I know he played slide on that early ska live version, but the actual studio cut? Hes, you got any input on this as you are the most technically adept at guit?Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:11pmMick plays bottleneck guitar on that one.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:52pmIt's a fantastic track. I've always loved Joe's vocal on that one. I was just looking at the Wikipedia page (for what it's worth) for the track and the musical credits are interesting. Mick's sole contribution is listed as sound effects. Joe's credited for guitars (and piano).Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:31pmI love Bankrobber it's a fantastic track. I've always been stunned that the record label wouldn't release it the UK and it had to chart on import initially.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:27pmYeah it’s him alright....I’m 90% convinced now and that’s close to how certain i can be about anything these mental days and that includes night and day!
Must say i have a real soft spot for bankrobber, particularly the epic the meskies made out of it, but not least because of the fun the band seem to be having in that video. They still seem so together, a group, happy in their skin and making great songs. And....within a year pretty much turned to shit or at least heading that way. Ah, well...
The Clash observations thread.
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
-
Low Down Low
- Unknown Immortal
- Posts: 5040
- Joined: 21 Aug 2014, 9:08am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
That the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!matedog wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:24pmI know he played slide on that early ska live version, but the actual studio cut? Hes, you got any input on this as you are the most technically adept at guit?Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:11pmMick plays bottleneck guitar on that one.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:52pmIt's a fantastic track. I've always loved Joe's vocal on that one. I was just looking at the Wikipedia page (for what it's worth) for the track and the musical credits are interesting. Mick's sole contribution is listed as sound effects. Joe's credited for guitars (and piano).Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:31pmI love Bankrobber it's a fantastic track. I've always been stunned that the record label wouldn't release it the UK and it had to chart on import initially.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:27pm
Yeah it’s him alright....I’m 90% convinced now and that’s close to how certain i can be about anything these mental days and that includes night and day!
Must say i have a real soft spot for bankrobber, particularly the epic the meskies made out of it, but not least because of the fun the band seem to be having in that video. They still seem so together, a group, happy in their skin and making great songs. And....within a year pretty much turned to shit or at least heading that way. Ah, well...
- Marky Dread
- Messiah of the Milk Bar
- Posts: 59051
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
That picture cover is John McVicar a British journalist and convicted one-time armed robber who escaped from prison in the 1960s.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
- 101Walterton
- The Best
- Posts: 21973
- Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 5:36pm
- Location: Volcanic Rock In The Pacific
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Really? I never knew that.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:58pmThat picture cover is John McVicar a British journalist and convicted one-time armed robber who escaped from prison in the 1960s.
- Marky Dread
- Messiah of the Milk Bar
- Posts: 59051
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Yep the one and the same who scripted his own film where Roger Daltrey played the lead role.101Walterton wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:05pmReally? I never knew that.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:58pmThat picture cover is John McVicar a British journalist and convicted one-time armed robber who escaped from prison in the 1960s.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
- 101Walterton
- The Best
- Posts: 21973
- Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 5:36pm
- Location: Volcanic Rock In The Pacific
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Yep I know him (not personally) he became a criminologist.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:07pmYep the one and the same who scripted his own film where Roger Daltrey played the lead role.101Walterton wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:05pmReally? I never knew that.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:58pmThat picture cover is John McVicar a British journalist and convicted one-time armed robber who escaped from prison in the 1960s.
- Marky Dread
- Messiah of the Milk Bar
- Posts: 59051
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
He wrote two books on the murder of Jill Dando.101Walterton wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:12pmYep I know him (not personally) he became a criminologist.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:07pmYep the one and the same who scripted his own film where Roger Daltrey played the lead role.101Walterton wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:05pmReally? I never knew that.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:58pmThat picture cover is John McVicar a British journalist and convicted one-time armed robber who escaped from prison in the 1960s.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
- Marky Dread
- Messiah of the Milk Bar
- Posts: 59051
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
I don't hear it either. It's supposedly understated and is hidden under the heavy reverb sound on the piano.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:54pmThat the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!matedog wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:24pmI know he played slide on that early ska live version, but the actual studio cut? Hes, you got any input on this as you are the most technically adept at guit?Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:11pmMick plays bottleneck guitar on that one.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:52pmIt's a fantastic track. I've always loved Joe's vocal on that one. I was just looking at the Wikipedia page (for what it's worth) for the track and the musical credits are interesting. Mick's sole contribution is listed as sound effects. Joe's credited for guitars (and piano).Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:31pm
I love Bankrobber it's a fantastic track. I've always been stunned that the record label wouldn't release it the UK and it had to chart on import initially.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
- 101Walterton
- The Best
- Posts: 21973
- Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 5:36pm
- Location: Volcanic Rock In The Pacific
Re: The Clash observations thread.
