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Flex wrote:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
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My question is for people to come up with alternate "most perfect moments," whether it's a song, album, performance, or year. As always, show your work.
Okay, thought about this. This is obvious, but "That's All Right" by Elvis. It exploded everything and propelled rock and roll as we know it. Dangerous, rocking, and sexy. That's All Right still feels both historic and timeless when you listen to it (and people still listen to it, for pleasure, which is wild for a music that theoretically was designed to be disposable). Somehow Elvis channeled the subconscious tensions of America and sublimated it into a single that literally changed the course of music. Incredible.
There's definite appeal there because it has that figurative spark aspect. A couple people hear it at the end of a frustrating evening of running thru songs, and then realize there's something there and record it. Then the acetate is sent to be played on Dewey Phillips' radio show, where who knows how many listeners—a few hundred?—bombard him with phone calls to play it over and over. The number of people involved is stupidly small. Which could be used as a criticism—the significance rests on the assessment of a small number of people during a relatively short period of time—but there's such a romance to the story. Anything worthwhile needs a compelling origin myth, and rock n roll got one right there.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 7:28pm
There's definite appeal there because it has that figurative spark aspect. A couple people hear it at the end of a frustrating evening of running thru songs, and then realize there's something there and record it. Then the acetate is sent to be played on Dewey Phillips' radio show, where who knows how many listeners—a few hundred?—bombard him with phone calls to play it over and over. The number of people involved is stupidly small. Which could be used as a criticism—the significance rests on the assessment of a small number of people during a relatively short period of time—but there's such a romance to the story. Anything worthwhile needs a compelling origin myth, and rock n roll got one right there.
This all also applies to "Do the Clam" btw :shifty:
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Flex wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 7:30pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 7:28pm
There's definite appeal there because it has that figurative spark aspect. A couple people hear it at the end of a frustrating evening of running thru songs, and then realize there's something there and record it. Then the acetate is sent to be played on Dewey Phillips' radio show, where who knows how many listeners—a few hundred?—bombard him with phone calls to play it over and over. The number of people involved is stupidly small. Which could be used as a criticism—the significance rests on the assessment of a small number of people during a relatively short period of time—but there's such a romance to the story. Anything worthwhile needs a compelling origin myth, and rock n roll got one right there.
This all also applies to "Do the Clam" btw :shifty:
I assume you meant to say "Fort Lauderdale Chamber of Commerce."
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 7:37pm
I assume you meant to say "Fort Lauderdale Chamber of Commerce."
Incredible how many perfect moments Elvis had in him.
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Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
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Flex wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 7:38pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
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I assume you meant to say "Fort Lauderdale Chamber of Commerce."
Incredible how many perfect moments Elvis had in him.
An old friend who was an Elvis fan, we'd get together to drink and watch Elvis movies, and whenever he did something Elvis-y, we were obliged to yell, "Yay Elvis!"
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Nobody is going to agree with me on this, but everything about the Depeche Mode song "Wrong" is perfect. I love it so much because it was made later in their career, it's one of Martin Gore's darkest songs (and that says a lot) and the video is probably the most chilling thing I have ever seen. I also love the crack/vocal fry in Dave's voice when the first verse starts.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 3:00pm
My offering: The Sex Pistols release "God Save the Queen," a song about marginalization, vengeance, and liberation, with a sound that matches that snarl. And it does what rock music is supposed to do—scare the fuck out of the people in charge and energize the young and alienated. So scary that the charts were rigged to deny it the #1 spot during the Jubilee. It fulfills everything that rock music promised and still sends a chill up my spine when I hear it.
On the flip side of that I have always been moved by Rotten’s “do you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated” mike drop at the Winterland to end the Pistols. Perfect piece of RnR.

