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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 02 May 2019, 7:39pm
by revbob
Heston wrote:
02 May 2019, 2:17pm
I don't care what key it's in, where it's come from, where it's been...
Just how old it is... :shifty:

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 02 May 2019, 9:04pm
by Marky Dread
revbob wrote:
02 May 2019, 7:39pm
Heston wrote:
02 May 2019, 2:17pm
I don't care what key it's in, where it's come from, where it's been...
Just how old it is... :shifty:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

The Heston pledge "not before '64".

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 04 May 2019, 6:40pm
by 101Walterton
Marky Dread wrote:
29 Apr 2019, 4:27am
Oh Shit - Buzzcocks
Love You More - Buzzcocks
Protex Blue - The Clash
Career Opportunities - The Clash
What's My Name - The Clash
1977 - The Clash
So Messed Up - The Damned
Stretcher Case - The Damned
Machine Gun Etiquette (Second Time Around) - The Damned
Sick of This and That - The Damned
Banana Splits - The Dickies
You Drive Me Ape (You Big Gorilla) - The Dickies
Give It Back - The Dickies
Sounds of Silence - The Dickies
Child Star - The Diodes
Lights Out - Dr. Feelgood
Shake - Eddie & the Hot Rods
C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran
Twenty Flight Rock - Eddie Cochran
Summertime Blues - Eddie Cochran
Mystery Dance - Elvis Costello
Welcome to the Working Week - Elvis Costello
My Funny Valentine - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
The Imposter - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Beaten to the Punch - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Hoover Factory - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Why Don't You Love Me (Like You Used To Do)? - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
That's All Right - Elvis Presley
All Shook Up - Elvis Presley
Hole in My Heart - Esquerita
Wait and See - Fats Domino
Say Mama - Gene Vincent
I've Got My Eyes On You - Gene Vincent
No No No - Generation X
Do Da Da - Green Day
Nosferatu - Hugh Cornwell
Every Everything - Hüsker Dü
Hate Paper Doll - Hüsker Dü
Terms Of Psychic Warfare - Hüsker Dü
Actual Condition - Hüsker Dü
Batman Theme - The Jam
London Traffic - The Jam
In the Street Today - The Jam
But I'm Different Now - The Jam
Medley: Rip It Up/Ready Teddy - John Lennon
I'd Rather Be With The Boys - Johnny Thunders
M.I.A. - Johnny Thunders
But She's Mine - John's Children
You're Cold - The Jolt
You... - Julian Cope
Revenge - The Kinks
Come On Now - The Kinks
She Said Yeah - Larry Williams
Feelin' - The La's
Son of a Gun - The La's
Bit Part - The Lemonheads
Alison's Starting to Happen - The Lemonheads
Mayday - The Libertines
Skag & Bone Man - The Libertines
Ooh! My Soul - Little Richard
That's What I Want - Long Tall Shorty
1970s Boy - Long Tall Shorty
Shadow of Fear - Madness
Benny Bullfrog - Madness
Damn Dog - Manic Street Preachers
Shock Rock - T. Rex
Country Honey - T. Rex
Explosive Mouth - T. Rex
Hot George - T. Rex
New Years Day - Mega City Four
Start - Mega City Four
You Can't Keep A Good Man Down - The Meteors
Radioactive Kid - The Meteors
She's So (Out of Touch) - The Mighty Lemon Drops
Blues Inside - The Mighty Lemon Drops
Bite the Bullet - Motörhead
Take That Away - Moving Targets
Unwind - Moving Targets
Fumble - Moving Targets
I Don't Want the Night to End - Nick Lowe
As My Says - The Only Ones
Something Against You - Pixies
Isla De Encanta - Pixies
Tame - Pixies
There Goes My Gun - Pixies
Rock Music - Pixies
Allison - Pixies
Make Believe - Pixies
Theme from Narc - Pixies
Trmpe Le Monde - Pixies
Don't Push - The Polecats
Night of the Nazgul - The Prisoners
Ain't No Tellin' - The Prisoners
Burn My Eye '78 - Radio Birdman
22 Grand Job - The Rakes
Judy is a Punk - Ramones
Chain Saw - Ramones
Havana Affair - Ramones
Gimme Gimme Shock Treatment - Ramones
Commando - Ramones
Cretin Hop - Ramones
I Don't Care - Ramones
Careless - The Replacements
Customer - The Replacements
Don't Ask Why - The Replacements
Shut Up - The Replacements
Raised in the City - The Replacements
Run It - The Replacements
You Lose - The Replacements
Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked in Tonight - The Rezillos
New Pleasure - Richard Hell & the Voidoids
Insect Mother - Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians
Criminal Mind - The Ruts
Out of Order - The Ruts
Society - The Ruts
Demolition Girl - The Saints
Good and Gone - The Screaming Blue Messiahs
Shoplifting - Senseless Things
Teenage - Senseless Things
Hey Little Rich Boy - Sham 69
Open Sound - Skids
Shoplifting - The Slits
What'Cha Gonna Do About It - Small Faces
Just Passing - Small Faces
Become Like You - Small Faces
I Keep Mine Hidden - The Smiths
No Change - Stiff Little Fingers
Mean to Me - The Stranglers
Shut Up - The Stranglers
Time to Go - Supergrass
Never Done Nothing Like That Before - Supergrass
Satan - Teenage Fanclub
Hardcore/Ballad - Teenage Fanclub
Save Me - The Tourists
Another English Day - The Tourists
He Who Laughs Last Laughs Longest - The Tourists
Stranglehold - U.K. Subs
C.I.D. - U.K. Subs
Ultravox! - Quirks
I Gotta Getta - The Undertones
Male Model - The Undertones
Here Comes the Summer - The Undertones
True Confessions - The Undertones
Boys Will Be Boys - The Undertones
Julie Ocean - The Undertones
No Heart - The Vibrators
Wrecked On You - The Vibrators
Bad Time - The Vibrators
Wake Up - The Vibrators
Bottle Up & Go - Wilko Johnson
Rags and Tatters - Wreckless Eric
Do What You Do - XTC
New Town Animal In A Furnished Cage - XTC
Psycho Daisies - The Yardbirds
No Pity - 999
My Street Stinks - 999
I think I just cross threaded.
Thought that was your sub 2 mins song list just realised it wasn’t. Anyway.....

