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Marky Dread wrote:
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Surprised to see PiL and Sham 69 on the same line up supporting SLF. Be fun watching John and Jimmy having a punch up.🤣
Wow, when was the last time PiL was a support act? Back in the 80s during the McGeoch era?
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Marky Dread wrote:
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Surprised to see PiL and Sham 69 on the same line up supporting SLF. Be fun watching John and Jimmy having a punch up.🤣
Not until August - still plenty of time for this to implode. :mrgreen:
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Marky Dread wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 6:25pm
Surprised to see PiL and Sham 69 on the same line up supporting SLF. Be fun watching John and Jimmy having a punch up.🤣
I love SLF, but this is the punk version of Miles Davis supporting, like, George Benson.

He's lost some of that prestige that made PiL its own little island. Likely due to left leaning fans hating his heel turn toward the right.
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Silent Majority wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 3:35am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 6:25pm
Surprised to see PiL and Sham 69 on the same line up supporting SLF. Be fun watching John and Jimmy having a punch up.🤣
I love SLF, but this is the punk version of Miles Davis supporting, like, George Benson.

He's lost some of that prestige that made PiL its own little island. Likely due to left leaning fans hating his heel turn toward the right.
I'm curious how true that is. By which I mean I haven't encountered any online discussion where long-time fans express disgust, etc., unlike with, say, Morrissey. I'd find it plausible, but if there's been blowback, it's been low-key.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:19am
Silent Majority wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 3:35am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 6:25pm
Surprised to see PiL and Sham 69 on the same line up supporting SLF. Be fun watching John and Jimmy having a punch up.🤣
I love SLF, but this is the punk version of Miles Davis supporting, like, George Benson.

He's lost some of that prestige that made PiL its own little island. Likely due to left leaning fans hating his heel turn toward the right.
I'm curious how true that is. By which I mean I haven't encountered any online discussion where long-time fans express disgust, etc., unlike with, say, Morrissey. I'd find it plausible, but if there's been blowback, it's been low-key.
The only comments I've read have been on Facebook where they have been a mixed bag of those appalled at him wearing the MAGA cap and others annoyed regards the Pistols/Pistol series court case.

The last time I read anything about Pursey bumping into Lydon at an airport a few years back and holding out his hand to John didn't go down to well. Which is ironic as both parties had fallen out with Cook and Jones so they had that in common.
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Marky Dread wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:49am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:19am
Silent Majority wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 3:35am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 6:25pm
Surprised to see PiL and Sham 69 on the same line up supporting SLF. Be fun watching John and Jimmy having a punch up.🤣
I love SLF, but this is the punk version of Miles Davis supporting, like, George Benson.

He's lost some of that prestige that made PiL its own little island. Likely due to left leaning fans hating his heel turn toward the right.
I'm curious how true that is. By which I mean I haven't encountered any online discussion where long-time fans express disgust, etc., unlike with, say, Morrissey. I'd find it plausible, but if there's been blowback, it's been low-key.
The only comments I've read have been on Facebook where they have been a mixed bag of those appalled at him wearing the MAGA cap and others annoyed regards the Pistols/Pistol series court case.
I wonder if part of it can be explained that, whether he likes it or not, he's transitioned to an oldies act, despite still releasing new music. Morrissey is still considered an on-going figure. Plus, of course, Morrissey has always had a more intense relationship with his fans.
The last time I read anything about Pursey bumping into Lydon at an airport a few years back and holding out his hand to John didn't go down to well. Which is ironic as both parties had fallen out with Cook and Jones so they had that in common.
Oh bless you, Johnny, for not doing the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. You scorn everyone, you scamp! :lol:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 8:50am
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:49am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:19am
Silent Majority wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 3:35am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 6:25pm
Surprised to see PiL and Sham 69 on the same line up supporting SLF. Be fun watching John and Jimmy having a punch up.🤣
I love SLF, but this is the punk version of Miles Davis supporting, like, George Benson.