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Flex wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 7:30pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 7:28pm
There's definite appeal there because it has that figurative spark aspect. A couple people hear it at the end of a frustrating evening of running thru songs, and then realize there's something there and record it. Then the acetate is sent to be played on Dewey Phillips' radio show, where who knows how many listeners—a few hundred?—bombard him with phone calls to play it over and over. The number of people involved is stupidly small. Which could be used as a criticism—the significance rests on the assessment of a small number of people during a relatively short period of time—but there's such a romance to the story. Anything worthwhile needs a compelling origin myth, and rock n roll got one right there.
This all also applies to "Do the Clam" btw :shifty:
Do the Clam is incredible. 👺

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101Walterton wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 3:00pm
My offering: The Sex Pistols release "God Save the Queen," a song about marginalization, vengeance, and liberation, with a sound that matches that snarl. And it does what rock music is supposed to do—scare the fuck out of the people in charge and energize the young and alienated. So scary that the charts were rigged to deny it the #1 spot during the Jubilee. It fulfills everything that rock music promised and still sends a chill up my spine when I hear it.
On the flip side of that I have always been moved by Rotten’s “do you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated” mike drop at the Winterland to end the Pistols. Perfect piece of RnR.
I did a lecture on post-Watergate 70s America that began with that clip and ended with Reagan asking in 1980 if Americans believed they were better off than four years ago. It's the same question searching for the same answer: yes, we've been fucked over. It captures the root nature of punk and hip hop, that understanding, deep down, that things could and should be better. Man, as much as Lydon annoys and disappoints me now when he opens his yap, from 76 to 80 or 81 his voice mattered.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:27pm
101Walterton wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 3:00pm
My offering: The Sex Pistols release "God Save the Queen," a song about marginalization, vengeance, and liberation, with a sound that matches that snarl. And it does what rock music is supposed to do—scare the fuck out of the people in charge and energize the young and alienated. So scary that the charts were rigged to deny it the #1 spot during the Jubilee. It fulfills everything that rock music promised and still sends a chill up my spine when I hear it.
On the flip side of that I have always been moved by Rotten’s “do you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated” mike drop at the Winterland to end the Pistols. Perfect piece of RnR.
I did a lecture on post-Watergate 70s America that began with that clip and ended with Reagan asking in 1980 if Americans believed they were better off than four years ago. It's the same question searching for the same answer: yes, we've been fucked over. It captures the root nature of punk and hip hop, that understanding, deep down, that things could and should be better. Man, as much as Lydon annoys and disappoints me now when he opens his yap, from 76 to 80 or 81 his voice mattered.
My guitarist started getting exasperated with my opinion on life and said "under every cynic is a disappointed idealist." To which I replied that I never said that I wasn't both of those things. That shut him up good and proper (which was a great thing for me).
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Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:04pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:27pm
101Walterton wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 3:00pm
My offering: The Sex Pistols release "God Save the Queen," a song about marginalization, vengeance, and liberation, with a sound that matches that snarl. And it does what rock music is supposed to do—scare the fuck out of the people in charge and energize the young and alienated. So scary that the charts were rigged to deny it the #1 spot during the Jubilee. It fulfills everything that rock music promised and still sends a chill up my spine when I hear it.
On the flip side of that I have always been moved by Rotten’s “do you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated” mike drop at the Winterland to end the Pistols. Perfect piece of RnR.
I did a lecture on post-Watergate 70s America that began with that clip and ended with Reagan asking in 1980 if Americans believed they were better off than four years ago. It's the same question searching for the same answer: yes, we've been fucked over. It captures the root nature of punk and hip hop, that understanding, deep down, that things could and should be better. Man, as much as Lydon annoys and disappoints me now when he opens his yap, from 76 to 80 or 81 his voice mattered.
My guitarist started getting exasperated with my opinion on life and said "under every cynic is a disappointed idealist." To which I replied that I never said that I wasn't both of those things. That shut him up good and proper (which was a great thing for me).
So he meant it as an insult? That's … strange.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:16pm
Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:04pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:27pm
101Walterton wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 3:00pm
My offering: The Sex Pistols release "God Save the Queen," a song about marginalization, vengeance, and liberation, with a sound that matches that snarl. And it does what rock music is supposed to do—scare the fuck out of the people in charge and energize the young and alienated. So scary that the charts were rigged to deny it the #1 spot during the Jubilee. It fulfills everything that rock music promised and still sends a chill up my spine when I hear it.
On the flip side of that I have always been moved by Rotten’s “do you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated” mike drop at the Winterland to end the Pistols. Perfect piece of RnR.
I did a lecture on post-Watergate 70s America that began with that clip and ended with Reagan asking in 1980 if Americans believed they were better off than four years ago. It's the same question searching for the same answer: yes, we've been fucked over. It captures the root nature of punk and hip hop, that understanding, deep down, that things could and should be better. Man, as much as Lydon annoys and disappoints me now when he opens his yap, from 76 to 80 or 81 his voice mattered.
My guitarist started getting exasperated with my opinion on life and said "under every cynic is a disappointed idealist." To which I replied that I never said that I wasn't both of those things. That shut him up good and proper (which was a great thing for me).
So he meant it as an insult? That's … strange.
I think he was trying to say that there may be something behind my cynicism that I wasn't consciously aware of. Not so much an insult as something like "haha you're not as dark as you like to think you are."
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Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:16pm
Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:04pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:27pm
101Walterton wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:03pm


