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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by muppet hi fi » 22 May 2018, 10:10pm

Marky Dread wrote:
22 May 2018, 9:38pm
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Soft Machine
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Just enjoy whatever sounds good to your ears fuck prejudice.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Wolter » 22 May 2018, 10:50pm

muppet hi fi wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 May 2018, 9:38pm
Peter Hamill
Can
Neu!
Van Der Graff Generator
Some Floyd
Hawkwind and definitely The Hawklords.
Be Bop Deluxe
Eno (of course)
King Crimson
Robert Fripp
Amon Düül II
Atomic Rooster
Pink Fairies
Can
Cluster
Golden Earring
Super Furry Animals
Sparks
Some Vangelis
Soft Machine
Frank Zappa

Just enjoy whatever sounds good to your ears fuck prejudice.
Ace singer/songwriter list, mate! ;)
Ok. I laughed.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Marky Dread » 23 May 2018, 9:08am

Wolter wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:50pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 May 2018, 9:38pm
Peter Hamill
Can
Neu!
Van Der Graff Generator
Some Floyd
Hawkwind and definitely The Hawklords.
Be Bop Deluxe
Eno (of course)
King Crimson
Robert Fripp
Amon Düül II
Atomic Rooster
Pink Fairies
Can
Cluster
Golden Earring
Super Furry Animals
Sparks
Some Vangelis
Soft Machine
Frank Zappa

Just enjoy whatever sounds good to your ears fuck prejudice.
Ace singer/songwriter list, mate! ;)
Ok. I laughed.
Paul Carrack isn't on the list. Guess I missed the joke.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Kory » 23 May 2018, 8:18pm

Marky Dread wrote:
23 May 2018, 9:08am
Wolter wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:50pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 May 2018, 9:38pm
Peter Hamill
Can
Neu!
Van Der Graff Generator
Some Floyd
Hawkwind and definitely The Hawklords.
Be Bop Deluxe
Eno (of course)
King Crimson
Robert Fripp
Amon Düül II
Atomic Rooster
Pink Fairies
Can
Cluster
Golden Earring
Super Furry Animals
Sparks
Some Vangelis
Soft Machine
Frank Zappa

Just enjoy whatever sounds good to your ears fuck prejudice.
Ace singer/songwriter list, mate! ;)
Ok. I laughed.
Paul Carrack isn't on the list. Guess I missed the joke.
I normally think of Be Bop D as being more influenced by glam but having the best guitarist of them all—but I suppose they could fit in with prog as well.
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Post by eumaas » 23 May 2018, 10:57pm

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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Marky Dread » 24 May 2018, 2:58am

Kory wrote:
23 May 2018, 8:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
23 May 2018, 9:08am
Wolter wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:50pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:10pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 May 2018, 9:38pm
Peter Hamill
Can
Neu!
Van Der Graff Generator
Some Floyd
Hawkwind and definitely The Hawklords.
Be Bop Deluxe
Eno (of course)
King Crimson
Robert Fripp
Amon Düül II
Atomic Rooster
Pink Fairies
Can
Cluster
Golden Earring
Super Furry Animals
Sparks
Some Vangelis
Soft Machine
Frank Zappa

Just enjoy whatever sounds good to your ears fuck prejudice.
Ace singer/songwriter list, mate! ;)
Ok. I laughed.
Paul Carrack isn't on the list. Guess I missed the joke.
I normally think of Be Bop D as being more influenced by glam but having the best guitarist of them all—but I suppose they could fit in with prog as well.
I don't hear any of that glam rock stomp sound in BBD. If you compare Slade, Sweet an so on. Maybe some earlier Bowie/Ronno influence before Glam went all out bubblegum. But yeah Nelson is one hell of a musician.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by WestwayKid » 29 May 2018, 7:16am

Good morning! I was away this past weekend and promised myself I'd stay off of the internet...but here is a new question for discussion/opinion this week. I thought my last question was a bit too vague - so trying to narrow it down a bit to generate some good musical discussion!

