The Thread to Ruminate About Mike Love's Rape Van

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:08am
Sorry, just realized you'd posted a new review. Jesus, what a slog. Apparently the summertime hot fun is about five beers into the afternoon and on the verge of a nap. All these records sound like contractual obligation product.
I've got three more reviews before I'm done with this exercise in misery. Interestingly, this is the only video of the remaining songs with any level of budget (except the Stamos one, but that had NBC ties I'm assuming). So there was a legit push for this weird ass choice for a cover.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:12am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:08am
Sorry, just realized you'd posted a new review. Jesus, what a slog. Apparently the summertime hot fun is about five beers into the afternoon and on the verge of a nap. All these records sound like contractual obligation product.
I've got three more reviews before I'm done with this exercise in misery. Interestingly, this is the only video of the remaining songs with any level of budget (except the Stamos one, but that had NBC ties I'm assuming). So there was a legit push for this weird ass choice for a cover.
Who was the creative director of the group at this time? Who was pushing for tepid covers just so the band was quote-unquote active?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 12:54pm
matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:12am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:08am
Sorry, just realized you'd posted a new review. Jesus, what a slog. Apparently the summertime hot fun is about five beers into the afternoon and on the verge of a nap. All these records sound like contractual obligation product.
I've got three more reviews before I'm done with this exercise in misery. Interestingly, this is the only video of the remaining songs with any level of budget (except the Stamos one, but that had NBC ties I'm assuming). So there was a legit push for this weird ass choice for a cover.
Who was the creative director of the group at this time? Who was pushing for tepid covers just so the band was quote-unquote active?
I chalked it up to Mike Love and that he and Melcher were in charge with the creative decisions at this point, but that's mainly due to Brian's absence and the lack of Carl and Al songs on the album. Bruce is a fucking lackey so he was never in charge of shit.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 1:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 12:54pm
matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:12am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:08am
Sorry, just realized you'd posted a new review. Jesus, what a slog. Apparently the summertime hot fun is about five beers into the afternoon and on the verge of a nap. All these records sound like contractual obligation product.
I've got three more reviews before I'm done with this exercise in misery. Interestingly, this is the only video of the remaining songs with any level of budget (except the Stamos one, but that had NBC ties I'm assuming). So there was a legit push for this weird ass choice for a cover.
Who was the creative director of the group at this time? Who was pushing for tepid covers just so the band was quote-unquote active?
I chalked it up to Mike Love and that he and Melcher were in charge with the creative decisions at this point, but that's mainly due to Brian's absence and the lack of Carl and Al songs on the album. Bruce is a fucking lackey so he was never in charge of shit.
I assumed this was the case, but it's shocking that Carl and Al would just acquiesce. They have experienced ears—they had to know that this was shit with a capital sh.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 1:36pm
matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 1:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 12:54pm
matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:12am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:08am
Sorry, just realized you'd posted a new review. Jesus, what a slog. Apparently the summertime hot fun is about five beers into the afternoon and on the verge of a nap. All these records sound like contractual obligation product.
I've got three more reviews before I'm done with this exercise in misery. Interestingly, this is the only video of the remaining songs with any level of budget (except the Stamos one, but that had NBC ties I'm assuming). So there was a legit push for this weird ass choice for a cover.
Who was the creative director of the group at this time? Who was pushing for tepid covers just so the band was quote-unquote active?
I chalked it up to Mike Love and that he and Melcher were in charge with the creative decisions at this point, but that's mainly due to Brian's absence and the lack of Carl and Al songs on the album. Bruce is a fucking lackey so he was never in charge of shit.
I assumed this was the case, but it's shocking that Carl and Al would just acquiesce. They have experienced ears—they had to know that this was shit with a capital sh.
They are complicit in a lot of shit in this era. I'd like to think they are better than this, but my takeaway is that they were not.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 1:54pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 1:36pm
matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 1:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 12:54pm
matedog wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:12am


I've got three more reviews before I'm done with this exercise in misery. Interestingly, this is the only video of the remaining songs with any level of budget (except the Stamos one, but that had NBC ties I'm assuming). So there was a legit push for this weird ass choice for a cover.
Who was the creative director of the group at this time? Who was pushing for tepid covers just so the band was quote-unquote active?
I chalked it up to Mike Love and that he and Melcher were in charge with the creative decisions at this point, but that's mainly due to Brian's absence and the lack of Carl and Al songs on the album. Bruce is a fucking lackey so he was never in charge of shit.
I assumed this was the case, but it's shocking that Carl and Al would just acquiesce. They have experienced ears—they had to know that this was shit with a capital sh.
They are complicit in a lot of shit in this era. I'd like to think they are better than this, but my takeaway is that they were not.
Alternatively, Mike is a master hypnotist.
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I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.

