The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

[Marky Dread]

Marr plays on a Rourke band song: https://consequence.net/2022/11/johnny- ... g-forever/

I really want to like anything that Andy does - and even more so when Johnny is involved - but it's a struggle.

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

[Dr. Medulla]

Marr plays on a Rourke band song: https://consequence.net/2022/11/johnny- ... g-forever/

I really want to like anything that Andy does - and even more so when Johnny is involved - but it's a struggle.

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

[Marky Dread]

Marr plays on a Rourke band song: https://consequence.net/2022/11/johnny- ... g-forever/

I really want to like anything that Andy does - and even more so when Johnny is involved - but it's a struggle.

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

Yep agree whole heartedly. Great player but needs that spark from others.

[Kory]

Marr plays on a Rourke band song: https://consequence.net/2022/11/johnny- ... g-forever/

I really want to like anything that Andy does - and even more so when Johnny is involved - but it's a struggle.

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

[Dr. Medulla]

Marr plays on a Rourke band song: https://consequence.net/2022/11/johnny- ... g-forever/

I really want to like anything that Andy does - and even more so when Johnny is involved - but it's a struggle.

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

[Marky Dread]

I really want to like anything that Andy does - and even more so when Johnny is involved - but it's a struggle.

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I thought Electronic were okay but I remember how disappointed I was in buying Johnny Marr & The Healers "Boomslang". In fact that doesn't sound unlike that Andy Rourke track posted further up.

[Dr. Medulla]

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I thought Electronic were okay but I remember how disappointed I was in buying Johnny Marr & The Healers "Boomslang". In fact that doesn't sound unlike that Andy Rourke track posted further up.

Oh god, Boomslang. I'm pretty sure I've heard it once and thought, huh, okay, Morrissey definitely won the split. I've revised my opinion since, but at the time …

[Marky Dread]

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I thought Electronic were okay but I remember how disappointed I was in buying Johnny Marr & The Healers "Boomslang". In fact that doesn't sound unlike that Andy Rourke track posted further up.

Oh god, Boomslang. I'm pretty sure I've heard it once and thought, huh, okay, Morrissey definitely won the split. I've revised my opinion since, but at the time …

It was an album that was like sub-par Oasis if you can get that poor. It felt like an album desperate to fit in with that time. Absolutely rubbish.

[Dr. Medulla]

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I thought Electronic were okay but I remember how disappointed I was in buying Johnny Marr & The Healers "Boomslang". In fact that doesn't sound unlike that Andy Rourke track posted further up.

Oh god, Boomslang. I'm pretty sure I've heard it once and thought, huh, okay, Morrissey definitely won the split. I've revised my opinion since, but at the time …

It was an album that was like sub-par Oasis if you can get that poor. It felt like an album desperate to fit in with that time. Absolutely rubbish.

Right. And I was so not that audience.

[Marky Dread]

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I thought Electronic were okay but I remember how disappointed I was in buying Johnny Marr & The Healers "Boomslang". In fact that doesn't sound unlike that Andy Rourke track posted further up.

Oh god, Boomslang. I'm pretty sure I've heard it once and thought, huh, okay, Morrissey definitely won the split. I've revised my opinion since, but at the time …

It was an album that was like sub-par Oasis if you can get that poor. It felt like an album desperate to fit in with that time. Absolutely rubbish.

Right. And I was so not that audience.

Just a case of Marr being caught up in that time and listening to the likes of Noel Gallagher telling him he was an inspiration.

But of course he's capable of way better than that dirge.

[Kory]

I really want to like anything that Andy does - and even more so when Johnny is involved - but it's a struggle.

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I haven't heard the newest one, but the previous stuff all sounds really samey to me. What I liked most about his Smiths work is the intricacy/cleverness of it, but all the solo stuff I've checked out doesn't really touch any of that.

[Dr. Medulla]

I thought Electronic were okay but I remember how disappointed I was in buying Johnny Marr & The Healers "Boomslang". In fact that doesn't sound unlike that Andy Rourke track posted further up.

Oh god, Boomslang. I'm pretty sure I've heard it once and thought, huh, okay, Morrissey definitely won the split. I've revised my opinion since, but at the time …

It was an album that was like sub-par Oasis if you can get that poor. It felt like an album desperate to fit in with that time. Absolutely rubbish.

Right. And I was so not that audience.

Just a case of Marr being caught up in that time and listening to the likes of Noel Gallagher telling him he was an inspiration.

But of course he's capable of way better than that dirge.

Such a strange thing that he'd feel that kind of pressure(?). Tho maybe so much success when you're very young can spark a bit of a pre-mid-life crisis and fear of not being hip.

[Kory]

Oh god, Boomslang. I'm pretty sure I've heard it once and thought, huh, okay, Morrissey definitely won the split. I've revised my opinion since, but at the time …

It was an album that was like sub-par Oasis if you can get that poor. It felt like an album desperate to fit in with that time. Absolutely rubbish.

Right. And I was so not that audience.

Just a case of Marr being caught up in that time and listening to the likes of Noel Gallagher telling him he was an inspiration.

But of course he's capable of way better than that dirge.

Such a strange thing that he'd feel that kind of pressure(?). Tho maybe so much success when you're very young can spark a bit of a pre-mid-life crisis and fear of not being hip.

That kind of pressure must be hard to ignore. It even happened to Bowie after Let's Dance.

[Dr. Medulla]

Sounds like the bastard child of Kasabian and Oasis. Average at best.

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I haven't heard the newest one, but the previous stuff all sounds really samey to me. What I liked most about his Smiths work is the intricacy/cleverness of it, but all the solo stuff I've checked out doesn't really touch any of that.

Fair, I suppose. I like them for how effortless they seem. Someone without anything to prove, accepting his rep and all instead of kind of hiding in other bands, and just making music. I confess that he's just a flat-out likeable person and so I want to like his records (the contrast to Morrissey probably plays a role in how I listen and want to like the records, tho it's not conscious).

[Kory]

I agree with oliver here. The little bits I've heard from AR post-Smiths have been, at best, a shrug. No denying his ability, but it required a specific context of people and the times for it to shine.

I feel the same about both Rourke and Marr, frankly.

You haven't dug Marr's recent records under his own name? I never got into Electronic or Modest Mouse, but I'm surprised how much I like his newest stuff. He seems like a dude who's just following his conscience and letting the old magic flow.

I haven't heard the newest one, but the previous stuff all sounds really samey to me. What I liked most about his Smiths work is the intricacy/cleverness of it, but all the solo stuff I've checked out doesn't really touch any of that.

Fair, I suppose. I like them for how effortless they seem. Someone without anything to prove, accepting his rep and all instead of kind of hiding in other bands, and just making music. I confess that he's just a flat-out likeable person and so I want to like his records (the contrast to Morrissey probably plays a role in how I listen and want to like the records, tho it's not conscious).

It actually falls kind of into the same category of a lot of recent Wire stuff in terms of it all sounding very similar to me. Roughly the same tempo for each song, the same rhythm, etc.