On the flip side of that I have always been moved by Rotten’s “do you ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated” mike drop at the Winterland to end the Pistols. Perfect piece of RnR.
I did a lecture on post-Watergate 70s America that began with that clip and ended with Reagan asking in 1980 if Americans believed they were better off than four years ago. It's the same question searching for the same answer: yes, we've been fucked over. It captures the root nature of punk and hip hop, that understanding, deep down, that things could and should be better. Man, as much as Lydon annoys and disappoints me now when he opens his yap, from 76 to 80 or 81 his voice mattered.
My guitarist started getting exasperated with my opinion on life and said "under every cynic is a disappointed idealist." To which I replied that I never said that I wasn't both of those things. That shut him up good and proper (which was a great thing for me).
So he meant it as an insult? That's … strange.
I think he was trying to say that there may be something behind my cynicism that I wasn't consciously aware of. Not so much an insult as something like "haha you're not as dark as you like to think you are."
Chop off one of his fingers with a meat cleaver and let him mull over your character.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:38pm
Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:16pm
Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:04pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 4:27pm


I did a lecture on post-Watergate 70s America that began with that clip and ended with Reagan asking in 1980 if Americans believed they were better off than four years ago. It's the same question searching for the same answer: yes, we've been fucked over. It captures the root nature of punk and hip hop, that understanding, deep down, that things could and should be better. Man, as much as Lydon annoys and disappoints me now when he opens his yap, from 76 to 80 or 81 his voice mattered.
My guitarist started getting exasperated with my opinion on life and said "under every cynic is a disappointed idealist." To which I replied that I never said that I wasn't both of those things. That shut him up good and proper (which was a great thing for me).
So he meant it as an insult? That's … strange.
I think he was trying to say that there may be something behind my cynicism that I wasn't consciously aware of. Not so much an insult as something like "haha you're not as dark as you like to think you are."
Chop off one of his fingers with a meat cleaver and let him mull over your character.
I'll start with the pinkie.
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Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 6:52pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:38pm
Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:16pm
Kory wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 5:04pm


My guitarist started getting exasperated with my opinion on life and said "under every cynic is a disappointed idealist." To which I replied that I never said that I wasn't both of those things. That shut him up good and proper (which was a great thing for me).
So he meant it as an insult? That's … strange.
I think he was trying to say that there may be something behind my cynicism that I wasn't consciously aware of. Not so much an insult as something like "haha you're not as dark as you like to think you are."
Chop off one of his fingers with a meat cleaver and let him mull over your character.
I'll start with the pinkie.
You'll be a rock n roll god.
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