The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 6:06pm
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20 Apr 2020, 4:40pm
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Just a small point but Mike Joyce was in punk bands before The Smiths. The funk band was Johnny and Andy (Freak Party) with Simon Wolstencroft on drums.
Yeah, I was just talking about the two stringmen.
Ahh.. got it. I always wonder how different The Smiths might have sounded with SW on drums - maybe it would have influenced more of JMs funk side.
My guess would be Morrissey would have left the band.
Or just shoved SW out. Wasn't Morrissey the prime instigator for dumping Rourke over his heroin addiction?
Yes, though I don't know if he'd identify SW as the instigator of funk if Marr and Rourke were writing to go with it. He might think he found himself in some funk band unexpectedly and go back to working with Billy Duffy or something.
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Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 6:26pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 6:06pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 4:40pm
oliver wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 4:15pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:32pm


Yeah, I was just talking about the two stringmen.
Ahh.. got it. I always wonder how different The Smiths might have sounded with SW on drums - maybe it would have influenced more of JMs funk side.
My guess would be Morrissey would have left the band.
Or just shoved SW out. Wasn't Morrissey the prime instigator for dumping Rourke over his heroin addiction?
Yes, though I don't know if he'd identify SW as the instigator of funk if Marr and Rourke were writing to go with it. He might think he found himself in some funk band unexpectedly and go back to working with Billy Duffy or something.
It depends, I suppose, on whether he thought his bond with Marr was greater than Marr's with Rourke.
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This video premiered today on Morrissey’s official YouTube channel. I was at this show. Nice to relive it.

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BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
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This video premiered today on Morrissey’s official YouTube channel. I was at this show. Nice to relive it.

Nice when I could still relate to him.

I was at this one from the same year.
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22 May 2020, 5:56pm

I was at this one from the same year.
Yes, that’s a great one. I received a VHS copy of this show back then. Alain’s finger(s) were bleeding, but he played on.

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BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
22 May 2020, 6:48pm
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I was at this one from the same year.
Yes, that’s a great one. I received a VHS copy of this show back then. Alain’s finger(s) were bleeding, but he played on.
I think they were a very solid band.
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From the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."

We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.

At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
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oliver wrote:
05 Jun 2020, 9:42am
From the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."

We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.

At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
All of which is likely true, but he no longer enjoys the benefit of the doubt. The arrow has moved enough overall that when an interpretation can be made, plenty are inclined to see the darker side with him. It might not be fair, but he's earned it.
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