No Action - Elvis Costello & The Attractions

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 04 May 2019, 6:47pm
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote:
04 May 2019, 6:40pm
Marky Dread wrote:
29 Apr 2019, 4:27am
Oh Shit - Buzzcocks
Love You More - Buzzcocks
Protex Blue - The Clash
Career Opportunities - The Clash
What's My Name - The Clash
1977 - The Clash
So Messed Up - The Damned
Stretcher Case - The Damned
Machine Gun Etiquette (Second Time Around) - The Damned
Sick of This and That - The Damned
Banana Splits - The Dickies
You Drive Me Ape (You Big Gorilla) - The Dickies
Give It Back - The Dickies
Sounds of Silence - The Dickies
Child Star - The Diodes
Lights Out - Dr. Feelgood
Shake - Eddie & the Hot Rods
C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran
Twenty Flight Rock - Eddie Cochran
Summertime Blues - Eddie Cochran
Mystery Dance - Elvis Costello
Welcome to the Working Week - Elvis Costello
My Funny Valentine - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
The Imposter - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Beaten to the Punch - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Hoover Factory - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Why Don't You Love Me (Like You Used To Do)? - Elvis Costello & the Attractions
That's All Right - Elvis Presley
All Shook Up - Elvis Presley
Hole in My Heart - Esquerita
Wait and See - Fats Domino
Say Mama - Gene Vincent
I've Got My Eyes On You - Gene Vincent
No No No - Generation X
Do Da Da - Green Day
Nosferatu - Hugh Cornwell
Every Everything - Hüsker Dü
Hate Paper Doll - Hüsker Dü
Terms Of Psychic Warfare - Hüsker Dü
Actual Condition - Hüsker Dü
Batman Theme - The Jam
London Traffic - The Jam
In the Street Today - The Jam
But I'm Different Now - The Jam
Medley: Rip It Up/Ready Teddy - John Lennon
I'd Rather Be With The Boys - Johnny Thunders
M.I.A. - Johnny Thunders
But She's Mine - John's Children
You're Cold - The Jolt
You... - Julian Cope
Revenge - The Kinks
Come On Now - The Kinks
She Said Yeah - Larry Williams
Feelin' - The La's
Son of a Gun - The La's
Bit Part - The Lemonheads
Alison's Starting to Happen - The Lemonheads
Mayday - The Libertines
Skag & Bone Man - The Libertines
Ooh! My Soul - Little Richard
That's What I Want - Long Tall Shorty
1970s Boy - Long Tall Shorty
Shadow of Fear - Madness
Benny Bullfrog - Madness
Damn Dog - Manic Street Preachers
Shock Rock - T. Rex
Country Honey - T. Rex
Explosive Mouth - T. Rex
Hot George - T. Rex
New Years Day - Mega City Four
Start - Mega City Four
You Can't Keep A Good Man Down - The Meteors
Radioactive Kid - The Meteors
She's So (Out of Touch) - The Mighty Lemon Drops
Blues Inside - The Mighty Lemon Drops
Bite the Bullet - Motörhead
Take That Away - Moving Targets
Unwind - Moving Targets
Fumble - Moving Targets
I Don't Want the Night to End - Nick Lowe
As My Says - The Only Ones
Something Against You - Pixies
Isla De Encanta - Pixies
Tame - Pixies
There Goes My Gun - Pixies
Rock Music - Pixies
Allison - Pixies
Make Believe - Pixies
Theme from Narc - Pixies
Trmpe Le Monde - Pixies
Don't Push - The Polecats
Night of the Nazgul - The Prisoners
Ain't No Tellin' - The Prisoners
Burn My Eye '78 - Radio Birdman
22 Grand Job - The Rakes
Judy is a Punk - Ramones
Chain Saw - Ramones
Havana Affair - Ramones
Gimme Gimme Shock Treatment - Ramones
Commando - Ramones
Cretin Hop - Ramones
I Don't Care - Ramones
Careless - The Replacements
Customer - The Replacements
Don't Ask Why - The Replacements
Shut Up - The Replacements
Raised in the City - The Replacements
Run It - The Replacements
You Lose - The Replacements
Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked in Tonight - The Rezillos
New Pleasure - Richard Hell & the Voidoids
Insect Mother - Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians
Criminal Mind - The Ruts
Out of Order - The Ruts
Society - The Ruts
Demolition Girl - The Saints
Good and Gone - The Screaming Blue Messiahs
Shoplifting - Senseless Things
Teenage - Senseless Things
Hey Little Rich Boy - Sham 69
Open Sound - Skids
Shoplifting - The Slits
What'Cha Gonna Do About It - Small Faces
Just Passing - Small Faces
Become Like You - Small Faces
I Keep Mine Hidden - The Smiths
No Change - Stiff Little Fingers
Mean to Me - The Stranglers
Shut Up - The Stranglers
Time to Go - Supergrass
Never Done Nothing Like That Before - Supergrass
Satan - Teenage Fanclub
Hardcore/Ballad - Teenage Fanclub
Save Me - The Tourists
Another English Day - The Tourists
He Who Laughs Last Laughs Longest - The Tourists
Stranglehold - U.K. Subs
C.I.D. - U.K. Subs
Ultravox! - Quirks
I Gotta Getta - The Undertones
Male Model - The Undertones
Here Comes the Summer - The Undertones
True Confessions - The Undertones
Boys Will Be Boys - The Undertones
Julie Ocean - The Undertones
No Heart - The Vibrators
Wrecked On You - The Vibrators
Bad Time - The Vibrators
Wake Up - The Vibrators
Bottle Up & Go - Wilko Johnson
Rags and Tatters - Wreckless Eric
Do What You Do - XTC
New Town Animal In A Furnished Cage - XTC
Psycho Daisies - The Yardbirds
No Pity - 999
My Street Stinks - 999
Can’t believe Ifound one you missed whilst listening to This Year Model!!

No Action - Elvis Costello & The Attractions
It's not that I missed it as such there were plenty of others that were under the 2 min mark. I just picked a few from each artist. Although ''No Action'' is a cracker. :approve:

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 07 May 2019, 8:43pm
by Inder
Continuing from Matey's point, I think a lot of the discussion about "appropriation" (especially online) is actually a critique of capitalism, consumerism and exploitation, but is being framed exclusively as an identity issue for some weird reason.

From my semi-qualified perspective (my doctoral thesis was on intercultural mixing and identity), I'd suggest there's a long history of productive cultural encounter on all sides with new and interesting ideas emerging (and, on the other hand, the Bosstones) from these interactions.

On the subject of music specifically, I'd suggest someone like Elvis wasn't a rich white kid copying black people's music and slapping together a merch empire. He was emulating the music he loved. The fact that he became immensely wealthy and popular while the black musicians who originated the form toiled in relative obscurity, and sometimes poverty, is more an indictment of exclusion and systemic inequality in America. IMO, even if he was an opportunistic huckster looking for a quick buck, the issue of appropriation would benefit from a renewed focus on exclusion and inequality/the conditions that elevate and marginalize certain peoples and communities, rather than telling people off for enjoying his music like some sort of asshole.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 08 May 2019, 1:19am
by Marky Dread
Inder wrote:
07 May 2019, 8:43pm
Continuing from Matey's point, I think a lot of the discussion about "appropriation" (especially online) is actually a critique of capitalism, consumerism and exploitation, but is being framed exclusively as an identity issue for some weird reason.

From my semi-qualified perspective (my doctoral thesis was on intercultural mixing and identity), I'd suggest there's a long history of productive cultural encounter on all sides with new and interesting ideas emerging (and, on the other hand, the Bosstones) from these interactions.

