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Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 6:39pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:18pm
Low in High School is better than Maladjusted. As is Years of Refusal.
Southpaw Grammar was the last album I liked. Which I liked a lot. Then, the cliff.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 7:21pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:39pm
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:18pm
Low in High School is better than Maladjusted. As is Years of Refusal.
Southpaw Grammar was the last album I liked. Which I liked a lot. Then, the cliff.
I liked Refusal because it was pretty rockin'. I don't think we'll see something with that kind of muscle again. Quarry was so-so, better than Maladjusted, but the lyrics aren't that great. Tormentors took a while to warm up to, but I like it more now. World Peace was forgettable other than the title track and The Bullfighter Dies. I've been trying to find stuff from Alain Whyte's band Red Lightning to see how instrumental he was in the quality of Moz songs, but it's rare stuff.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 7:47pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 7:21pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:39pm
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:18pm
Low in High School is better than Maladjusted. As is Years of Refusal.
Southpaw Grammar was the last album I liked. Which I liked a lot. Then, the cliff.
I liked Refusal because it was pretty rockin'. I don't think we'll see something with that kind of muscle again. Quarry was so-so, better than Maladjusted, but the lyrics aren't that great. Tormentors took a while to warm up to, but I like it more now. World Peace was forgettable other than the title track and The Bullfighter Dies. I've been trying to find stuff from Alain Whyte's band Red Lightning to see how instrumental he was in the quality of Moz songs, but it's rare stuff.
I made half-hearted stabs at all the post-Maladjusted albums on a few different occasions. I admit I went in not expecting much, but nothing suggested he successfully made the transition to the 21st century. Another way that he's like Lydon, I suppose.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 8:15pm
by oliver
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 7:21pm
I liked Refusal because it was pretty rockin'. I don't think we'll see something with that kind of muscle again. Quarry was so-so, better than Maladjusted, but the lyrics aren't that great. Tormentors took a while to warm up to, but I like it more now. World Peace was forgettable other than the title track and The Bullfighter Dies. I've been trying to find stuff from Alain Whyte's band Red Lightning to see how instrumental he was in the quality of Moz songs, but it's rare stuff.
I think Boy George and I are the only ones who love Maladjusted.
My problem with World Peace is that the 6 bonus tracks on the deluxe version are better than the 6 weakest tracks on the album so it's such a missed opportunity.

Have you heard 'Johnny Panic and the Bible of Dreams' - Alain Whytes band from 2005ish? They're hard to find anything on because when you search you either end up with Sylvia Plath or Tears for Fears.


Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 8:15pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 7:47pm
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 7:21pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:39pm
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:18pm
Low in High School is better than Maladjusted. As is Years of Refusal.
Southpaw Grammar was the last album I liked. Which I liked a lot. Then, the cliff.
I liked Refusal because it was pretty rockin'. I don't think we'll see something with that kind of muscle again. Quarry was so-so, better than Maladjusted, but the lyrics aren't that great. Tormentors took a while to warm up to, but I like it more now. World Peace was forgettable other than the title track and The Bullfighter Dies. I've been trying to find stuff from Alain Whyte's band Red Lightning to see how instrumental he was in the quality of Moz songs, but it's rare stuff.
I made half-hearted stabs at all the post-Maladjusted albums on a few different occasions. I admit I went in not expecting much, but nothing suggested he successfully made the transition to the 21st century. Another way that he's like Lydon, I suppose.
Didn't like the most recent PiL stuff?

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 8:30pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 8:15pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 7:47pm
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 7:21pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:39pm
Kory wrote:
25 Feb 2021, 6:18pm
Low in High School is better than Maladjusted. As is Years of Refusal.
Southpaw Grammar was the last album I liked. Which I liked a lot. Then, the cliff.
I liked Refusal because it was pretty rockin'. I don't think we'll see something with that kind of muscle again. Quarry was so-so, better than Maladjusted, but the lyrics aren't that great. Tormentors took a while to warm up to, but I like it more now. World Peace was forgettable other than the title track and The Bullfighter Dies. I've been trying to find stuff from Alain Whyte's band Red Lightning to see how instrumental he was in the quality of Moz songs, but it's rare stuff.
I made half-hearted stabs at all the post-Maladjusted albums on a few different occasions. I admit I went in not expecting much, but nothing suggested he successfully made the transition to the 21st century. Another way that he's like Lydon, I suppose.
Didn't like the most recent PiL stuff?
The musicians were strong (arguably the best band he's assembled), the music comme ci comme ca, but Lydon just doesn't have an effective voice anymore. I'm not sure a non-fan would be persuaded by any of it.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 2:59pm
by oliver


Tom Lennon and Joe Manganiella being involved makes me think this might be decent

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 3:21pm
by WestwayKid
oliver wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 2:59pm


Tom Lennon and Joe Manganiella being involved makes me think this might be decent
I'll give it a chance. Having the actual music is a big plus.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 3:24pm
by WestwayKid
oliver wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 2:59pm


Tom Lennon and Joe Manganiella being involved makes me think this might be decent
Lennon is a big Smiths/Morrissey fan.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 4:09pm
by oliver
WestwayKid wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 3:24pm
Lennon is a big Smiths/Morrissey fan.
Yep - and Lt. Dangle is one of my favourite TV characters ever.

Manganiella is a big fan too. He's been talking about this film and how he's been wanting to make it for years.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
by Kory
oliver wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 2:59pm


Tom Lennon and Joe Manganiella being involved makes me think this might be decent
Weird to show the entire movie in the trailer. Didn't Airheads already cover this plot?

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 5:48pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
oliver wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 2:59pm


Tom Lennon and Joe Manganiella being involved makes me think this might be decent
Weird to show the entire movie in the trailer. Didn't Airheads already cover this plot?
The premise is pretty much Airheads. I watched that, tho, and I'd watch this.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 5:59pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 5:48pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
oliver wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 2:59pm


Tom Lennon and Joe Manganiella being involved makes me think this might be decent
Weird to show the entire movie in the trailer. Didn't Airheads already cover this plot?
The premise is pretty much Airheads. I watched that, tho, and I'd watch this.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm going to watch it. I will say it seems real damn earnest though.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 6:17pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 5:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 5:48pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
oliver wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 2:59pm


Tom Lennon and Joe Manganiella being involved makes me think this might be decent
Weird to show the entire movie in the trailer. Didn't Airheads already cover this plot?
The premise is pretty much Airheads. I watched that, tho, and I'd watch this.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm going to watch it. I will say it seems real damn earnest though.
To be fair, the stereotypical Smiths fan is embarrassingly earnest, more Morrissey than Mike Joyce.

Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread

Posted: 05 Mar 2021, 7:49pm
by oliver
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 4:55pm
Weird to show the entire movie in the trailer. Didn't Airheads already cover this plot?
It's supposedly an event that really took place but I'm not sure it's ever been verified. You'd think someone would have looked up the people involved by now if it wasn't apocryphal. Morrissey wrote about it in Autobiography so maybe they think the premise is already out there.