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Kory wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 12:59pm
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I would think going back to very early doo wop would not be far off. Earlier big band jazz groups tended to have names reflective of area they came from. The Ink Spots from early 30s are known as the fathers of doo wop and sold a ton of records, were also once known as the Percolating Puppies so i figure it was something they put some thought into. Though it possibly wasnt until the 50s when backing bands like the crickets and the comets were given recognition that it became a widespread practice. Just loose thoughts really.
Good insight, I have to listen to more doo wop.
I do too. As in you can never listen to enough. I love all those early vocal harmony groups, kind of half doo wop, half r n b like the delta rhythm boys, cathedral quartet. Frank Zappa actually recorded a doo wop album thats more fun than good, bit of doo wop in early beach boys as well.

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Low Down Low wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 2:12pm
Kory wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 12:59pm
Low Down Low wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 7:06am
I would think going back to very early doo wop would not be far off. Earlier big band jazz groups tended to have names reflective of area they came from. The Ink Spots from early 30s are known as the fathers of doo wop and sold a ton of records, were also once known as the Percolating Puppies so i figure it was something they put some thought into. Though it possibly wasnt until the 50s when backing bands like the crickets and the comets were given recognition that it became a widespread practice. Just loose thoughts really.
Good insight, I have to listen to more doo wop.
I do too. As in you can never listen to enough. I love all those early vocal harmony groups, kind of half doo wop, half r n b like the delta rhythm boys, cathedral quartet. Frank Zappa actually recorded a doo wop album thats more fun than good, bit of doo wop in early beach boys as well.
Is that the Ruben and the Jets one?
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Kory wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 2:26pm
Low Down Low wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 2:12pm
Kory wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 12:59pm
Low Down Low wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 7:06am
I would think going back to very early doo wop would not be far off. Earlier big band jazz groups tended to have names reflective of area they came from. The Ink Spots from early 30s are known as the fathers of doo wop and sold a ton of records, were also once known as the Percolating Puppies so i figure it was something they put some thought into. Though it possibly wasnt until the 50s when backing bands like the crickets and the comets were given recognition that it became a widespread practice. Just loose thoughts really.
Good insight, I have to listen to more doo wop.
I do too. As in you can never listen to enough. I love all those early vocal harmony groups, kind of half doo wop, half r n b like the delta rhythm boys, cathedral quartet. Frank Zappa actually recorded a doo wop album thats more fun than good, bit of doo wop in early beach boys as well.
Is that the Ruben and the Jets one?
Thats the one, listened to it a while back out of curiosity and cant say i was bowled over but would be willing to give it another try. Not very clued up on zappa to be honest, probably only time I've ever listened to him.

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there's recording of pre-fame zappa recording more "straight" doo wop, amongst other things. It's mostly not great, but kinda interesting.
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Low Down Low wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 2:33pm
Kory wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 2:26pm
Low Down Low wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 2:12pm
Kory wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 12:59pm
Low Down Low wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 7:06am
I would think going back to very early doo wop would not be far off. Earlier big band jazz groups tended to have names reflective of area they came from. The Ink Spots from early 30s are known as the fathers of doo wop and sold a ton of records, were also once known as the Percolating Puppies so i figure it was something they put some thought into. Though it possibly wasnt until the 50s when backing bands like the crickets and the comets were given recognition that it became a widespread practice. Just loose thoughts really.
Good insight, I have to listen to more doo wop.
I do too. As in you can never listen to enough. I love all those early vocal harmony groups, kind of half doo wop, half r n b like the delta rhythm boys, cathedral quartet. Frank Zappa actually recorded a doo wop album thats more fun than good, bit of doo wop in early beach boys as well.
Is that the Ruben and the Jets one?
Thats the one, listened to it a while back out of curiosity and cant say i was bowled over but would be willing to give it another try. Not very clued up on zappa to be honest, probably only time I've ever listened to him.
I've really only heard Hot Rats and Joe's Garage. Really like the former, LOATHE the latter, so I'm sure there's some in-between stuff I might like.
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I can't believe you aren't a heavy Zappa guy, Kory. He seems tailor made for you. If you like Hot Rats you should, first, check out the newly released Hot Rats Sessions and then I'd recommend just going through his albums in order (at least his 60s and 70s stuff). He went through so many different phases it's hard to pinpoint just one period you may like. If you want to skip around you may dig Zoot Allures, Waka/Jawaka and maybe something outside his usual canon like The Dub Room Special.
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I can't believe you aren't a heavy Zappa guy, Kory. He seems tailor made for you. If you like Hot Rats you should, first, check out the newly released Hot Rats Sessions and then I'd recommend just going through his albums in order (at least his 60s and 70s stuff). He went through so many different phases it's hard to pinpoint just one period you may like. If you want to skip around you may dig Zoot Allures, Waka/Jawaka and maybe something outside his usual canon like The Dub Room Special.
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Oh and as far as the Zappa doo-wop album: there are two versions out there. The original version and the very out of place 80s re-recorded rhythm section version that was put out when it went on CD.

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Flex wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 4:32pm
I can't believe you aren't a heavy Zappa guy, Kory. He seems tailor made for you. If you like Hot Rats you should, first, check out the newly released Hot Rats Sessions and then I'd recommend just going through his albums in order (at least his 60s and 70s stuff). He went through so many different phases it's hard to pinpoint just one period you may like. If you want to skip around you may dig Zoot Allures, Waka/Jawaka and maybe something outside his usual canon like The Dub Room Special.
I didn't like Zappa until someone turned me on to Joe's Garage. I really like those recordings, but still find his catalog hard to dig into because it's so diverse. There is some stuff I really like, some stuff I don't like at all, and some in between.
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Flex wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 4:32pm
I can't believe you aren't a heavy Zappa guy, Kory. He seems tailor made for you. If you like Hot Rats you should, first, check out the newly released Hot Rats Sessions and then I'd recommend just going through his albums in order (at least his 60s and 70s stuff). He went through so many different phases it's hard to pinpoint just one period you may like. If you want to skip around you may dig Zoot Allures, Waka/Jawaka and maybe something outside his usual canon like The Dub Room Special.
Yeah, Joe's Garage poisoned me against him basically, I found it so infuriatingly bad. I'll get to the other stuff some day probably, but that album is a hard hill to climb over.
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