I met his son once. He fell out of a tree hiding from Police and broke both legs then escaped from Police custody whilst in St Mary’s Hospital In Paddington with 2 broken legs. True story.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:14pmHe wrote two books on the murder of Jill Dando.101Walterton wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:12pmYep I know him (not personally) he became a criminologist.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:07pmYep the one and the same who scripted his own film where Roger Daltrey played the lead role.101Walterton wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:05pmReally? I never knew that.Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:58pmThat picture cover is John McVicar a British journalist and convicted one-time armed robber who escaped from prison in the 1960s.
-
Low Down Low
- Unknown Immortal
- Posts: 5040
- Joined: 21 Aug 2014, 9:08am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
I just checked Marcus Gray and he confirms mick did play the slide on the early version, called “the bankrobbing song”, but at mikey dreads initiation it was heavily dubbed to become the single version. Good job mikey you’d have to say. Would pay steeply to hear that early version though!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:16pmI don't hear it either. It's supposedly understated and is hidden under the heavy reverb sound on the piano.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:54pmThat the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!matedog wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:24pmI know he played slide on that early ska live version, but the actual studio cut? Hes, you got any input on this as you are the most technically adept at guit?Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:11pmMick plays bottleneck guitar on that one.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 6:52pm
It's a fantastic track. I've always loved Joe's vocal on that one. I was just looking at the Wikipedia page (for what it's worth) for the track and the musical credits are interesting. Mick's sole contribution is listed as sound effects. Joe's credited for guitars (and piano).
- Marky Dread
- Messiah of the Milk Bar
- Posts: 59051
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Same here. I wonder if it still exists.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:27pmI just checked Marcus Gray and he confirms mick did play the slide on the early version, called “the bankrobbing song”, but at mikey dreads initiation it was heavily dubbed to become the single version. Good job mikey you’d have to say. Would pay steeply to hear that early version though!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:16pmI don't hear it either. It's supposedly understated and is hidden under the heavy reverb sound on the piano.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:54pmThat the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
- 101Walterton
- The Best
- Posts: 21973
- Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 5:36pm
- Location: Volcanic Rock In The Pacific
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Wasn’t it originally a Ska track? I am sure the first live performances are very different to how the song ended up.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:27pmI just checked Marcus Gray and he confirms mick did play the slide on the early version, called “the bankrobbing song”, but at mikey dreads initiation it was heavily dubbed to become the single version. Good job mikey you’d have to say. Would pay steeply to hear that early version though!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:16pmI don't hear it either. It's supposedly understated and is hidden under the heavy reverb sound on the piano.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:54pmThat the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!
-
Low Down Low
- Unknown Immortal
- Posts: 5040
- Joined: 21 Aug 2014, 9:08am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Yes absolutely it does and what’s more, it’s going to be lumped in with the package of S! demoes being released for the 40th anniversary next year!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:29pmSame here. I wonder if it still exists.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:27pmI just checked Marcus Gray and he confirms mick did play the slide on the early version, called “the bankrobbing song”, but at mikey dreads initiation it was heavily dubbed to become the single version. Good job mikey you’d have to say. Would pay steeply to hear that early version though!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:16pmI don't hear it either. It's supposedly understated and is hidden under the heavy reverb sound on the piano.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:54pmThat the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!
Well, you can always dream right
- Marky Dread
- Messiah of the Milk Bar
- Posts: 59051
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Too right matey.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 9:14pmYes absolutely it does and what’s more, it’s going to be lumped in with the package of S! demoes being released for the 40th anniversary next year!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:29pmSame here. I wonder if it still exists.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:27pmI just checked Marcus Gray and he confirms mick did play the slide on the early version, called “the bankrobbing song”, but at mikey dreads initiation it was heavily dubbed to become the single version. Good job mikey you’d have to say. Would pay steeply to hear that early version though!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:16pmI don't hear it either. It's supposedly understated and is hidden under the heavy reverb sound on the piano.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:54pm
That the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!
Well, you can always dream right
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
- Marky Dread
- Messiah of the Milk Bar
- Posts: 59051
- Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am
Re: The Clash observations thread.
Ska (ish). The one Heston mentions as the Kampuchea (I was there!!!) version is more rocked up.101Walterton wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:30pmWasn’t it originally a Ska track? I am sure the first live performances are very different to how the song ended up.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:27pmI just checked Marcus Gray and he confirms mick did play the slide on the early version, called “the bankrobbing song”, but at mikey dreads initiation it was heavily dubbed to become the single version. Good job mikey you’d have to say. Would pay steeply to hear that early version though!Marky Dread wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 8:16pmI don't hear it either. It's supposedly understated and is hidden under the heavy reverb sound on the piano.Low Down Low wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 7:54pmThat the Kampuchea one? Really love that uptempo version. I don’t hear Mick on the studio track personally but I have cloth ears for lugs both sides!
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia