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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:20pm
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I think it depends on his specific mood on the night. I've been to shows where he said next to nothing and rushed through the songs and I've been to shows where he's been very chatty and interactive with the crowd. Even when chatty though, it's a little awkward. He only really seems comfortable when singing.
Weird for someone with the reputation for being a god to his most ardent fans. You expect a frontman be to be, not necessarily polished, but a rapport with the audience.
I think one of the reasons people like him is that they feel they have in common with him the characteristic of being an awkward, introverted weirdo.
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Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:20pm
oliver wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:13pm
I think it depends on his specific mood on the night. I've been to shows where he said next to nothing and rushed through the songs and I've been to shows where he's been very chatty and interactive with the crowd. Even when chatty though, it's a little awkward. He only really seems comfortable when singing.
Weird for someone with the reputation for being a god to his most ardent fans. You expect a frontman be to be, not necessarily polished, but a rapport with the audience.
I think one of the reasons people like him is that they feel they have in common with him the characteristic of being an awkward, introverted weirdo.
Right, I get that, but you still want your hero to be a better version of you, something to aspire to. And Morrissey's ardent love of celebrity is very traditional; he's no punk purist who wants to kill rock stars. So I can't imagine he wouldn't seek to promote idolatry amongst his fans.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:56pm
Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:20pm
oliver wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:13pm
I think it depends on his specific mood on the night. I've been to shows where he said next to nothing and rushed through the songs and I've been to shows where he's been very chatty and interactive with the crowd. Even when chatty though, it's a little awkward. He only really seems comfortable when singing.
Weird for someone with the reputation for being a god to his most ardent fans. You expect a frontman be to be, not necessarily polished, but a rapport with the audience.
I think one of the reasons people like him is that they feel they have in common with him the characteristic of being an awkward, introverted weirdo.
Right, I get that, but you still want your hero to be a better version of you, something to aspire to. And Morrissey's ardent love of celebrity is very traditional; he's no punk purist who wants to kill rock stars. So I can't imagine he wouldn't seek to promote idolatry amongst his fans.
He always looked incredibly embarrassed when fans would jump on stage and hug him. But then to me it always felt staged and in reality he was loving it.
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Marky Dread wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:56pm
Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:20pm
oliver wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:13pm
I think it depends on his specific mood on the night. I've been to shows where he said next to nothing and rushed through the songs and I've been to shows where he's been very chatty and interactive with the crowd. Even when chatty though, it's a little awkward. He only really seems comfortable when singing.
Weird for someone with the reputation for being a god to his most ardent fans. You expect a frontman be to be, not necessarily polished, but a rapport with the audience.
I think one of the reasons people like him is that they feel they have in common with him the characteristic of being an awkward, introverted weirdo.
Right, I get that, but you still want your hero to be a better version of you, something to aspire to. And Morrissey's ardent love of celebrity is very traditional; he's no punk purist who wants to kill rock stars. So I can't imagine he wouldn't seek to promote idolatry amongst his fans.
He always looked incredibly embarrassed when fans would jump on stage and hug him. But then to me it always felt staged and in reality he was loving it.
Yeah, that's been my conclusion.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 5:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:56pm
Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:20pm


Weird for someone with the reputation for being a god to his most ardent fans. You expect a frontman be to be, not necessarily polished, but a rapport with the audience.
I think one of the reasons people like him is that they feel they have in common with him the characteristic of being an awkward, introverted weirdo.
Right, I get that, but you still want your hero to be a better version of you, something to aspire to. And Morrissey's ardent love of celebrity is very traditional; he's no punk purist who wants to kill rock stars. So I can't imagine he wouldn't seek to promote idolatry amongst his fans.
He always looked incredibly embarrassed when fans would jump on stage and hug him. But then to me it always felt staged and in reality he was loving it.
Yeah, that's been my conclusion.
I know someone who is friends with one of his bodyguards.

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revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 5:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:56pm
Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:29pm


I think one of the reasons people like him is that they feel they have in common with him the characteristic of being an awkward, introverted weirdo.
Right, I get that, but you still want your hero to be a better version of you, something to aspire to. And Morrissey's ardent love of celebrity is very traditional; he's no punk purist who wants to kill rock stars. So I can't imagine he wouldn't seek to promote idolatry amongst his fans.
He always looked incredibly embarrassed when fans would jump on stage and hug him. But then to me it always felt staged and in reality he was loving it.
Yeah, that's been my conclusion.
I know someone who is friends with one of his bodyguards.
Stories? Rumours? Gossips?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:04pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 5:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:56pm


Right, I get that, but you still want your hero to be a better version of you, something to aspire to. And Morrissey's ardent love of celebrity is very traditional; he's no punk purist who wants to kill rock stars. So I can't imagine he wouldn't seek to promote idolatry amongst his fans.
He always looked incredibly embarrassed when fans would jump on stage and hug him. But then to me it always felt staged and in reality he was loving it.
Yeah, that's been my conclusion.
I know someone who is friends with one of his bodyguards.
Stories? Rumours? Gossips?
Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.

