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Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 1:15pm
by Kory


This was fun to watch. It's crazy to consider that, since pretty much all their songs were composed instrumentally first and then given to Morrissey, Marr has such a crazy sense of innate harmony to write something this dense and then think "yeah, somebody can write something over the top of this."

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 1:25pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:15pm


This was fun to watch. It's crazy to consider that, since pretty much all their songs were composed instrumentally first and then given to Morrissey, Marr has such a crazy sense of innate harmony to write something this dense and then think "yeah, somebody can write something over the top of this."
As much as Morrissey repels me, Johnny Marr makes sure I'll never really walk away from the Smiths.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 2:19pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:25pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:15pm


This was fun to watch. It's crazy to consider that, since pretty much all their songs were composed instrumentally first and then given to Morrissey, Marr has such a crazy sense of innate harmony to write something this dense and then think "yeah, somebody can write something over the top of this."
As much as Morrissey repels me, Johnny Marr makes sure I'll never really walk away from the Smiths.
A lot of it has to do with Andy Rourke for me, he doesn't get NEARLY enough credit for what he did for that band.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 2:28pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:25pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:15pm


This was fun to watch. It's crazy to consider that, since pretty much all their songs were composed instrumentally first and then given to Morrissey, Marr has such a crazy sense of innate harmony to write something this dense and then think "yeah, somebody can write something over the top of this."
As much as Morrissey repels me, Johnny Marr makes sure I'll never really walk away from the Smiths.
A lot of it has to do with Andy Rourke for me, he doesn't get NEARLY enough credit for what he did for that band.
The rhythm section as a whole was superb. Rourke gave things a slightly funky sound that added extra pep.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:28pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:25pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:15pm


This was fun to watch. It's crazy to consider that, since pretty much all their songs were composed instrumentally first and then given to Morrissey, Marr has such a crazy sense of innate harmony to write something this dense and then think "yeah, somebody can write something over the top of this."
As much as Morrissey repels me, Johnny Marr makes sure I'll never really walk away from the Smiths.
A lot of it has to do with Andy Rourke for me, he doesn't get NEARLY enough credit for what he did for that band.
The rhythm section as a whole was superb. Rourke gave things a slightly funky sound that added extra pep.
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 2:53pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:28pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:25pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:15pm


This was fun to watch. It's crazy to consider that, since pretty much all their songs were composed instrumentally first and then given to Morrissey, Marr has such a crazy sense of innate harmony to write something this dense and then think "yeah, somebody can write something over the top of this."
As much as Morrissey repels me, Johnny Marr makes sure I'll never really walk away from the Smiths.
A lot of it has to do with Andy Rourke for me, he doesn't get NEARLY enough credit for what he did for that band.
The rhythm section as a whole was superb. Rourke gave things a slightly funky sound that added extra pep.
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Get someone to edit out Morrissey and create special all-instrumental Smiths albums, and I'm on board that train.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 3:11pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:53pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:28pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 1:25pm


As much as Morrissey repels me, Johnny Marr makes sure I'll never really walk away from the Smiths.
A lot of it has to do with Andy Rourke for me, he doesn't get NEARLY enough credit for what he did for that band.
The rhythm section as a whole was superb. Rourke gave things a slightly funky sound that added extra pep.
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Get someone to edit out Morrissey and create special all-instrumental Smiths albums, and I'm on board that train.
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Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 3:20pm
by oliver
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Just a small point but Mike Joyce was in punk bands before The Smiths. The funk band was Johnny and Andy (Freak Party) with Simon Wolstencroft on drums.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 3:32pm
by Kory
oliver wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:20pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Just a small point but Mike Joyce was in punk bands before The Smiths. The funk band was Johnny and Andy (Freak Party) with Simon Wolstencroft on drums.
Yeah, I was just talking about the two stringmen.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 3:38pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:11pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:53pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:28pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:19pm


A lot of it has to do with Andy Rourke for me, he doesn't get NEARLY enough credit for what he did for that band.
The rhythm section as a whole was superb. Rourke gave things a slightly funky sound that added extra pep.
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Get someone to edit out Morrissey and create special all-instrumental Smiths albums, and I'm on board that train.
Image
Apologist.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 4:02pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:38pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:11pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:53pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:28pm


The rhythm section as a whole was superb. Rourke gave things a slightly funky sound that added extra pep.
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Get someone to edit out Morrissey and create special all-instrumental Smiths albums, and I'm on board that train.
Image
Apologist.
I prefer dispassionate.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 4:15pm
by oliver
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:32pm
oliver wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:20pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Just a small point but Mike Joyce was in punk bands before The Smiths. The funk band was Johnny and Andy (Freak Party) with Simon Wolstencroft on drums.
Yeah, I was just talking about the two stringmen.
Ahh.. got it. I always wonder how different The Smiths might have sounded with SW on drums - maybe it would have influenced more of JMs funk side.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 4:24pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 4:02pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:38pm
Apologist.
I prefer dispassionate.
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Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 4:40pm
by Kory
oliver wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 4:15pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:32pm
oliver wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:20pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Just a small point but Mike Joyce was in punk bands before The Smiths. The funk band was Johnny and Andy (Freak Party) with Simon Wolstencroft on drums.
Yeah, I was just talking about the two stringmen.
Ahh.. got it. I always wonder how different The Smiths might have sounded with SW on drums - maybe it would have influenced more of JMs funk side.
My guess would be Morrissey would have left the band.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 20 Apr 2020, 6:06pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 4:40pm
oliver wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 4:15pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:32pm
oliver wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 3:20pm
Kory wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 2:46pm
It was a good job they were both in that funk band before the Smiths. Also from a harmonic perspective, his work with counterpoint made their stuff so layered. You can get lost.
Just a small point but Mike Joyce was in punk bands before The Smiths. The funk band was Johnny and Andy (Freak Party) with Simon Wolstencroft on drums.
Yeah, I was just talking about the two stringmen.
Ahh.. got it. I always wonder how different The Smiths might have sounded with SW on drums - maybe it would have influenced more of JMs funk side.
My guess would be Morrissey would have left the band.
Or just shoved SW out. Wasn't Morrissey the prime instigator for dumping Rourke over his heroin addiction?