Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

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Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

Post by bmc » 02 Jan 2014, 4:20pm

I somehow recall seeing the whole press conference from Bonds circulating or am I just making that up? I don't have a full unedited version.

I have below reposted to stay on topic CoB reels and have previously catalogued to the best of my knowledge (follow link) video material circulating. Does anyone know anyone?

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/779 ... index.html
Specifically and in detail --- https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/779 … Bonds.html -

Update: March 2007. Researchers for the Julian Temple Strummer film, The Future is Unwrtten unearthed the full set of reels shot by Don Letts. Of which over 90% was recoverable. They had been kept in a garage lock in South London for over 25 years.

They turned up purely by accident. The whole load of film reels that had been originally shot on 60 millimeter for a film called Clash on Broadway. The film, shot in New York in 1981, was principally going to be a clash movie. However it never actually got finished. The only version of the film that existed was a cutting copy as described above in the various releases, it wasn't great quality.

The film researchers heard about a man who lived in South London, and he had a whole lot of film reels and he wasn't quite sure what they were. They visited him at his house and he told the story about he how he acquired these film reels, not neccessarily by straight forward means, he just had them. And for oer 25 years he sat on them. He kept them in his cellar, he did move house several times but always took them with him. There are 50 film reels from clash on Broadway. It includes amazing footage like The Clash visiting Martin Scorsese on the set of king of comedy. A real find.

We at BMC just hope that all of it and we believe there may be about 20 hours worth, finds its way into some bonus DVD.

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"I was told by the film makers that all the reels had turned up but they didn't know what state they were in. They had been sat there in a lock in South East London for 25 years. When I got told they said they had possession of them and they were nervous as to whether they were preserved or not. A week later I got an email saying most of the reels where ok. About 5-10% may be lost.

"Well, I collected 40 film reels and am planning to go and look at them next week. Some are pretty badly damaged and I don't know yet if they are repairable. It's certainly not all the rushes either but it looks like most of them are there. The Clash aren't aware yet that we have these - it seems premature to be telling them if the footage is in too bad a state to use, but it all looks hopeful. I'll keep you posted."

"Not much is damaged. The garage film footage of CO Broadway is mostly fine, the only damaged stuff is not live footage. I watched everything but only had a limited amount transferred to tape as it was so expensive. There was quite a lot of Bonds stuff in the Clash on Broadway rushes that I found. "

"Regarding the Clash on Broadway release, who knows - the rushes will probably be handed back to Sony as they are the joint rights holder along with the Clash so who knows? But it's going to need a lot of restoration before that - it's a big job."

This was also posted somewhere on here…

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Postby ✭PK✭ » 16 Nov 2013, 10:04pm

bazarboy75 wrote:
Here it is a post from the facebook page "I saw the Clash at Bonds"

"New to the group - just found it this morning.
My partner John Hazard and I were fortunate enough to be hired by Don Letts and The Clash to produce and shoot the documentary of Bonds and beyond that is the Clash on Broadway film featured at the end of Westway to the World. What started out as a one week shoot to get six songs live in the can became a year of our lives. The video for This Is Radio Clash was a lift from the 10 minute trailer for the unfinished film that we shot on 16mm and went all the way to a 35mm blowup to show potential distributors. Needless to say - the project was never completed as the band disassembled after Combat Rock. Clash on Broadway is the rough cut we had finished by the time to project was wrapped and went back to the UK."

I trought it was interested to share

https://www.facebook.com/groups/41602200195/

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The same guy who posted that also wrote this in the comments (bold emphasis mine):

"We shot one complete show with multiple cameras and a 24 track mobile recorder. We also shot most of every show with one camera and in house 8 track recording. The band wore the same gear every night and Topper was such a consistent drummer - and the band well rehearsed - that we were able to build edits from different nights with no trouble at all."

"Sadly - we never shot the opening acts. We started the gig with the intention of doing a six song DVD EP - not a full scale documentary. Shooting expanded as the story expanded and the shows stretched on."

"We were not making a concert movie per se - and my part in the post production ended when the material left the US after doing the Combat Rock video which John shot in Texas."


All of this makes me wonder where all that footage is and why they haven't done a long form concert video or if they will at some point. I mean, a whole show in multi-camera, 24 track?! I can't imagine that kind of thing just inadvertently gets lost.

I'm sure there is way more about this that is known that I am not aware of. I think I've read that lots of footage has been lost but I don't know any details about that.

Concert movies have been constructed from way less (The Doors Hollywood Bowl for one, I expect there are more).

