One reason among many.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Sep 2022, 2:30pmAh, that explains why Gene despised you so much.Kory wrote: ↑28 Sep 2022, 2:29pmI have custom plugs that I got at the audiologist. They have changeable filters.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Sep 2022, 10:17amI can't recall where Kory fell on the Great Earplug Debate, but this should clarify things some.
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And most of them shared by the community!Kory wrote: ↑28 Sep 2022, 2:32pmOne reason among many.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Sep 2022, 2:30pmAh, that explains why Gene despised you so much.Kory wrote: ↑28 Sep 2022, 2:29pmI have custom plugs that I got at the audiologist. They have changeable filters.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Sep 2022, 10:17amI can't recall where Kory fell on the Great Earplug Debate, but this should clarify things some.
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Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
I'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
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We all make choices in separating art from artist because, well, every artist does shit, says shit, and believes shit that we find objectionable. Some sins are minor and easy to overlook; some are big-ass elephants in the room. I don't look askance at people who still love Morrissey's music (Kory excepted for a whole lot of other reasons) if they're still good people and they can derive value in spite of what piece of shit the creator is. I have a hard time doing it now, but I still listen to Lydon (tho even that's less than before). Nobody ever buys the whole package and consumes it so passively. Enjoy it on your own terms and without guilt. (But you should probably pirate his stuff now.)
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Enjoy what you like mate. You can't change the fact that he's a dick. I'm sure I've travelled on a bus where the driver was a complete dick head but the bus still got me to my destination and the ride was enjoyable.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
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Well said.Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 1:11pmEnjoy what you like mate. You can't change the fact that he's a dick. I'm sure I've travelled on a bus where the driver was a complete dick head but the bus still got me to my destination and the ride was enjoyable.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
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Agree with this very much - do as you will but one possible line to draw is to continue to enjoy and appreciate the work that made you a fan in the first place, but back away from the new stuff entirely or, at a minimum, economically.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 12:10pmWe all make choices in separating art from artist because, well, every artist does shit, says shit, and believes shit that we find objectionable. Some sins are minor and easy to overlook; some are big-ass elephants in the room. I don't look askance at people who still love Morrissey's music (Kory excepted for a whole lot of other reasons) if they're still good people and they can derive value in spite of what piece of shit the creator is. I have a hard time doing it now, but I still listen to Lydon (tho even that's less than before). Nobody ever buys the whole package and consumes it so passively. Enjoy it on your own terms and without guilt. (But you should probably pirate his stuff now.)
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I'm very surprised to find that Cave likes Morrissey's music, I would not have guessed that. I also relate to your closeted fan note, especially where it relates to Woody Allen. Aside from the obvious fracas every time his name is brought up, you can't even correct the scads of misinformation surrounding him without being accused of condoning all of it.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
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I actually see a connection in Cave's songwriting and performance to Morrissey's. They work from similar places.Kory wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 2:54pmI'm very surprised to find that Cave likes Morrissey's music, I would not have guessed that. I also relate to your closeted fan note, especially where it relates to Woody Allen. Aside from the obvious fracas every time his name is brought up, you can't even correct the scads of misinformation surrounding him without being accused of condoning all of it.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
I'd have bet money on Cave thinking Morrissey was a whiner.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 3:18pmI actually see a connection in Cave's songwriting and performance to Morrissey's. They work from similar places.Kory wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 2:54pmI'm very surprised to find that Cave likes Morrissey's music, I would not have guessed that. I also relate to your closeted fan note, especially where it relates to Woody Allen. Aside from the obvious fracas every time his name is brought up, you can't even correct the scads of misinformation surrounding him without being accused of condoning all of it.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
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What they sometimes share is the sound of the wounded observer.Kory wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 3:24pmI'd have bet money on Cave thinking Morrissey was a whiner.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 3:18pmI actually see a connection in Cave's songwriting and performance to Morrissey's. They work from similar places.Kory wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 2:54pmI'm very surprised to find that Cave likes Morrissey's music, I would not have guessed that. I also relate to your closeted fan note, especially where it relates to Woody Allen. Aside from the obvious fracas every time his name is brought up, you can't even correct the scads of misinformation surrounding him without being accused of condoning all of it.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
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Likewise, nobody has shamed me into not liking much of Allen's work yet, though Manhattan is just a step too far. Heck, while I'm at it, i even heard a Clapton track on the radio last week that i had to admit i really damned liked.Kory wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 2:54pmI'm very surprised to find that Cave likes Morrissey's music, I would not have guessed that. I also relate to your closeted fan note, especially where it relates to Woody Allen. Aside from the obvious fracas every time his name is brought up, you can't even correct the scads of misinformation surrounding him without being accused of condoning all of it.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Now YOU'VE gone too farLow Down Low wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 3:40pmLikewise, nobody has shamed me into not liking much of Allen's work yet, though Manhattan is just a step too far. Heck, while I'm at it, i even heard a Clapton track on the radio last week that i had to admit i really damned liked.Kory wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 2:54pmI'm very surprised to find that Cave likes Morrissey's music, I would not have guessed that. I also relate to your closeted fan note, especially where it relates to Woody Allen. Aside from the obvious fracas every time his name is brought up, you can't even correct the scads of misinformation surrounding him without being accused of condoning all of it.WestwayKid wrote: ↑10 Oct 2022, 11:52amI'm going through a Morrissey kick right now and it's been tough to be a Morrissey fan these last few years (cue the jokers who will tell me it's always been tough to be a Morrissey fan) because he's turned into such a dick. I struggle with this. Should I keep enjoying his music (and I really do like it) or cut the guy loose because of his terrible views?
I thought Nick Cave did a good job discussing the Morrissey-turned-rightwing-hack question on his blog:
"Morrissey’s political opinion becomes irrelevant. Whatever inanities he may postulate, we cannot overlook the fact that he has written a vast and extraordinary catalogue, which has enhanced the lives of his many fans beyond recognition. This is no small thing. He has created original and distinctive works of unparalleled beauty, that will long outlast his offending political alliances."
"I still believe that despite how upsetting Morrissey’s views may be to the marginalised and dispossessed members of society, or anyone else for that matter, he still should have the freedom to express his views, just as others should have the freedom to challenge them—even if just to know in what guise their enemy may appear. The charge that defending a person’s right to their opinions somehow aligns one with their views makes no sense at all and strikes at the heart of the problem itself—that of conflating the concept of free speech with bigotry. This is very dangerous territory indeed."
"Perhaps it is better to simply let Morrissey have his views, challenge them when and wherever possible, but allow his music to live on, bearing in mind we are all conflicted individuals—messy, flawed and prone to lunacies. We should thank God that there are some among us that create works of beauty beyond anything most of us can barely imagine, even as some of those same people fall prey to regressive and dangerous belief systems."
I almost feel at times like I've become a closeted fan, unwilling to discuss my fandom with friends and family. Maybe this is the bigger question of separating the artist from their art, but something I've been thinking about these past few days as I've been listening to his music.
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A good friend of mine teaches Jewish history and culture and had abandoned talking about Woody Allen's work because the amount of qualifying that he feels he has to do isn't worth it.
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