Not for the first time this week.Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:09pmHeston is the winner.Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:08pmFor me it's the bit after "how can I even try to go on." The riff starts on the word, "on."101Walterton wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:03pmI always presumed it was the descending notes in the chorus?
City of the Dead was the B-side to Complete Control (the 2nd Clash anthem)Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 8:48pmWell some truth at last but in 1964 there were around 350 registered Heroin addicts in the UK.Aeneas wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 7:59pmClearly, Strummer had trouble keeping his own drummer Topper HeadonMarky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:49amSounds like you are making up your own theory.
Heroin wasn't destroying Strummer's friends. Their own stupidity did that and Joe singing about Heroin killing his friends in 1976 is stupid talk how many of Joe's squatting community do you think could afford a bag of Heroin? Sure the Heartbreakers famously took Heroin but they were not to blame for the likes of Sid taking it as he had taken it even before he joined the Pistols and met Thunders etc. So I wonder exactly who you think these friends were Joe was allegedly singing about?
The UK drug of choice for the punks and soul boys was Speed because it was cheap (affordable) and served it purpose for all-nighters.
You changing the ad-libs to suit your own narrative/conspiracy doesn't make it right.
Should change the name of the song back to it's original title "I'm So Bored with You".
Not in 1976 he didn't when the song in question was written and Terry was the drummer. Fail.
from the heroin needle, and eventually was forced to fire him.
Certainly, backstage when Sid Vicious was holding court as a solo act
in NYC in late 1978/early 1979 with several members of the New York Dolls
must have been a blast -- Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan (drummer) were
definitely heroin addicts, in a place, NYC, where it has always been
extremely easy to 'score' or 'cop' heroin.
How did Joe write about these events in "I'm So Bored with the USA" when they occured after 1976?
=============City of the Dead==================
In the city of the dead
Fall in love an' fall in bed
It wasn't anything you said
Except I know we both lie dead
Don't you know where to cop
That's what New York Johnny said
You should get to know your town
Just like I know mine
=============================================
Johnny telling Joe that it's best to know where to score and where can he get gear in the UK. Joe took Heroin once it's alleged and covered it up with a hepatitis scare which was claimed he got from swallowing some gob.
From what I have read, there was a "British System" within
the UK health system in the late 60's/early 70's to prescribe heroin
to people who their psychiatrists thought needed the drug,
through Drug Dependency Units (DDU) established by the Ministry of Health.
Thus it appears the UK Parliament was the one importing much of the
Golden Crescent opium directly.
The winner takes it all.Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:11pmNot for the first time this week.Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:09pmHeston is the winner.Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:08pmFor me it's the bit after "how can I even try to go on." The riff starts on the word, "on."101Walterton wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:03pmI always presumed it was the descending notes in the chorus?
He's always a winner in my book!Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:11pmNot for the first time this week.Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:09pmHeston is the winner.Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:08pmFor me it's the bit after "how can I even try to go on." The riff starts on the word, "on."101Walterton wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:03pmI always presumed it was the descending notes in the chorus?
The loser (Flex) standing small.Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:12pmThe winner takes it all.Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:11pmNot for the first time this week.Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:09pmHeston is the winner.Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:08pmFor me it's the bit after "how can I even try to go on." The riff starts on the word, "on."101Walterton wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:03pm
I always presumed it was the descending notes in the chorus?
You do realise it was only a robot you beat. Flex is not a real person.Heston wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:15pmThe loser (Flex) standing small.
I also don't think it's a steal - just similar and something I've heard mentioned before. Thought it might lighten up this conversation!Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 7:43pmYep I knew you would know the technical specifics. It is similar but I don't think it's a steal either.Kory wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 7:12pmAnd the octave and 5th are reversed as well, but still quite similar.Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 5:30pmYep. It's just speeded up kind of.Kory wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 5:18pmIs this referring to the Pretty Vacant-esque intro?WestwayKid wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 1:13pmThe only "conspiracy" is whether Mick ripped off Steve Jones or the other way around
Thanks for the info I had no idea where City of the Dead come from. I'm not sure if I've ever heard it.Aeneas wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:12pmCity of the Dead was the B-side to Complete Control (the 2nd Clash anthem)Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 8:48pmWell some truth at last but in 1964 there were around 350 registered Heroin addicts in the UK.Aeneas wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 7:59pmClearly, Strummer had trouble keeping his own drummer Topper HeadonMarky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:49amSounds like you are making up your own theory.
Heroin wasn't destroying Strummer's friends. Their own stupidity did that and Joe singing about Heroin killing his friends in 1976 is stupid talk how many of Joe's squatting community do you think could afford a bag of Heroin? Sure the Heartbreakers famously took Heroin but they were not to blame for the likes of Sid taking it as he had taken it even before he joined the Pistols and met Thunders etc. So I wonder exactly who you think these friends were Joe was allegedly singing about?
The UK drug of choice for the punks and soul boys was Speed because it was cheap (affordable) and served it purpose for all-nighters.
