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22 Jan 2019, 4:32pm
People are losing their minds in Milwaukee today with the announcement that American Family Insurance (also a Wisconsin based company) has purchased the naming rights for Miller Park - which will obviously now no longer be called Miller Park after the 2020 season.

Personally (and said as a lifelong Brewer fan), I could care less what they call the park. I care about the product they put on the field and the same people who are now launching petitions are probably the same people griping that the team doesn't spend more. Milwaukee is a small market and if AmFam came in with a better offer - I think the team was correct to take their check.

Nostalgia doesn't pay for starting pitching.

Heck...they played in Milwaukee County Stadium for 30 years before moving into their new home at which point the team sold the naming rights to Miller. There is nothing sacred about the name.
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WestwayKid wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 4:32pm
People are losing their minds in Milwaukee today with the announcement that American Family Insurance (also a Wisconsin based company) has purchased the naming rights for Miller Park - which will obviously now no longer be called Miller Park after the 2020 season.

Personally (and said as a lifelong Brewer fan), I could care less what they call the park. I care about the product they put on the field and the same people who are now launching petitions are probably the same people griping that the team doesn't spend more. Milwaukee is a small market and if AmFam came in with a better offer - I think the team was correct to take their check.

Nostalgia doesn't pay for starting pitching.

Heck...they played in Milwaukee County Stadium for 30 years before moving into their new home at which point the team sold the naming rights to Miller. There is nothing sacred about the name.
Oh no! A corporation's name is replacing … another corporation's name. There are only a handful of teams that eschew that stuff—Dodgers, Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox (am I missing any?)—so that kind of stuff is a pointless complaint unless you want a non-corporate name altogether (tho, of course, naming it after the team is also corporate branding).
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Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Yeah, but the company and park are named after the man. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park. The difference, I think, matters.
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Hey, cool, Rivera is the first unanimous selection to the Hall of Fame. (A) He was a no-brainer, so why not be unanimous? (B) Maybe that "principled" not voting for a first-time eligible candidate to preclude unanimous picks is finally done now. (C) At least Cap'n Jeets won't be the first unanimous pick.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:29pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 5:20pm
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Yeah, but the company and park are named after the man. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park. The difference, I think, matters.
Nope. They had garish "Doublemint Twins" elf mascots adorning the scoreboard by the mid-20's soon after the name-change to Wrigley Field. That's an awfully juicy fruit of an intentional corporate synergy right from the get-go. Especially since the twinks were the only advertising allowed in the ballpark until Tribune Co. bought the team in the early-80's. The only distinction here is that all the people who knew full well back then they were being hustled into buying chewing gum are long dead, because the in-park advertising lapsed under the 4-decade absentee ownership of Bill Wrigley's son after the old man passed.


I mean...William Clay Ford, Jr., Henry's great-grandson and Chairman of Ford Motors, is the owner of the Detroit Lions and was in charge of the team when they built Ford Field. Does that mean he too is somehow exempt from the soft bigotry of outwardly synergistic marketing?

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Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 8:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:29pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 5:20pm
. . .Cubs
er...

Image

:naughty:
Yeah, but the company and park are named after the man. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park. The difference, I think, matters.
Nope. They had garish "Doublemint Twins" elf mascots adorning the scoreboard by the mid-20's soon after the name-change to Wrigley Field. That's an awfully juicy fruit of an intentional corporate synergy right from the get-go. Especially since the twinks were the only advertising allowed in the ballpark until Tribune Co. bought the team in the early-80's. The only distinction here is that all the people who knew full well back then they were being hustled into buying chewing gum are long dead, because the in-park advertising lapsed under the 4-decade absentee ownership of Bill Wrigley's son after the old man passed.


I mean...William Clay Ford, Jr., Henry's great-grandson and Chairman of Ford Motors, is the owner of the Detroit Lions and was in charge of the team when they built Ford Field. Does that mean he too is somehow exempt from the soft bigotry of outwardly synergistic marketing?
Actually, yeah, I do give a pass to Ford Field and to Heinz Field. It is all corporate and always has been, but I make a distinction between those reflecting an era of the personalized business and the ultra bland corporate naming we have now. I'm not by any means saying one is less evil than the other, only that the naming reflects different eras.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:29pm
. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:29pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 5:20pm
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:naughty:
Yeah, but the company and park are named after the man. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park. The difference, I think, matters.
Then couldn't you say Busch Stadium is named after the man as well? YA GOT BURNED.
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JennyB wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 10:36am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:29pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 5:20pm
. . .Cubs
er...

Image

:naughty:
Yeah, but the company and park are named after the man. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park. The difference, I think, matters.
Then couldn't you say Busch Stadium is named after the man as well? YA GOT BURNED.
Just forgetful in my dotage.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 5:20pm
WestwayKid wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 4:32pm
People are losing their minds in Milwaukee today with the announcement that American Family Insurance (also a Wisconsin based company) has purchased the naming rights for Miller Park - which will obviously now no longer be called Miller Park after the 2020 season.

