Sex Pistols
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Re: Sex Pistols
Tell 'em they're all a bunch of fuckin' rotters.
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Thanks, dirty punks. If anything interesting results, I'll report back. Thursday is also a class discussion about punk's ambivalent relationship with race.
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Re: Sex Pistols
Don't forget to follow up with a Foo Fighters seminar.
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I will entitle it “4.33, Part II.”
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The Sex Pistols difficult third album is their best.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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The one that's all Peter Frampton covers? Yeesh, whatever, man.
"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back in Whittier, they're not much bigger than two meters.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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Oh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back in Whittier, they're not much bigger than two meters.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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Part street wise attitude and part intellect mixed with youthful arrogance. Railing against stupidity and out of date opinions and the mundane banality of life in the 70s. All this topped off with an other worldly quality at times pushed the Sex Pistols into another orbit. Outrageously fucking fantastic!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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Add in Lydon's self-awareness that the class system was built to keep kids like him quiet and docile, yet he had that innate intelligence and resentment, plus a means of expressing it.Marky Dread wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 7:31pmPart street wise attitude and part intellect mixed with youthful arrogance. Railing against stupidity and out of date opinions and the mundane banality of life in the 70s. All this topped off with an other worldly quality at times pushed the Sex Pistols into another orbit. Outrageously fucking fantastic!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back in Whittier, they're not much bigger than two meters.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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I wonder if they look at you the same way I looked at my music teacher at school when he lectured us on The Beatles with your Pistols enthusiasmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
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There are a few in the front rows who smile and pretend my enthusiasm isn't just pathetic dorkiness, but most are really stony-faced. I can't judge them too harshly because when I was a student I was the sullen asshead in the back. It's a helluva lot easier to lecture when your audience is reacting, whether positively or negatively. But I'm self-contained enough that I can always plough thru without much hesitation. I go into performer mode and genuinely enjoy talking about whatever I'm talking about. I honestly don't understand my colleagues who hate the classroom. C'mon, this shit should be fun to talk about.101Walterton wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 7:43pmI wonder if they look at you the same way I looked at my music teacher at school when he lectured us on The Beatles with your Pistols enthusiasmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back in Whittier, they're not much bigger than two meters.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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Hello,Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 8:26pmThere are a few in the front rows who smile and pretend my enthusiasm isn't just pathetic dorkiness, but most are really stony-faced. I can't judge them too harshly because when I was a student I was the sullen asshead in the back. It's a helluva lot easier to lecture when your audience is reacting, whether positively or negatively. But I'm self-contained enough that I can always plough thru without much hesitation. I go into performer mode and genuinely enjoy talking about whatever I'm talking about. I honestly don't understand my colleagues who hate the classroom. C'mon, this shit should be fun to talk about.101Walterton wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 7:43pmI wonder if they look at you the same way I looked at my music teacher at school when he lectured us on The Beatles with your Pistols enthusiasmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
Two part response:
Lydon has such courage and self-belief. As I recall, every rock star at that time wanted to be liked and wouldn't dare challenge anything. His courage, conviction, and charisma (how's that for alliteration?) were new and have still been untouched. No one then (and no one now, for that matter) could sing/shout "We mean it, maaaan!" with that same attitude - Lydon challenged the listener. Name a contemporary group/band/singer that challenges the audience.
I'm much luckier than you in some regard. My favorite class is Sport and Exercise Psychology as I sometimes find myself getting so excited about the material that many students get drawn in as they see application to their own lives and experiences - plus I get really involved in stories about my own experiences and applications. Your material may lend itself better to grad students provided they aren't afraid to become engaged. Maybe project video's from youtube with lyrics and require students to sing along? Class karaoke to break that wall?
