The Clash observations thread.

[101Walterton]

"you know we just con everyone in the classroom "

I hear that ''J'' sound also and you may be correct that it's something different to the assumed ''piss''. The problem I have is that The Clash a punk group in '78 being concerned about using the word ''piss'' in a song when the same song uses the word ''shit'' in the previous line makes little sense to me. I thought maybe it was just Mick making a mess of the line in the recording but then surely it would've been just as easy to re-record or edit the vocal take. So who knows mate.

We’ll burn it fucking down to a cinder?

That was Mick pre-empting Joe's later relationship.

''We’ll burn it fucking down for Lucinda''

I thought it was our PM Jacinda?

Are you an Ardernt supporter?

Haha actually I like Jacinda I just don’t like her party.

[Marky Dread]

We’ll burn it fucking down to a cinder?

That was Mick pre-empting Joe's later relationship.

''We’ll burn it fucking down for Lucinda''

I thought it was our PM Jacinda?

Are you an Ardernt supporter?

Haha actually I like Jacinda I just don’t like her party.

Same here.

[Heston]

We jizz on everyone in the classroom

Yeah, it was mentioned earlier and it is actually what it sounds like, phonetically. There is no P there at all.

You're not taking the "piss" then.

Seriously it is "piss" mate. It's most likely just Mick's phrasing. He doesn't pronounce the ''H" when he sings "it the wrong guy".

To make you feel better "you know we jest on everyone in the classroom ".

That's a well known Cockneyism, but pronouncing P as J isn't!

Sorry, but I'm just not having it that he says piss on the GEER version. Had another listen there and I'm convinced.

"you know we just con everyone in the classroom "

I hear that ''J'' sound also and you may be correct that it's something different to the assumed ''piss''. The problem I have is that The Clash a punk group in '78 being concerned about using the word ''piss'' in a song when the same song uses the word ''shit'' in the previous line makes little sense to me. I thought maybe it was just Mick making a mess of the line in the recording but then surely it would've been just as easy to re-record or edit the vocal take. So who knows mate.

It certainly sounds more like "We just conned everyone' than the piss line.

[101Walterton]

Yeah, it was mentioned earlier and it is actually what it sounds like, phonetically. There is no P there at all.

You're not taking the "piss" then.

Seriously it is "piss" mate. It's most likely just Mick's phrasing. He doesn't pronounce the ''H" when he sings "it the wrong guy".

To make you feel better "you know we jest on everyone in the classroom ".

That's a well known Cockneyism, but pronouncing P as J isn't!

Sorry, but I'm just not having it that he says piss on the GEER version. Had another listen there and I'm convinced.

"you know we just con everyone in the classroom "

I hear that ''J'' sound also and you may be correct that it's something different to the assumed ''piss''. The problem I have is that The Clash a punk group in '78 being concerned about using the word ''piss'' in a song when the same song uses the word ''shit'' in the previous line makes little sense to me. I thought maybe it was just Mick making a mess of the line in the recording but then surely it would've been just as easy to re-record or edit the vocal take. So who knows mate.

It certainly sounds more like "We just conned everyone' than the piss line.

Piss was a commonly used word in 1978 but was it used in the context of pissing on someone? I cant remember.

[Wolter]

It has never not sounded like “piss” to my ears, even when I didn’t have a lyric sheet. Which also says “piss.”

[drowninghere]

It has never not sounded like “piss” to my ears, even when I didn’t have a lyric sheet. Which also says “piss.”

Full agreement - heard this lyric as plain as day long before I would have ever seen a lyric sheet or heard a live version.

[Marky Dread]

You're not taking the "piss" then.

Seriously it is "piss" mate. It's most likely just Mick's phrasing. He doesn't pronounce the ''H" when he sings "it the wrong guy".

To make you feel better "you know we jest on everyone in the classroom ".

That's a well known Cockneyism, but pronouncing P as J isn't!

Sorry, but I'm just not having it that he says piss on the GEER version. Had another listen there and I'm convinced.

