Eric Eastman with input from Oldham.WestwayKid wrote: ↑01 Sep 2021, 10:18amBetween the Buttons is fantastic from front to back and I think it stands shoulder to shoulder with what the Beatles were doing at the same time. I have heard Mick complain about the muddy sound, but it's not something that has ever bothered me. It was also a great moment for Brian Jones, who played: organ, electric guitar, accordion, recorder, vibraphone, piano, tambourine, harmonica, dulcimer, kazoo, tuba, trombone, and trumpet!!iso74 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021, 6:21pm"Between the Buttons" is one of the most underrated albums full stop! Not least by Mick who thinks Loog Oldham ruined it by swamping it with too many over-dubs. I don't know, I think Loog Oldham winging it in the studio is one of the things that made them so influential, inspiring all those garage bands. I think the second album they did at Chess is too polished, not as good as their first.
Charlie gives it some welly on "Complicated" another great track on it, along with "She Smiled Sweetly". In the early Rock Encyclopedias you used to read that the Stones were a great "singles band" like they didn't come up with great albums like the Beatles. But probably every album up to and including Exile is brilliant, except for "Satanic Majesties". Having said that, after "Exile" I only know the singles.
When Charlie died I thought of his intro to "Get Off My Cloud". I got the single off an Uncle when I was I kid. I thought it was the greatest rock 'n' roll single i'd ever heard. I still do. Pissed me off when I got it on CD and cassette and the drums sounded slower, like batteries dying on a tape recorder. I "Undercover of the Night" was one of the great singles of the 80s. Great guitars, great lyrics, fantastic intro, you can SEE Mick doing the rooster strut.
I've always wondered how much Oldham was actually producing by that point, however. I've read that even though he's listed as producer on those early records, much of the production work was done by the band and the engineers.
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What do you guys think are the best books on the Stones? Is Bill Wyman's "Stone Alone" worth checking out? They say he goes into a lot of boring detail. but as it's based on his diaries of the time there must also be some fascinating details for fans as well.
I liked Sean Egan's books, even though I disagree with a lot of his opinions on songs. I thought Paul Trynka's book on Brian Jones was brilliant, better than his one on Bowie. Oldham's memoirs grated on me with his weird hipsterese. I haven't read Stanley Booth or any of Alan Clayton's bios, only his book on "Beggar's Banquet" which is disappointing and didn't really have that much about the album. Tons of others. Any recommendations?
I liked Sean Egan's books, even though I disagree with a lot of his opinions on songs. I thought Paul Trynka's book on Brian Jones was brilliant, better than his one on Bowie. Oldham's memoirs grated on me with his weird hipsterese. I haven't read Stanley Booth or any of Alan Clayton's bios, only his book on "Beggar's Banquet" which is disappointing and didn't really have that much about the album. Tons of others. Any recommendations?
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I read Up & Down many many years ago, which is kinda the same as Johnny Green's Clash book. I liked it a lot.iso74 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 6:05amWhat do you guys think are the best books on the Stones? Is Bill Wyman's "Stone Alone" worth checking out? They say he goes into a lot of boring detail. but as it's based on his diaries of the time there must also be some fascinating details for fans as well.
I liked Sean Egan's books, even though I disagree with a lot of his opinions on songs. I thought Paul Trynka's book on Brian Jones was brilliant, better than his one on Bowie. Oldham's memoirs grated on me with his weird hipsterese. I haven't read Stanley Booth or any of Alan Clayton's bios, only his book on "Beggar's Banquet" which is disappointing and didn't really have that much about the album. Tons of others. Any recommendations?
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The most sleazy, misogynistic, hard-nosed Stones song of them all. But somehow it's still great. This has it all musically and is presented here in perfect mono.
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Great I love 'Aftermath'.
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I remember meeting a Stones fan who reckoned they went downhill once Brian Jones died. He said the psychedelia and marimbas were way better than the "honky tonk bluesy bullshit". I like both eras but I was honestly taken aback. Can't understand how you could hate on Sticky Fingers...
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Exile is the Stones at their Stonesiest.
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So before Exile how Stonesy were they.
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They were not yet sufficiently Stonesy.
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Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 1:29pmThey were not yet sufficiently Stonesy.
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the stones like to fuck and do drugs, thus making them very relatable. they've been able to obtain both those things quite easily, thus making them much less relatable but also aspirational.
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I'll take Mick's life, but with more expression of actual opinions in public.
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Anyone can fuck and do drugs....even at the same time...but not everyone can write Lady Jane.
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Nice!!!!tepista wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 2:53pmOn a scale of Lava to Granite, they were Limestone
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