Yes, though I don't know if he'd identify SW as the instigator of funk if Marr and Rourke were writing to go with it. He might think he found himself in some funk band unexpectedly and go back to working with Billy Duffy or something.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Apr 2020, 6:06pmOr just shoved SW out. Wasn't Morrissey the prime instigator for dumping Rourke over his heroin addiction?
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It depends, I suppose, on whether he thought his bond with Marr was greater than Marr's with Rourke.Kory wrote: ↑20 Apr 2020, 6:26pmYes, though I don't know if he'd identify SW as the instigator of funk if Marr and Rourke were writing to go with it. He might think he found himself in some funk band unexpectedly and go back to working with Billy Duffy or something.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Apr 2020, 6:06pmOr just shoved SW out. Wasn't Morrissey the prime instigator for dumping Rourke over his heroin addiction?
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This video premiered today on Morrissey’s official YouTube channel. I was at this show. Nice to relive it.
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Nice when I could still relate to him.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑22 May 2020, 5:28pmThis video premiered today on Morrissey’s official YouTube channel. I was at this show. Nice to relive it.
I was at this one from the same year.
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Yes, that’s a great one. I received a VHS copy of this show back then. Alain’s finger(s) were bleeding, but he played on.
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I think they were a very solid band.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑22 May 2020, 6:48pmYes, that’s a great one. I received a VHS copy of this show back then. Alain’s finger(s) were bleeding, but he played on.
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From the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."
We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.
At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
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All of which is likely true, but he no longer enjoys the benefit of the doubt. The arrow has moved enough overall that when an interpretation can be made, plenty are inclined to see the darker side with him. It might not be fair, but he's earned it.oliver wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 9:42amFrom the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."
We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.
At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
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I truly don't know what to make of him anymore. I personally believe many of his views are based on what he thinks will be provocative. He used to be really good at it, but has increasingly seemed out of touch.oliver wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 9:42amFrom the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."
We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.
At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
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There is the old advice that when people try to show you who they are, believe them. Maybe he (and Lydon) changed, maybe we read in them what we wanted to see. Regardless, they made their choices about who they are and so do we.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 9:25amI truly don't know what to make of him anymore. I personally believe many of his views are based on what he thinks will be provocative. He used to be really good at it, but has increasingly seemed out of touch.oliver wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 9:42amFrom the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."
We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.
At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
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I think this is the biggest part of it. Morrissey was held up as some kind of representative for outsiders, but his lyrics have never been anything other than personal. He never said that he wanted to speak for anyone else or be anyone's messiah (although he did relish it of course). People saw what they wanted to about a profoundly selfish man.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 10:27ammaybe we read in them what we wanted to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 9:25amI truly don't know what to make of him anymore. I personally believe many of his views are based on what he thinks will be provocative. He used to be really good at it, but has increasingly seemed out of touch.oliver wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 9:42amFrom the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."
We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.
At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
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Sadly, yes.Kory wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 6:21pmI think this is the biggest part of it. Morrissey was held up as some kind of representative for outsiders, but his lyrics have never been anything other than personal. He never said that he wanted to speak for anyone else or be anyone's messiah (although he did relish it of course). People saw what they wanted to about a profoundly selfish man.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 10:27ammaybe we read in them what we wanted to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 9:25amI truly don't know what to make of him anymore. I personally believe many of his views are based on what he thinks will be provocative. He used to be really good at it, but has increasingly seemed out of touch.oliver wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 9:42amFrom the article:
"As a cherry on that toxic cake, he even released a T-shirt of a cop beating the hell out of someone."
We all know Morrissey has some "complicated" views but this t-shirt is an anti-police brutality statement that says, quite clearly, "who will protect us from the police?" underneath the picture.
At his live shows he projects images of police brutality when he plays his anti-police song called called Ganglord. I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is in support of violence before. It's a quite bizarre take on it.
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