Personally (and said as a lifelong Brewer fan), I could care less what they call the park. I care about the product they put on the field and the same people who are now launching petitions are probably the same people griping that the team doesn't spend more. Milwaukee is a small market and if AmFam came in with a better offer - I think the team was correct to take their check.

Nostalgia doesn't pay for starting pitching.

Heck...they played in Milwaukee County Stadium for 30 years before moving into their new home at which point the team sold the naming rights to Miller. There is nothing sacred about the name.
Oh no! A corporation's name is replacing … another corporation's name. There are only a handful of teams that eschew that stuff—Dodgers, Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox (am I missing any?)—so that kind of stuff is a pointless complaint unless you want a non-corporate name altogether (tho, of course, naming it after the team is also corporate branding).
Exactly! It just worked out that when they sold the initial rights they were bought by a brewery which aligned so nicely with the team and the city - but there is not a connection between the team and Miller. Miller never owned the team. They didn't build the stadium. Until Schlitz, Blatz, and Pabst went belly up - Miller was like the 4th best brewery in town.

Honestly - what's to stop the Cardinals from ditching Busch when their deal is up? AB no longer owns the team and I assume the fact that the park is called Busch Stadium is because AB paid for the naming rights.

It's just a great example of fake outrage. People are up in arms about this - but the fact that Milwaukee is the most segregated city in the country or that we have the zip code with the highest rate of incarcerated African-American men in the country or that we're the 4th poorest city in the US or that we have a long history of police violence towards minorities or that we have a failing public school system or that we have one of the worst inner city housing shortages in the country...
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 8:22pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 8:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:29pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 5:20pm
. . .Cubs
er...

Image

:naughty:
Yeah, but the company and park are named after the man. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park. The difference, I think, matters.
Nope. They had garish "Doublemint Twins" elf mascots adorning the scoreboard by the mid-20's soon after the name-change to Wrigley Field. That's an awfully juicy fruit of an intentional corporate synergy right from the get-go. Especially since the twinks were the only advertising allowed in the ballpark until Tribune Co. bought the team in the early-80's. The only distinction here is that all the people who knew full well back then they were being hustled into buying chewing gum are long dead, because the in-park advertising lapsed under the 4-decade absentee ownership of Bill Wrigley's son after the old man passed.


I mean...William Clay Ford, Jr., Henry's great-grandson and Chairman of Ford Motors, is the owner of the Detroit Lions and was in charge of the team when they built Ford Field. Does that mean he too is somehow exempt from the soft bigotry of outwardly synergistic marketing?
Actually, yeah, I do give a pass to Ford Field and to Heinz Field. It is all corporate and always has been, but I make a distinction between those reflecting an era of the personalized business and the ultra bland corporate naming we have now. I'm not by any means saying one is less evil than the other, only that the naming reflects different eras.
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WestwayKid wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 11:35am
It's just a great example of fake outrage. People are up in arms about this - but the fact that Milwaukee is the most segregated city in the country or that we have the zip code with the highest rate of incarcerated African-American men in the country or that we're the 4th poorest city in the US or that we have a long history of police violence towards minorities or that we have a failing public school system or that we have one of the worst inner city housing shortages in the country...
I quite enjoy when conservatives froth at the mouth about Gramsci and cultural Marxism and how this is how people get brainwashed. They ain't wrong exactly, but the structuring of values and behaviours is a few leaps to the right away from any kind of socialist dream.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
23 Jan 2019, 11:40am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 8:22pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 8:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:29pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 7:25pm


er...

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:naughty:
Yeah, but the company and park are named after the man. It's not like it's Juicy Fruit Park. The difference, I think, matters.
Nope. They had garish "Doublemint Twins" elf mascots adorning the scoreboard by the mid-20's soon after the name-change to Wrigley Field. That's an awfully juicy fruit of an intentional corporate synergy right from the get-go. Especially since the twinks were the only advertising allowed in the ballpark until Tribune Co. bought the team in the early-80's. The only distinction here is that all the people who knew full well back then they were being hustled into buying chewing gum are long dead, because the in-park advertising lapsed under the 4-decade absentee ownership of Bill Wrigley's son after the old man passed.


I mean...William Clay Ford, Jr., Henry's great-grandson and Chairman of Ford Motors, is the owner of the Detroit Lions and was in charge of the team when they built Ford Field. Does that mean he too is somehow exempt from the soft bigotry of outwardly synergistic marketing?
Actually, yeah, I do give a pass to Ford Field and to Heinz Field. It is all corporate and always has been, but I make a distinction between those reflecting an era of the personalized business and the ultra bland corporate naming we have now. I'm not by any means saying one is less evil than the other, only that the naming reflects different eras.
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Both Busch and Wrigley do happen to date from an era before “naming rights,” because they were the companies that owned the team. I draw that distinction, if only mildly.

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