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Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 3:15pm
by laxman
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
Not a question he gets asked every day!

Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 3:58pm
by Kory
laxman wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:15pm
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
Not a question he gets asked every day!
Good, it will stand out and he will answer.

Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 3:59pm
by WestwayKid
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
I'd like to think Joe would be ok with an official release of this for archival purposes. God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
I think he'd be okay with it. If he had truly fallen out with Mick and it had turned into one of those really bitter rock feuds - maybe not - but it didn't take them very long to mend faces and become friends again. I think Joe understood the importance of the band in the context of music history.

Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 5:06pm
by Marky Dread
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:59pm
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
I'd like to think Joe would be ok with an official release of this for archival purposes. God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
I think he'd be okay with it. If he had truly fallen out with Mick and it had turned into one of those really bitter rock feuds - maybe not - but it didn't take them very long to mend faces and become friends again. I think Joe understood the importance of the band in the context of music history.
Sure thing. However Mick holds the opinion that as Joe is not here to give it his blessing so it stays unreleased at the present time.

Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 5:11pm
by Heston
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 5:06pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:59pm
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
I'd like to think Joe would be ok with an official release of this for archival purposes. God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
I think he'd be okay with it. If he had truly fallen out with Mick and it had turned into one of those really bitter rock feuds - maybe not - but it didn't take them very long to mend faces and become friends again. I think Joe understood the importance of the band in the context of music history.
Sure thing. However Mick holds the opinion that as Joe is not here to give it his blessing so it stays unreleased at the present time.
There is a school of thought that would say Joe wasn't around to give his blessings to the Vanilla Tapes, but they still got released. It's a strange one because the tape is out there anyway, it would just be an upgrade in quality. And don't forget that 5 songs from it have been officially released already. So I don't really buy Mick' s reasoning.

Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 6:10pm
by WestwayKid
Heston wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 5:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 5:06pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:59pm
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
I'd like to think Joe would be ok with an official release of this for archival purposes. God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
I think he'd be okay with it. If he had truly fallen out with Mick and it had turned into one of those really bitter rock feuds - maybe not - but it didn't take them very long to mend faces and become friends again. I think Joe understood the importance of the band in the context of music history.
Sure thing. However Mick holds the opinion that as Joe is not here to give it his blessing so it stays unreleased at the present time.
There is a school of thought that would say Joe wasn't around to give his blessings to the Vanilla Tapes, but they still got released. It's a strange one because the tape is out there anyway, it would just be an upgrade in quality. And don't forget that 5 songs from it have been officially released already. So I don't really buy Mick' s reasoning.
Does it come down to the fact (for Mick) that there was some contention regarding the release of the original album? The decision was made in 1982 to not go with Mick's version. Yes, individual tracks have been released - but they have not been released as a full alternate album.

Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 6:23pm
by Marky Dread
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 6:10pm
Heston wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 5:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 5:06pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:59pm
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
I'd like to think Joe would be ok with an official release of this for archival purposes. God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
I think he'd be okay with it. If he had truly fallen out with Mick and it had turned into one of those really bitter rock feuds - maybe not - but it didn't take them very long to mend faces and become friends again. I think Joe understood the importance of the band in the context of music history.
Sure thing. However Mick holds the opinion that as Joe is not here to give it his blessing so it stays unreleased at the present time.
There is a school of thought that would say Joe wasn't around to give his blessings to the Vanilla Tapes, but they still got released. It's a strange one because the tape is out there anyway, it would just be an upgrade in quality. And don't forget that 5 songs from it have been officially released already. So I don't really buy Mick' s reasoning.
Does it come down to the fact (for Mick) that there was some contention regarding the release of the original album? The decision was made in 1982 to not go with Mick's version. Yes, individual tracks have been released - but they have not been released as a full alternate album.
Yes this is correct.

Re: Restored Clash poster

Posted: 04 Mar 2019, 6:30pm
by Heston
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 6:10pm
Heston wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 5:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 5:06pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:59pm
Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:05pm
I'd like to think Joe would be ok with an official release of this for archival purposes. God, why oh why can't I have a real Rat Patrol
I think he'd be okay with it. If he had truly fallen out with Mick and it had turned into one of those really bitter rock feuds - maybe not - but it didn't take them very long to mend faces and become friends again. I think Joe understood the importance of the band in the context of music history.
Sure thing. However Mick holds the opinion that as Joe is not here to give it his blessing so it stays unreleased at the present time.
There is a school of thought that would say Joe wasn't around to give his blessings to the Vanilla Tapes, but they still got released. It's a strange one because the tape is out there anyway, it would just be an upgrade in quality. And don't forget that 5 songs from it have been officially released already. So I don't really buy Mick' s reasoning.
Does it come down to the fact (for Mick) that there was some contention regarding the release of the original album? The decision was made in 1982 to not go with Mick's version. Yes, individual tracks have been released - but they have not been released as a full alternate album.
Yes, but it just seems a bit trivial to me. It's just an alternate mix of an album that is already heavily bootlegged.

I wish Mick (or someone in the Clash camp) had more interest in the back catalogue and put some good expanded versions of the albums out like The Jam and XTC have.