On the subject of music specifically, I'd suggest someone like Elvis wasn't a rich white kid copying black people's music and slapping together a merch empire. He was emulating the music he loved. The fact that he became immensely wealthy and popular while the black musicians who originated the form toiled in relative obscurity, and sometimes poverty, is more an indictment of exclusion and systemic inequality in America. IMO, even if he was an opportunistic huckster looking for a quick buck, the issue of appropriation would benefit from a renewed focus on exclusion and inequality/the conditions that elevate and marginalize certain peoples and communities, rather than telling people off for enjoying his music like some sort of asshole.
I agree with the points raised here. Plus you have to throw Colonel Tom Parker into the mix regards Elvis. Let's not also forget that it's no strict black / white divide issue as it's often perceived to be. Lots of great black artists became very wealthy playing rock n roll / Rhythm & Blues / Soul etc.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 08 May 2019, 6:11am
by Dr. Medulla
Inder wrote:
07 May 2019, 8:43pm
Continuing from Matey's point, I think a lot of the discussion about "appropriation" (especially online) is actually a critique of capitalism, consumerism and exploitation, but is being framed exclusively as an identity issue for some weird reason.

From my semi-qualified perspective (my doctoral thesis was on intercultural mixing and identity), I'd suggest there's a long history of productive cultural encounter on all sides with new and interesting ideas emerging (and, on the other hand, the Bosstones) from these interactions.

On the subject of music specifically, I'd suggest someone like Elvis wasn't a rich white kid copying black people's music and slapping together a merch empire. He was emulating the music he loved. The fact that he became immensely wealthy and popular while the black musicians who originated the form toiled in relative obscurity, and sometimes poverty, is more an indictment of exclusion and systemic inequality in America. IMO, even if he was an opportunistic huckster looking for a quick buck, the issue of appropriation would benefit from a renewed focus on exclusion and inequality/the conditions that elevate and marginalize certain peoples and communities, rather than telling people off for enjoying his music like some sort of asshole.
Very much agree with Inder here, especially about the confused nature of what is actually being critiqued. As well, placing to the two positions on opposite points on a spectrum, of integration/borrowing on one and segregation on the other, the latter ends up sitting nicely with Nazism and other hardcore racial politics. I'm not suggesting that if a person has a heightened sensitivity to cultural appropriation then they're buddies with Richard Spencer, but it's worth appreciating the stagnation that that position must lead to followed faithfully. Human beings are social and they're curious and creative. We benefit from that.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 08 May 2019, 1:28pm
by Inder
I can't remember if I linked to this the last appropriation came up, but Korla Pandit's story is fascinating and kind of hilarious.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 28 May 2019, 11:35am
by WestwayKid
Horribly overrated bands:

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 28 May 2019, 11:39am
by WestwayKid
I heard someone listening to The Doors last weekend and was struck by how awful I know find them. Crap poetry set to crap music. Yes - they are held up as absolute masters of rock. I'm certain the cult of Jim Morrison is largely responsible for that. He's seen by many as a cool leather pants wearing rebel who was more hip poet than rock singer. The reality - at least in my opinion - is that he was an obnoxious drunk and his "poetry" was 10th grade high school English class garbage. Yes, I went through my Doors phase when I was about 12-13, but I'm thankful I grew out of it. I will admit (however) that LA Woman is pretty good jam.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 28 May 2019, 11:49am
by Dr. Medulla
I respect their place within the larger cultural history of late 60s California and youth rebellion, but their music bores the hell out of me. The only way it could be worse is if Clapton joined them and did dueling solos with Manzarek.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 28 May 2019, 12:30pm
by Heston
Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 May 2019, 11:49am
I respect their place within the larger cultural history of late 60s California and youth rebellion, but their music bores the hell out of me. The only way it could be worse is if Clapton joined them and did dueling solos with Manzarek.
Ugh.

Always disliked the Doors. Not quite as much as Ku Klux Klapton, but they're up there with Pink Floyd on my overrated shitlist. .

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 28 May 2019, 12:42pm
by BitterTom
Pink Floyd
Nirvana
Oasis
Blur

I'm sure more will come to me.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 28 May 2019, 12:46pm
by Marky Dread
BitterTom wrote:
28 May 2019, 12:42pm
Pink Floyd
Nirvana
Oasis
Blur

I'm sure more will come to me.
Blur made some great songs. How much Floyd have you heard? The early stuff with Syd is exceptional.

Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Posted: 28 May 2019, 12:47pm
by revbob
Yeah them and the Verve.

Actually I like some Doors songs but yeah definitely the Verve. :shifty: