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Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 23 Mar 2021, 10:34am
by WestwayKid
Listening to some Johnny Marr solo albums right now. I'll never get tired of listening to him play guitar.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 23 Mar 2021, 10:38am
by Dr. Medulla
WestwayKid wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 10:34am
Listening to some Johnny Marr solo albums right now. I'll never get tired of listening to him play guitar.
I didn't care for that 90s band he formed (The Heaters?), but the records he's put out the last few years have been fun reminders of what that guy can do. Makes it easier to forget about that other guy.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 23 Mar 2021, 11:03am
by WestwayKid
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 10:38am
WestwayKid wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021, 10:34am
Listening to some Johnny Marr solo albums right now. I'll never get tired of listening to him play guitar.
I didn't care for that 90s band he formed (The Heaters?), but the records he's put out the last few years have been fun reminders of what that guy can do. Makes it easier to forget about that other guy.
The Healers. I also didn't care that much for it, but yeah - his more recent LPs have been great. I saw him live in 2019 - maybe the last live show I saw before the pandemic. It was awesome. It's great that he's thriving as a solo performer.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 25 Mar 2021, 7:33pm
by Dr. Medulla
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 1:17pm
by Kory
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 2:32pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 1:17pm
Predictable.
The film or the review?
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 2:41pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 2:32pm
Kory wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 1:17pm
Predictable.
The film or the review?
The film, you could see some of this coming from the trailer.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 2:47pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 2:41pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 2:32pm
Kory wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 1:17pm
Predictable.
The film or the review?
The film, you could see some of this coming from the trailer.
In no small part, what made the Smiths appealing doesn't especially jibe with the times. Obsessive fandom and why-not-me? navel gazing seems especially shallow today, where awareness of the real tragedies of others is elevated. What made the Smiths work was the times they could play off, and I'm skeptical that our current period is conducive to making that seem anything but seriously self-indulgent.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
by oliver
I saw this last night. I wish I'd have seen it in a proper movie theatre with a real sound system but since I live in an area that elected Marjorie Taylor-Greene, the chances of anywhere showing it are about as likely as Toby Keith doing a PETA ad.
It's hard for me to criticize anything that is basically wall-to-wall Smiths music or footage of Morrissey/Marr being interviewed (mostly from the South Bank Show in '87) but some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
I think the phrase is: "for fans only"
Nice cameo from Jose Maldonado though :)
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 10:27am
by Dr. Medulla
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 11:01am
by Olaf
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
I live in an area that elected Marjorie Taylor-Greene
Really? Never had you down as a Southerner. In fact, in my head I hear you talking in a Manc accent.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 8:07pm
by oliver
Olaf wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 11:01am
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
I live in an area that elected Marjorie Taylor-Greene
Really? Never had you down as a Southerner. In fact, in my head I hear you talking in a Manc accent.
Expat - originally from London
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 8:13pm
by oliver
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:27am
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
That might very well be in the deleted scenes on the bluray.
Most disappointing part was Tom Lennon clearly only being available for one day of shooting so is only in one scene. He plays the obnoxious owner of the record store and the scene ends with his employee saying 'there were times when I could have murdered him'
Think of that x 90 minutes :)
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 8:22pm
by Dr. Medulla
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 8:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:27am
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
That might very well be in the deleted scenes on the bluray.
Most disappointing part was Tom Lennon clearly only being available for one day of shooting so is only in one scene. He plays the obnoxious owner of the record store and the scene ends with his employee saying 'there were times when I could have murdered him'
Think of that x 90 minutes :)
Oh lord. I know that I'll eventually watch this, but this is valuable foreknowledge. If I go in with a certain hate-watch perspective, I might enjoy it more.
Re: The All Smiths/Morrissey Thread
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 8:24pm
by WestwayKid
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 8:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:27am
oliver wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:14am
some of the dialogue is so shoe-horned in to make a Smiths reference it's almost laughable. You can predict the lyric from the situation a mile off.
As in?
"Hey, Jeremy."
"Why are you so sad, Polly?"
"My grandma died."
"She was old and she would have died anyway."
That might very well be in the deleted scenes on the bluray.
Most disappointing part was Tom Lennon clearly only being available for one day of shooting so is only in one scene. He plays the obnoxious owner of the record store and the scene ends with his employee saying 'there were times when I could have murdered him'
Think of that x 90 minutes :)
Ick.
The Smiths meant a lot to me when I was a kid. I probably couldn't write a movie that truly articulated what they meant to me, but I pray it would not be as ham fisted as this.