"you know we just con everyone in the classroom "

I hear that ''J'' sound also and you may be correct that it's something different to the assumed ''piss''. The problem I have is that The Clash a punk group in '78 being concerned about using the word ''piss'' in a song when the same song uses the word ''shit'' in the previous line makes little sense to me. I thought maybe it was just Mick making a mess of the line in the recording but then surely it would've been just as easy to re-record or edit the vocal take. So who knows mate.

It certainly sounds more like "We just conned everyone' than the piss line.

Piss was a commonly used word in 1978 but was it used in the context of pissing on someone? I cant remember.

Yeah I think so mate. A bit later than '78 maybe '80-'81 is the infamous Clash interview where Joe loses his cool about Topper being asked about throwing up. ''Piss off you stupid cunt, before I fucking piss all over you''

[Heston]

It has never not sounded like “piss” to my ears, even when I didn’t have a lyric sheet. Which also says “piss.”

I know the odds are heavily stacked against me on this one but I'm keeping my head above the parapet. I maintain he does not say piss.

[Heston]

You're not taking the "piss" then.

Seriously it is "piss" mate. It's most likely just Mick's phrasing. He doesn't pronounce the ''H" when he sings "it the wrong guy".

To make you feel better "you know we jest on everyone in the classroom ".

That's a well known Cockneyism, but pronouncing P as J isn't!

Sorry, but I'm just not having it that he says piss on the GEER version. Had another listen there and I'm convinced.

"you know we just con everyone in the classroom "

I hear that ''J'' sound also and you may be correct that it's something different to the assumed ''piss''. The problem I have is that The Clash a punk group in '78 being concerned about using the word ''piss'' in a song when the same song uses the word ''shit'' in the previous line makes little sense to me. I thought maybe it was just Mick making a mess of the line in the recording but then surely it would've been just as easy to re-record or edit the vocal take. So who knows mate.

It certainly sounds more like "We just conned everyone' than the piss line.

Piss was a commonly used word in 1978 but was it used in the context of pissing on someone? I cant remember.

People will have been pissed on since the dawn of time, perverts have long been at large.

[Marky Dread]

That's a well known Cockneyism, but pronouncing P as J isn't!

Sorry, but I'm just not having it that he says piss on the GEER version. Had another listen there and I'm convinced.

"you know we just con everyone in the classroom "

I hear that ''J'' sound also and you may be correct that it's something different to the assumed ''piss''. The problem I have is that The Clash a punk group in '78 being concerned about using the word ''piss'' in a song when the same song uses the word ''shit'' in the previous line makes little sense to me. I thought maybe it was just Mick making a mess of the line in the recording but then surely it would've been just as easy to re-record or edit the vocal take. So who knows mate.

It certainly sounds more like "We just conned everyone' than the piss line.

Piss was a commonly used word in 1978 but was it used in the context of pissing on someone? I cant remember.

People will have been pissed on since the dawn of time, perverts have long been at large.

Not in my house.

[101Walterton]

That's a well known Cockneyism, but pronouncing P as J isn't!

Sorry, but I'm just not having it that he says piss on the GEER version. Had another listen there and I'm convinced.

"you know we just con everyone in the classroom "

I hear that ''J'' sound also and you may be correct that it's something different to the assumed ''piss''. The problem I have is that The Clash a punk group in '78 being concerned about using the word ''piss'' in a song when the same song uses the word ''shit'' in the previous line makes little sense to me. I thought maybe it was just Mick making a mess of the line in the recording but then surely it would've been just as easy to re-record or edit the vocal take. So who knows mate.

It certainly sounds more like "We just conned everyone' than the piss line.

Piss was a commonly used word in 1978 but was it used in the context of pissing on someone? I cant remember.

People will have been pissed on since the dawn of time, perverts have long been at large.

Haha I meant the expression to piss on someone. It doesn't refer to a golden shower!!!

[Inder]

I know the odds are heavily stacked against me on this one but I'm keeping my head above the parapet. I maintain he does not say piss.

The Quotable Heston.

[Flex]

I know the odds are heavily stacked against me on this one but I'm keeping my head above the parapet. I maintain he does not say piss.

The Quotable Heston.

A quality quote for many situations, really.

[TeddyB Not Logged In]

Sorry Hes. It's piss.

[Inder]