He's lost some of that prestige that made PiL its own little island. Likely due to left leaning fans hating his heel turn toward the right.
I'm curious how true that is. By which I mean I haven't encountered any online discussion where long-time fans express disgust, etc., unlike with, say, Morrissey. I'd find it plausible, but if there's been blowback, it's been low-key.
The only comments I've read have been on Facebook where they have been a mixed bag of those appalled at him wearing the MAGA cap and others annoyed regards the Pistols/Pistol series court case.
I wonder if part of it can be explained that, whether he likes it or not, he's transitioned to an oldies act, despite still releasing new music. Morrissey is still considered an on-going figure. Plus, of course, Morrissey has always had a more intense relationship with his fans.
The last time I read anything about Pursey bumping into Lydon at an airport a few years back and holding out his hand to John didn't go down to well. Which is ironic as both parties had fallen out with Cook and Jones so they had that in common.
Oh bless you, Johnny, for not doing the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. You scorn everyone, you scamp! :lol:
It's interesting that old lazy bugger has released 3 albums since 2012. Which is two more than SLF in the same period.
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Looks like they hadn't toured the states since 2018 and I'm sure they have less pull here than Europe, but I was surprised the size of the venues PIL played here. Specifically, they played (albeit two nights) at a smaller club that I just saw Hinds play a couple weeks ago. Also saw Titus Andronicus there a few years back.
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matedog wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 11:55am
Looks like they hadn't toured the states since 2018 and I'm sure they have less pull here than Europe, but I was surprised the size of the venues PIL played here. Specifically, they played (albeit two nights) at a smaller club that I just saw Hinds play a couple weeks ago. Also saw Titus Andronicus there a few years back.
A quick look shows that in '88 that played some decent-sized venues opening for INXS and in '89 as the middle band between Sugarcubes and New Order (the headliner).
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Marky Dread wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 10:03am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 8:50am
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:49am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:19am
Silent Majority wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 3:35am


I love SLF, but this is the punk version of Miles Davis supporting, like, George Benson.

He's lost some of that prestige that made PiL its own little island. Likely due to left leaning fans hating his heel turn toward the right.
I'm curious how true that is. By which I mean I haven't encountered any online discussion where long-time fans express disgust, etc., unlike with, say, Morrissey. I'd find it plausible, but if there's been blowback, it's been low-key.
The only comments I've read have been on Facebook where they have been a mixed bag of those appalled at him wearing the MAGA cap and others annoyed regards the Pistols/Pistol series court case.
I wonder if part of it can be explained that, whether he likes it or not, he's transitioned to an oldies act, despite still releasing new music. Morrissey is still considered an on-going figure. Plus, of course, Morrissey has always had a more intense relationship with his fans.
The last time I read anything about Pursey bumping into Lydon at an airport a few years back and holding out his hand to John didn't go down to well. Which is ironic as both parties had fallen out with Cook and Jones so they had that in common.
Oh bless you, Johnny, for not doing the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. You scorn everyone, you scamp! :lol:
It's interesting that old lazy bugger has released 3 albums since 2012. Which is two more than SLF in the same period.
I was just thinking about Lydon and Morrissey the other day. I'm done with Morrissey, other than to continue to enjoy his music, but I don't have the same level of scorn for Lydon. I'm not 100% sure why, however. They've both played important parts in my life, but I have more leniency for Johnny regarding his world views.
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WestwayKid wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 12:39pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 10:03am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 8:50am
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:49am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 7:19am


I'm curious how true that is. By which I mean I haven't encountered any online discussion where long-time fans express disgust, etc., unlike with, say, Morrissey. I'd find it plausible, but if there's been blowback, it's been low-key.
The only comments I've read have been on Facebook where they have been a mixed bag of those appalled at him wearing the MAGA cap and others annoyed regards the Pistols/Pistol series court case.
I wonder if part of it can be explained that, whether he likes it or not, he's transitioned to an oldies act, despite still releasing new music. Morrissey is still considered an on-going figure. Plus, of course, Morrissey has always had a more intense relationship with his fans.
The last time I read anything about Pursey bumping into Lydon at an airport a few years back and holding out his hand to John didn't go down to well. Which is ironic as both parties had fallen out with Cook and Jones so they had that in common.
Oh bless you, Johnny, for not doing the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. You scorn everyone, you scamp! :lol:
It's interesting that old lazy bugger has released 3 albums since 2012. Which is two more than SLF in the same period.
I was just thinking about Lydon and Morrissey the other day. I'm done with Morrissey, other than to continue to enjoy his music, but I don't have the same level of scorn for Lydon. I'm not 100% sure why, however. They've both played important parts in my life, but I have more leniency for Johnny regarding his world views.
I'm the same way in as much as I can still listen to PiL and the Pistols. Probably because Lydon used to mean more to me than Morrissey ever did. I'll rip the guy here and to anyone else who'll listen, but when he does pass I'll be sad and grateful that he emerged and inspired.
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Today marks the 49th anniversary of the Sex Pistols first gig.

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white man wrote:
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Today marks the 49th anniversary of the Sex Pistols first gig.
One piece of decent news today, thank you!
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Kory wrote:
06 Nov 2024, 8:22pm
white man wrote:
06 Nov 2024, 6:02pm
Today marks the 49th anniversary of the Sex Pistols first gig.
One piece of decent news today, thank you!
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Some original Pistols lyrics for swindle-like prices: https://www.nme.com/news/music/john-lyd ... on-3812145
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