What is your favorite Stones album that is NOT Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, or Exile?

BONUS QUESTION: Favorite album/obscure Stones track?

For album - I have to go with Goat's Head Soup. It's one that I find myself going to time and time again and I find the whole album is a solid listening experience. I think it gets "lost" in the fact that it followed an incredible string of albums - but it's really good. The recording sounds warm and it is a very mellow (for the most part) album. They sound a bit worn around the edges - but it plays into the warmth of the sound. Mick Taylor is allowed to really let loose on guitar and while Keith seems to be missing a bit - but when he does show up - he shines...but this LP really is Taylor's moment. It also feels like the end of an era - the moment before they truly became jaded, jet setting rock stars.

On a side note - I highly recommend picking up the "official" bootleg Brussels Affair from their 1973 European Tour. It's fantastic! There is a hard separation in the mix so if you turn the balance one way or another - you can hone in on Keith's playing and the guy is a machine. I've read that he was either completely on or completely off during that tour and this show captures him completely on. Taylor is on absolute fire - spitting out solos and licks like a man possessed. Jagger doesn't yet sound like a caricature. Charlie and Bill are tight (I really came to appreciate how solid Wyman was from listening to this album) and the sidemen like Preston really slot in perfectly.

For my favorite album/obscure track - it has to be Ride On Baby - a track I never really dug into until way too recently. A leftover from Aftermath - hard to believe this was only released on Flowers. Musically really interesting - Brian Jones apparently plays about 50 instruments! Stew's piano licks sound great countering the melody on the chorus and Jagger's delivers some really nasty (yet somehow perfect) lyrics with just the perfect amount of snarl, disdain, and boredom.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Marky Dread » 29 May 2018, 12:48pm

My favourite Stones album isn't any of those you mention. It's "After-math" UK edition. I also love "Their Satanic Majesties Request". But an album I play a hell of a lot is "Undercover" It's great from start to finish.

Bonus question : "Citadel" from "Their Satanic Majesties Request".
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by WestwayKid » 29 May 2018, 1:19pm

Marky Dread wrote:
29 May 2018, 12:48pm
My favourite Stones album isn't any of those you mention. It's "After-math" UK edition. I also love "Their Satanic Majesties Request". But an album I play a hell of a lot is "Undercover" It's great from start to finish.

Bonus question : "Citadel" from "Their Satanic Majesties Request".
Citadel is a fantastic track! It rocks - but it also sounds really creepy.

UK version of Aftermath is fantastic. I go back and forth between that one and the UK version of Buttons.

I have not listened to Undercover in several years - but I'll give it a spin one of these days.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by muppet hi fi » 29 May 2018, 5:33pm

Marky Dread wrote:
29 May 2018, 12:48pm
My favourite Stones album isn't any of those you mention. It's "After-math" UK edition. I also love "Their Satanic Majesties Request". But an album I play a hell of a lot is "Undercover" It's great from start to finish.

Bonus question : "Citadel" from "Their Satanic Majesties Request".
Hard for me to say, as I'm not just a fan-boy but a sort of patron of the Stones. But 'Undercover' is a personal fave, maybe top 5 if I was forced to chose ('Black and Blue' might be #1). The thing with 'Undercover' is how strong, and very dark, the songs are, and the potpuri of early '80s musical nods - deep funk, hip hop, dub reggae - that they make their own, which has always been part of their genius. But the mix is so crystaline slick and glossy as to give the album an unsettling, almost queasy or sickly feel. "Undercover of the Night", "Too Much Blood", "It Must Be Hell" - all with their cynical commentaries on Latin America, the military/industrial complex, poverty, extreme violence as entertainment, etc. - not to mention the disturbing, and again, cynical, images of sex and romantic relationships - make for a timeless bummer of an album that rocks and grooves mightily and could have been written 5 minutes ago. But in '83, you could see how it upset a lot of people as these old rich guys were beating a lot of the post-punk/new wave kids at their own game/s, as they actually had more life experience to draw from to present cynicism in uptempo, rocking, dancey, catchy camouflage. A nasty piece of work it is, and a worthy heir to 'Black and Blue' for similar reasons.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Wolter » 29 May 2018, 5:51pm

My favorite Stones album is their 60s singles after they started actually playing pop music.