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Re: Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

Post by white man » 02 Jan 2014, 6:44pm

Thanks Graham :D

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Post by Chuck Mangione » 02 Jan 2014, 7:11pm

The dropbox links aren't working for me.

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Post by JohnSimonBeverly » 21 Dec 2018, 8:56pm

bmc wrote:
02 Jan 2014, 4:20pm
I have below reposted to stay on topic CoB reels and have previously catalogued to the best of my knowledge (follow link) video material circulating. Does anyone know anyone?


Concert movies have been constructed from way less (The Doors Hollywood Bowl for one, I expect there are more).

This is fantastic - whatever happened to this material? There are a few short videos on YouTube, but beyond that I haven't seen anything. An official release of this would be truly awesome!

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Post by Kory » 22 Dec 2018, 6:02pm

I would completely vaporize the moment I found out this was a reality. You can tell just from the RC video that this would have been one of the music documentaries to beat for all time.
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Post by matedog » 23 Dec 2018, 1:59pm

Kory wrote:
22 Dec 2018, 6:02pm
I would completely vaporize the moment I found out this was a reality. You can tell just from the RC video that this would have been one of the music documentaries to beat for all time.
Not only would it be a great document of a phenomenal live band, but a time capsule of a still gritty, white flight New York and nascent hip hop culture which would eventually overtake rock and roll as the most vital component of youth culture as it is today.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

Post by Kory » 26 Dec 2018, 2:57pm

matedog wrote:
23 Dec 2018, 1:59pm
Kory wrote:
22 Dec 2018, 6:02pm
I would completely vaporize the moment I found out this was a reality. You can tell just from the RC video that this would have been one of the music documentaries to beat for all time.
Not only would it be a great document of a phenomenal live band, but a time capsule of a still gritty, white flight New York and nascent hip hop culture which would eventually overtake rock and roll as the most vital component of youth culture as it is today.
Yeah, really a historical document as much as anything about a band.
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Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
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Re: Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

Post by JohnSimonBeverly » 03 Feb 2019, 1:24pm

bmc wrote:
02 Jan 2014, 4:20pm
"We shot one complete show with multiple cameras and a 24 track mobile recorder. We also shot most of every show with one camera and in house 8 track recording. The band wore the same gear every night and Topper was such a consistent drummer - and the band well rehearsed - that we were able to build edits from different nights with no trouble at all."

"Sadly - we never shot the opening acts. We started the gig with the intention of doing a six song DVD EP - not a full scale documentary. Shooting expanded as the story expanded and the shows stretched on."

All of this makes me wonder where all that footage is and why they haven't done a long form concert video or if they will at some point. I mean, a whole show in multi-camera, 24 track?! I can't imagine that kind of thing just inadvertently gets lost.

Concert movies have been constructed from way less (The Doors Hollywood Bowl for one, I expect there are more).
Exactly... has anyone heard anything about why this has never been released?
Additionally, over 50 reels of Letts’ NYC Clash footage, including their day as extras on the set of Martin Scorsese’s King of Comedy and a shitton of live Bond Casino footage was found in a South London basement in 2007 when Julien Temple was making his Joe Strummer doc and nearly ALL of it was in good shape. Hopefully we’ll see more from these shows in the future.
https://dangerousminds.net/comments/rio ... n_broadway

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Post by TeddyB Not Logged In » 06 Feb 2019, 1:18am

It hasn't yet been released because of money. Keep your fingers crossed.

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Post by coffeepotman » 06 Feb 2019, 9:42am

Fingers crossed!

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Re: Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

Post by coffeepotman » 06 Feb 2019, 9:43am

matedog wrote:
23 Dec 2018, 1:59pm
Kory wrote:
22 Dec 2018, 6:02pm
I would completely vaporize the moment I found out this was a reality. You can tell just from the RC video that this would have been one of the music documentaries to beat for all time.
Not only would it be a great document of a phenomenal live band, but a time capsule of a still gritty, white flight New York and nascent hip hop culture which would eventually overtake rock and roll as the most vital component of youth culture as it is today.
Totally agree with both statements

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Re: Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

Post by Kory » 06 Feb 2019, 2:03pm

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
06 Feb 2019, 1:18am
It hasn't yet been released because of money. Keep your fingers crossed.
They can have mine.
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Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
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Re: Video from Bonds Casino/NYC May/Jun 1981

Post by Marky Dread » 06 Feb 2019, 6:13pm

Kory wrote:
06 Feb 2019, 2:03pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
06 Feb 2019, 1:18am
It hasn't yet been released because of money. Keep your fingers crossed.
They can have mine.
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