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revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
Like any and every beach boys song you hate?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
I may ruminate on this (as I do Mike Love's Rape Van), but I suspect there's at least a tight little comp to be made of mostly their early stuff (and looking at mostly non-hits) that would pass them off as a bit of a proto-punk garage-surf band. Which you may not love, but you may not hate.
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matedog wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 12:18am
revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
Like any and every beach boys song you hate?
If Ive heard it I don't like it.
Flex wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 12:35am
revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
I may ruminate on this (as I do Mike Love's Rape Van), but I suspect there's at least a tight little comp to be made of mostly their early stuff (and looking at mostly non-hits) that would pass them off as a bit of a proto-punk garage-surf band. Which you may not love, but you may not hate.
Im happy to be proven wrong.

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Flex wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 12:35am
revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
I may ruminate on this (as I do Mike Love's Rape Van), but I suspect there's at least a tight little comp to be made of mostly their early stuff (and looking at mostly non-hits) that would pass them off as a bit of a proto-punk garage-surf band. Which you may not love, but you may not hate.
Yeah, given that they were one of the founders of surf rock, there has to be even an ep's worth of early material that revbob would at least nod at. Get to work on it, you and Hoy!
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 6:15am
Flex wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 12:35am
revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
I may ruminate on this (as I do Mike Love's Rape Van), but I suspect there's at least a tight little comp to be made of mostly their early stuff (and looking at mostly non-hits) that would pass them off as a bit of a proto-punk garage-surf band. Which you may not love, but you may not hate.
Yeah, given that they were one of the founders of surf rock, there has to be even an ep's worth of early material that revbob would at least nod at. Get to work on it, you and Hoy!
Yeah, I do enjoy surf rock. It probably comes down to the vocals now that I consider this with a clear head. So no doubt they have some cool instrumentals that Ive heard and if I can put on my Heston hat for a moment then those wouldn't count.

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revbob wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 6:22am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 6:15am
Flex wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 12:35am
revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
I may ruminate on this (as I do Mike Love's Rape Van), but I suspect there's at least a tight little comp to be made of mostly their early stuff (and looking at mostly non-hits) that would pass them off as a bit of a proto-punk garage-surf band. Which you may not love, but you may not hate.
Yeah, given that they were one of the founders of surf rock, there has to be even an ep's worth of early material that revbob would at least nod at. Get to work on it, you and Hoy!
Yeah, I do enjoy surf rock. It probably comes down to the vocals now that I consider this with a clear head. So no doubt they have some cool instrumentals that Ive heard and if I can put on my Heston hat for a moment then those wouldn't count.
An applied Heston hat, anyway, as the stuff you might like or tolerate would be pre-1964, before music existed or was good or something.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 6:15am
Flex wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 12:35am
revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
I may ruminate on this (as I do Mike Love's Rape Van), but I suspect there's at least a tight little comp to be made of mostly their early stuff (and looking at mostly non-hits) that would pass them off as a bit of a proto-punk garage-surf band. Which you may not love, but you may not hate.
Yeah, given that they were one of the founders of surf rock, there has to be even an ep's worth of early material that revbob would at least nod at. Get to work on it, you and Hoy!
I seriously don’t know much about The Beach Boys beyond the hits except 1985-1992. It’s a sad existence.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 8:37am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 6:15am
Flex wrote:
04 Nov 2022, 12:35am
revbob wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 10:53pm
I surely don't know the entire Beach Boys catalog but I pretty much hate anything of theirs that I hear.
I may ruminate on this (as I do Mike Love's Rape Van), but I suspect there's at least a tight little comp to be made of mostly their early stuff (and looking at mostly non-hits) that would pass them off as a bit of a proto-punk garage-surf band. Which you may not love, but you may not hate.
Yeah, given that they were one of the founders of surf rock, there has to be even an ep's worth of early material that revbob would at least nod at. Get to work on it, you and Hoy!
I seriously don’t know much about The Beach Boys beyond the hits except 1985-1992. It’s a sad existence.
You are clearly living out the punishment for some horrific crimes committed in a past life.
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