Lydon claims that track cost exactly one reel of tape to make, to me it just sounds as if they kidnapped the tape operator and tied him up with his own tape... great fun.Dr. Medulla wrote:That'd be … interesting. What a painful piece of abrasive noise that one is. And that's not necessarily a negative.Marky Dread wrote:In the book John Lydon's Metal Box it mentions the original version of the Cowboy Song being not a throw away intsrumental track but a fully formed song like an irish ballad which Jim Walker claims was brilliant it would be interesting to see if it was kept on tape along with a couple of other numbers the early Pil line up scrapped.
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So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
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To be honest none.Polltopher wrote:So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
just a lot of imitators.
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Depends on what you think PiL's legacy was. Is it heavy rhythm mixed with dissonance? An adventurous spirit and rejection of what was going on around them? Indulgence and pissing away good will and creative momentum? The bands that remind me most of classic PiL were contemporaries—The Raincoats (first two albums, anyway) and Kleenex/Lilliput in terms of sound and approach, and Wire, or rather Gilbert and Lewis experimental stuff during the band's first hiatus. Can't really think of any contemporary bands off-hand that make me think of the Lydon/Levene/Wobble line-up in either sound or approach.Polltopher wrote:So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
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Lots of bands have elements of that PIL sound and many cite them as an influence but is it right to say legacy where PIL were concerned as they set out to be anti stars and convince everyone R 'N' R was dead...This persons had enough of useless memories.
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I find that Meat Beat Manifesto's Subliminal Sandwich is a great companion to Second Edition, actually.
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Ha, that actually makes a lot of sense. Point for CK.SlabTopher wrote:I find that Meat Beat Manifesto's Subliminal Sandwich is a great companion to Second Edition, actually.
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I don't know that album but aren't they more industrial sounding than PIL?SlabTopher wrote:I find that Meat Beat Manifesto's Subliminal Sandwich is a great companion to Second Edition, actually.
the thing that works so well with PIL is the melodic structure the discord is built upon.
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I think Wolt would say the Spice Girls.Polltopher wrote:So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
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No. They're the heirs to the SEX PISTOLS. The heirs to classic PiL are clearly 6 Finger Satellite...JennyB wrote:I think Wolt would say the Spice Girls.Polltopher wrote:So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
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No, Sigue Sigue Sputnik were the heirs to the Sex Pistols—the up-front scam. The Spice Girls were Motown girl group redux.Wolter wrote:No. They're the heirs to the SEX PISTOLS. The heirs to classic PiL are clearly 6 Finger Satellite...JennyB wrote:I think Wolt would say the Spice Girls.Polltopher wrote:So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
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So were the Sex Pistols...just without the motown sound or the uteruses.Dr. Medulla wrote:No, Sigue Sigue Sputnik were the heirs to the Sex Pistols—the up-front scam. The Spice Girls were Motown girl group redux.Wolter wrote:No. They're the heirs to the SEX PISTOLS. The heirs to classic PiL are clearly 6 Finger Satellite...JennyB wrote:I think Wolt would say the Spice Girls.Polltopher wrote:So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
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Yup, tho the open greed was different—where the branch forks off.Wolter wrote:So were the Sex Pistols...just without the motown sound or the uteruses.Dr. Medulla wrote:No, Sigue Sigue Sputnik were the heirs to the Sex Pistols—the up-front scam. The Spice Girls were Motown girl group redux.Wolter wrote:No. They're the heirs to the SEX PISTOLS. The heirs to classic PiL are clearly 6 Finger Satellite...JennyB wrote:I think Wolt would say the Spice Girls.Polltopher wrote:So here's a question- which band do you think best carried on with the legacy of the classic PiL?
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Maybe it's a perception difference, but the open greed is apparent to me in both.Dr. Medulla wrote:Yup, tho the open greed was different—where the branch forks off.Wolter wrote:So were the Sex Pistols...just without the motown sound or the uteruses.Dr. Medulla wrote:No, Sigue Sigue Sputnik were the heirs to the Sex Pistols—the up-front scam. The Spice Girls were Motown girl group redux.Wolter wrote:No. They're the heirs to the SEX PISTOLS. The heirs to classic PiL are clearly 6 Finger Satellite...JennyB wrote: I think Wolt would say the Spice Girls.
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Were girl groups promoted with a manifesto that it's all about the money? That's not what the fans thought it was about. The Pistols and SSS flaunted the idea that the music was secondary to raping the music industry. The Spice Girls were back to that slyer (is that spelled right? Doesn't look right), "Of course it's about the money, dear" with a wink, "but we'll say it's about empowerment."Wolter wrote:Maybe it's a perception difference, but the open greed is apparent to me in both.Dr. Medulla wrote:Yup, tho the open greed was different—where the branch forks off.Wolter wrote:So were the Sex Pistols...just without the motown sound or the uteruses.Dr. Medulla wrote:No, Sigue Sigue Sputnik were the heirs to the Sex Pistols—the up-front scam. The Spice Girls were Motown girl group redux.Wolter wrote: No. They're the heirs to the SEX PISTOLS. The heirs to classic PiL are clearly 6 Finger Satellite...
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