I should also say that when this has been discussed I was fairly drunk Nd dont recall specifics. I did see pics. Basically the dude protecting Moz from overzealous fans on stage.
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revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:04pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 5:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 May 2022, 4:59pm


He always looked incredibly embarrassed when fans would jump on stage and hug him. But then to me it always felt staged and in reality he was loving it.
Yeah, that's been my conclusion.
I know someone who is friends with one of his bodyguards.
Stories? Rumours? Gossips?
Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.
The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:13pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:04pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 5:12pm


Yeah, that's been my conclusion.
I know someone who is friends with one of his bodyguards.
Stories? Rumours? Gossips?
Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.
The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
As does any right minded person. But as I mentioned in my addendum my memories are somewhat hazy

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revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:15pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:13pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:04pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 6:59pm


I know someone who is friends with one of his bodyguards.
Stories? Rumours? Gossips?
Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.
The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
As does any right minded person.
I remember how that poll vote went. We are surrounded by dubious characters here.
But as I mentioned in my addendum my memories are somewhat hazy
The only rumour that I really recall about Morrissey that countered his image was about his supposed celibacy. Which, duh, no huge shock there. And that he was gay. Which, again, isn't exactly shocking.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:20pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:15pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:13pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:04pm


Stories? Rumours? Gossips?
Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.
The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
As does any right minded person.
I remember how that poll vote went. We are surrounded by dubious characters here.
But as I mentioned in my addendum my memories are somewhat hazy
The only rumour that I really recall about Morrissey that countered his image was about his supposed celibacy. Which, duh, no huge shock there. And that he was gay. Which, again, isn't exactly shocking.
Yes I was drunk but definitely not a topic of discussion.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:20pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:15pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:13pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:04pm


Stories? Rumours? Gossips?
Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.
The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
As does any right minded person.
I remember how that poll vote went. We are surrounded by dubious characters here.
But as I mentioned in my addendum my memories are somewhat hazy
The only rumour that I really recall about Morrissey that countered his image was about his supposed celibacy. Which, duh, no huge shock there. And that he was gay. Which, again, isn't exactly shocking.
I've read a number of sources that cite his having dated both men and women. Who knows the extent of that though.
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Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:41pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:20pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:15pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:13pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:09pm


Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.
The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
As does any right minded person.
I remember how that poll vote went. We are surrounded by dubious characters here.
But as I mentioned in my addendum my memories are somewhat hazy
The only rumour that I really recall about Morrissey that countered his image was about his supposed celibacy. Which, duh, no huge shock there. And that he was gay. Which, again, isn't exactly shocking.
I've read a number of sources that cite his having dated both men and women. Who knows the extent of that though.
If he were bisexual or pansexual, none of it would surprise. The celibacy thing and "I'll always be alone" are the only parts that come off as contrived.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:43pm
Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:41pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:20pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:15pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:13pm


The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
As does any right minded person.
I remember how that poll vote went. We are surrounded by dubious characters here.
But as I mentioned in my addendum my memories are somewhat hazy
The only rumour that I really recall about Morrissey that countered his image was about his supposed celibacy. Which, duh, no huge shock there. And that he was gay. Which, again, isn't exactly shocking.
I've read a number of sources that cite his having dated both men and women. Who knows the extent of that though.
If he were bisexual or pansexual, none of it would surprise. The celibacy thing and "I'll always be alone" are the only parts that come off as contrived.
I'm sure it all stemmed from an early case of performance anxiety.
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Kory wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:41pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:20pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:15pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:13pm
revbob wrote:
12 May 2022, 7:09pm


Let's just say my opinions have been reinforced.
The bodyguard said "Paranoid" is fucking immense?
As does any right minded person.
I remember how that poll vote went. We are surrounded by dubious characters here.
But as I mentioned in my addendum my memories are somewhat hazy
The only rumour that I really recall about Morrissey that countered his image was about his supposed celibacy. Which, duh, no huge shock there. And that he was gay. Which, again, isn't exactly shocking.
I've read a number of sources that cite his having dated both men and women. Who knows the extent of that though.
Im sure both hated him equally afterwards.

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