You changing the ad-libs to suit your own narrative/conspiracy doesn't make it right.
Should change the name of the song back to it's original title "I'm So Bored with You".
Not in 1976 he didn't when the song in question was written and Terry was the drummer. Fail.
from the heroin needle, and eventually was forced to fire him.
Certainly, backstage when Sid Vicious was holding court as a solo act
in NYC in late 1978/early 1979 with several members of the New York Dolls
must have been a blast -- Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan (drummer) were
definitely heroin addicts, in a place, NYC, where it has always been
extremely easy to 'score' or 'cop' heroin.
How did Joe write about these events in "I'm So Bored with the USA" when they occured after 1976?
=============City of the Dead==================
In the city of the dead
Fall in love an' fall in bed
It wasn't anything you said
Except I know we both lie dead
Don't you know where to cop
That's what New York Johnny said
You should get to know your town
Just like I know mine
=============================================
Johnny telling Joe that it's best to know where to score and where can he get gear in the UK. Joe took Heroin once it's alleged and covered it up with a hepatitis scare which was claimed he got from swallowing some gob.
From what I have read, there was a "British System" within
the UK health system in the late 60's/early 70's to prescribe heroin
to people who their psychiatrists thought needed the drug,
through Drug Dependency Units (DDU) established by the Ministry of Health.
Thus it appears the UK Parliament was the one importing much of the
Golden Crescent opium directly.
and that single was released 23 September 1977 (U.K.) .
Clearly, there are members of this forum who hate Joe Strummer and make up
ugly stories about him -- weird.
350 who were registered heroin addicts -- the rest, who preferred not to deal with the psychiatrists,
or who were being weaned onto methadone by those clinics,
'scored' their heroin on the street.
He had an excuse: it was the drugs. (I think we've all worn raccoons in some manner while under some kind of influence.)
I can only imagine drug addicts/dealers and record companies/organized crimeMarky Dread wrote: ↑06 Mar 2019, 4:30pmThanks for the info I had no idea where City of the Dead come from. I'm not sure if I've ever heard it.Aeneas wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 9:12pmCity of the Dead was the B-side to Complete Control (the 2nd Clash anthem)Marky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 8:48pmWell some truth at last but in 1964 there were around 350 registered Heroin addicts in the UK.Aeneas wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 7:59pmClearly, Strummer had trouble keeping his own drummer Topper HeadonMarky Dread wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 11:49am
Sounds like you are making up your own theory.
Heroin wasn't destroying Strummer's friends. Their own stupidity did that and Joe singing about Heroin killing his friends in 1976 is stupid talk how many of Joe's squatting community do you think could afford a bag of Heroin? Sure the Heartbreakers famously took Heroin but they were not to blame for the likes of Sid taking it as he had taken it even before he joined the Pistols and met Thunders etc. So I wonder exactly who you think these friends were Joe was allegedly singing about?
The UK drug of choice for the punks and soul boys was Speed because it was cheap (affordable) and served it purpose for all-nighters.
You changing the ad-libs to suit your own narrative/conspiracy doesn't make it right.
Should change the name of the song back to it's original title "I'm So Bored with You".
Not in 1976 he didn't when the song in question was written and Terry was the drummer. Fail.
from the heroin needle, and eventually was forced to fire him.
Certainly, backstage when Sid Vicious was holding court as a solo act
in NYC in late 1978/early 1979 with several members of the New York Dolls
must have been a blast -- Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan (drummer) were
definitely heroin addicts, in a place, NYC, where it has always been
extremely easy to 'score' or 'cop' heroin.
How did Joe write about these events in "I'm So Bored with the USA" when they occured after 1976?
=============City of the Dead==================
In the city of the dead
Fall in love an' fall in bed
It wasn't anything you said
Except I know we both lie dead
Don't you know where to cop
That's what New York Johnny said
You should get to know your town
Just like I know mine
=============================================
Johnny telling Joe that it's best to know where to score and where can he get gear in the UK. Joe took Heroin once it's alleged and covered it up with a hepatitis scare which was claimed he got from swallowing some gob.
From what I have read, there was a "British System" within
the UK health system in the late 60's/early 70's to prescribe heroin
to people who their psychiatrists thought needed the drug,
through Drug Dependency Units (DDU) established by the Ministry of Health.
Thus it appears the UK Parliament was the one importing much of the
Golden Crescent opium directly.
and that single was released 23 September 1977 (U.K.) .
Clearly, there are members of this forum who hate Joe Strummer and make up
ugly stories about him -- weird.
350 who were registered heroin addicts -- the rest, who preferred not to deal with the psychiatrists,
or who were being weaned onto methadone by those clinics,
'scored' their heroin on the street.
Everyone here hates Joe Strummer. Why don't you?
You are correct in 1977 the UK was wall to wall deep in junkies. You couldn't go to the local supermarket without bumping into one. I'm amazed there are any people left living here it was such an epidemic.
This sounds like the record company.