My second favorite is Emotional Rescue.
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Post by Flex » 29 May 2018, 5:56pm

my Stones opinion is their body of work has probably become a little underrated. They're one of the all-time great rock singles bands, but they're also one of the all-time actually-really-quite-enjoyable-and-good rock album bands, too.

Check out this triptych of UK records: Out of Our Heads -> Aftermath -> Between the Buttons. To answer the question prompted, Aftermath gets my vote once you take away Beggar's Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile. But that's a three record sequence that rivals any other classic rock outfit's output, imho.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Wolter » 29 May 2018, 6:06pm

Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2018, 2:58am
Kory wrote:
23 May 2018, 8:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
23 May 2018, 9:08am
Wolter wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:50pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
22 May 2018, 10:10pm

Ace singer/songwriter list, mate! ;)
Ok. I laughed.
Paul Carrack isn't on the list. Guess I missed the joke.
I normally think of Be Bop D as being more influenced by glam but having the best guitarist of them all—but I suppose they could fit in with prog as well.
I don't hear any of that glam rock stomp sound in BBD. If you compare Slade, Sweet an so on. Maybe some earlier Bowie/Ronno influence before Glam went all out bubblegum. But yeah Nelson is one hell of a musician.
I think the trick here is that there is the Slade/Sweet/T. Rex stomping glam sound and then there’s the artier, doomed romantic ones that also tend to get tied to it, like Bowie/Roxy/Steve Harley. The latter ones definitely share some DNA with BBD. I think of BBD as glam-tinged prog with hooks.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Dr. Medulla » 29 May 2018, 6:12pm

Wolter wrote:
29 May 2018, 6:06pm
I think the trick here is that there is the Slade/Sweet/T. Rex stomping glam sound and then there’s the artier, doomed romantic ones that also tend to get tied to it, like Bowie/Roxy/Steve Harley. The latter ones definitely share some DNA with BBD. I think of BBD as glam-tinged prog with hooks.
Does it make sense, then, to mostly sidestep sound when talking about glam and say that its distinctiveness is visual? Can you confidently tell a glam record if you didn't have access to the sleeve? I'm not all that knowledgeable about glam because what I've heard never super-grabbed me—don't dislike it, don't love it—but whenever it's invoked, my thought is primarily visual.
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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...

Post by Marky Dread » 29 May 2018, 6:28pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 May 2018, 6:12pm
Wolter wrote:
29 May 2018, 6:06pm
I think the trick here is that there is the Slade/Sweet/T. Rex stomping glam sound and then there’s the artier, doomed romantic ones that also tend to get tied to it, like Bowie/Roxy/Steve Harley. The latter ones definitely share some DNA with BBD. I think of BBD as glam-tinged prog with hooks.
Does it make sense, then, to mostly sidestep sound when talking about glam and say that its distinctiveness is visual? Can you confidently tell a glam record if you didn't have access to the sleeve? I'm not all that knowledgeable about glam because what I've heard never super-grabbed me—don't dislike it, don't love it—but whenever it's invoked, my thought is primarily visual.
I think you mostly can be it all depending on which side of the Glam fence you find yourelf sitting. Glam rock is more than a visual thing. The pop side really focused on the 50's rock 'n' roll element in you can cram all you need in a great song under or around the 3 minutes required for radio. The artsier side that Wolt referred to earlier has no restrictions to sounding pop more than being off kilter with most other styles. People like Bowie went for both with acknowledging T. Rex and the Velvets.
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