for instance...and put it into words. Almost like Joe was an interpreter for Mick and a lot of other people. Just a great team: one guy could write killer words and the other guy could write killer music. I love ‘em both.
Sorry, I meant confirmed lyrics that Mick did write those songs I listed (Stay Free, for example). But Lost in the Supermarket, etc. are Joe lyrics.
Ahh! That makes sense. Curious to know about I’m Not Down. That has to be a Mick lyric.
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 11 Jan 2018, 7:39pm
by Heston
No one can live with Joe but I thought Mick did a helluva job on This Is BAD with the lyrics. I know Don wrote the E=MC2 lyric, but he admits to being Mick's lyrical apprentice around this time so Mick must have weighed in with quite a few. Whatever, they made a decent fist of it between them.
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 12:37am
by muppet hi fi
Heston wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 7:39pm
No one can live with Joe but I thought Mick did a helluva job on This Is BAD with the lyrics. I know Don wrote the E=MC2 lyric, but he admits to being Mick's lyrical apprentice around this time so Mick must have weighed in with quite a few. Whatever, they made a decent fist of it between them.
Yep. I was just going to post about the lyrics on This Is BAD, mate. Every song is genius. Check out "A Party", folks (Don may or may not have contributed lyrically). Mick could certainly hold his own in the lyrics department. Still can (just listened to Carbon/Silicon's 'Last Post' with the b-sides; the man's in a league of his own as far as writing, and, yeah -lyrics too).
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 12:42am
by Kory
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 7:06pm
WestwayKid wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:52pm
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:07pm
One epiphany I had from Route 19 was that Mick didn't write a lot of lyrics. Confirmed are: Janie Jones, 1, 2 Crush On You, Complete Control, Stay Free, Train in Vain, SISOSIG. A lot of Mick vocals are Joe lyrics which makes sense because the lyricist for Card Cheat certainly wasn't the same lyricist for BAD's catalog.
That is very interesting, but makes sense. Not to take anything away from Mick. Just that Joe was the lyric guy and Mick was the music guy. Both amongst the very best at what they did. I could envision times where Joe could pick up something from Mick’s life...Stay Free, for instance...and put it into words. Almost like Joe was an interpreter for Mick and a lot of other people. Just a great team: one guy could write killer words and the other guy could write killer music. I love ‘em both.
Sorry, I meant confirmed lyrics that Mick did write those songs I listed (Stay Free, for example). But Lost in the Supermarket, etc. are Joe lyrics.
What's the word on SGM? I always thought that was a Mick'er but now I'm not sure.
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 4:06am
by Heston
Kory wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 12:42am
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 7:06pm
WestwayKid wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:52pm
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:07pm
One epiphany I had from Route 19 was that Mick didn't write a lot of lyrics. Confirmed are: Janie Jones, 1, 2 Crush On You, Complete Control, Stay Free, Train in Vain, SISOSIG. A lot of Mick vocals are Joe lyrics which makes sense because the lyricist for Card Cheat certainly wasn't the same lyricist for BAD's catalog.
That is very interesting, but makes sense. Not to take anything away from Mick. Just that Joe was the lyric guy and Mick was the music guy. Both amongst the very best at what they did. I could envision times where Joe could pick up something from Mick’s life...Stay Free, for instance...and put it into words. Almost like Joe was an interpreter for Mick and a lot of other people. Just a great team: one guy could write killer words and the other guy could write killer music. I love ‘em both.
Sorry, I meant confirmed lyrics that Mick did write those songs I listed (Stay Free, for example). But Lost in the Supermarket, etc. are Joe lyrics.
What's the word on SGM? I always thought that was a Mick'er but now I'm not sure.
Joe.
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 10:54am
by matedog
WestwayKid wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 7:10pm
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 7:06pm
WestwayKid wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:52pm
matedog wrote: ↑11 Jan 2018, 6:07pm
One epiphany I had from Route 19 was that Mick didn't write a lot of lyrics. Confirmed are: Janie Jones, 1, 2 Crush On You, Complete Control, Stay Free, Train in Vain, SISOSIG. A lot of Mick vocals are Joe lyrics which makes sense because the lyricist for Card Cheat certainly wasn't the same lyricist for BAD's catalog.
That is very interesting, but makes sense. Not to take anything away from Mick. Just that Joe was the lyric guy and Mick was the music guy. Both amongst the very best at what they did. I could envision times where Joe could pick up something from Mick’s life...Stay Free, for instance...and put it into words. Almost like Joe was an interpreter for Mick and a lot of other people. Just a great team: one guy could write killer words and the other guy could write killer music. I love ‘em both.
Sorry, I meant confirmed lyrics that Mick did write those songs I listed (Stay Free, for example). But Lost in the Supermarket, etc. are Joe lyrics.
Ahh! That makes sense. Curious to know about I’m Not Down. That has to be a Mick lyric.
Joe per Route 19 which cites handwritten lyrics in Joe's handwriting with revisions.
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 3:05pm
by Low Down Low
What about Mick? Any Mick-less Clash tracks there or is such a thing even conceivable? Lose This Skin perhaps?
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 3:06pm
by Silent Majority
Low Down Low wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 3:05pm
What about Mick? Any Mick-less Clash tracks there or is such a thing even conceivable? Lose This Skin perhaps?
Red Angel Dragnet?
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 3:19pm
by Heston
Low Down Low wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 3:05pm
What about Mick? Any Mick-less Clash tracks there or is such a thing even conceivable? Lose This Skin perhaps?
All of Cut the Crap.
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 3:39pm
by Dr. Medulla
Heston wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 3:19pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 3:05pm
What about Mick? Any Mick-less Clash tracks there or is such a thing even conceivable? Lose This Skin perhaps?
All of Cut the Crap.
Don't shoot the messenger, but it just proves they were better off without him.
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 4:19pm
by daredevil
Pretty sure Stop The World is just Joe and Topper
Re: Any tracks Joe did NOT play on?
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 5:17pm
by Kory
Silent Majority wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 3:06pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 3:05pm
What about Mick? Any Mick-less Clash tracks there or is such a thing even conceivable? Lose This Skin perhaps?
Red Angel Dragnet?
Eh?