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I would have loved such a class but when I look back to music class in middle school where the teachers spoke just as enthusiastically about classical composers and no they weren't getting much traction with a bunch of 13-14 year olds.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 8:26pmThere are a few in the front rows who smile and pretend my enthusiasm isn't just pathetic dorkiness, but most are really stony-faced. I can't judge them too harshly because when I was a student I was the sullen asshead in the back. It's a helluva lot easier to lecture when your audience is reacting, whether positively or negatively. But I'm self-contained enough that I can always plough thru without much hesitation. I go into performer mode and genuinely enjoy talking about whatever I'm talking about. I honestly don't understand my colleagues who hate the classroom. C'mon, this shit should be fun to talk about.101Walterton wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 7:43pmI wonder if they look at you the same way I looked at my music teacher at school when he lectured us on The Beatles with your Pistols enthusiasmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
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No that is what my music teacher tried to do at school. He was trying to make us sing O Bla Dee, Maxwel’s Silver Hammer and Yellow Submarine when we were all listening to the Pistols.gkbill wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 11:12pmHello,Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 8:26pmThere are a few in the front rows who smile and pretend my enthusiasm isn't just pathetic dorkiness, but most are really stony-faced. I can't judge them too harshly because when I was a student I was the sullen asshead in the back. It's a helluva lot easier to lecture when your audience is reacting, whether positively or negatively. But I'm self-contained enough that I can always plough thru without much hesitation. I go into performer mode and genuinely enjoy talking about whatever I'm talking about. I honestly don't understand my colleagues who hate the classroom. C'mon, this shit should be fun to talk about.101Walterton wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 7:43pmI wonder if they look at you the same way I looked at my music teacher at school when he lectured us on The Beatles with your Pistols enthusiasmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
Two part response:
Lydon has such courage and self-belief. As I recall, every rock star at that time wanted to be liked and wouldn't dare challenge anything. His courage, conviction, and charisma (how's that for alliteration?) were new and have still been untouched. No one then (and no one now, for that matter) could sing/shout "We mean it, maaaan!" with that same attitude - Lydon challenged the listener. Name a contemporary group/band/singer that challenges the audience.
I'm much luckier than you in some regard. My favorite class is Sport and Exercise Psychology as I sometimes find myself getting so excited about the material that many students get drawn in as they see application to their own lives and experiences - plus I get really involved in stories about my own experiences and applications. Your material may lend itself better to grad students provided they aren't afraid to become engaged. Maybe project video's from youtube with lyrics and require students to sing along? Class karaoke to break that wall?
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I guess the equivalent now would be someone trying to get the kids interested with Love the Way You Lie by Eminem and Rihanna.101Walterton wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 11:46pmNo that is what my music teacher tried to do at school. He was trying to make us sing O Bla Dee, Maxwel’s Silver Hammer and Yellow Submarine when we were all listening to the Pistols.gkbill wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 11:12pmHello,Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 8:26pmThere are a few in the front rows who smile and pretend my enthusiasm isn't just pathetic dorkiness, but most are really stony-faced. I can't judge them too harshly because when I was a student I was the sullen asshead in the back. It's a helluva lot easier to lecture when your audience is reacting, whether positively or negatively. But I'm self-contained enough that I can always plough thru without much hesitation. I go into performer mode and genuinely enjoy talking about whatever I'm talking about. I honestly don't understand my colleagues who hate the classroom. C'mon, this shit should be fun to talk about.101Walterton wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 7:43pmI wonder if they look at you the same way I looked at my music teacher at school when he lectured us on The Beatles with your Pistols enthusiasmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 6:44pmOh, lecture went fine (to me, anyway—I always have a ball when lecturing) tho students are usually stoic, so it's harder to tell (I get that, tho; I remember how it wasn't cool to look like you were into the lecture). I think I figured out the Taylor Swift pop fans, tho. Playing both "God Save the Queen" and "No Fun" resulted in a few people looking a bit lemon-faced. Even after all these years, GSTQ never fails to generate tingles on the back of my neck. Lyrically, Lydon was operating on a conceptual level so much higher than his peers. Which is no slam on those first-person, immediate punk songs—punk was ideal for giving kids the chance to make those personal statements—only how amazing it was that this 21-year-old fucker generated those words and concepts. I've said it before, but from '76 to '81, Lydon was untouchable.
Two part response:
Lydon has such courage and self-belief. As I recall, every rock star at that time wanted to be liked and wouldn't dare challenge anything. His courage, conviction, and charisma (how's that for alliteration?) were new and have still been untouched. No one then (and no one now, for that matter) could sing/shout "We mean it, maaaan!" with that same attitude - Lydon challenged the listener. Name a contemporary group/band/singer that challenges the audience.
I'm much luckier than you in some regard. My favorite class is Sport and Exercise Psychology as I sometimes find myself getting so excited about the material that many students get drawn in as they see application to their own lives and experiences - plus I get really involved in stories about my own experiences and applications. Your material may lend itself better to grad students provided they aren't afraid to become engaged. Maybe project video's from youtube with lyrics and require students to sing along? Class karaoke to break that wall?
And he thought he was the cool hip one