He’s a mix of social responsibility and crackpot skepticism in science, so it was a bit of a toss up in my mind how he’d go. Glad that the former won out.revbob wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 9:51amHe posted a video of himself getting a covid vax early on, so far so good.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 9:07amI could see Jello going the awful way on masks and vaccinations, but fully joining the side that broke his brain in the 80s would be a stunner.revbob wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 8:43amIt would probably sting the most, Jello becoming a right wing religious bigot would probably cause me to burn my music collection.
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Yeah is a bit of a luddite.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 10:22amHe’s a mix of social responsibility and crackpot skepticism in science, so it was a bit of a toss up in my mind how he’d go. Glad that the former won out.revbob wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 9:51amHe posted a video of himself getting a covid vax early on, so far so good.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 9:07amI could see Jello going the awful way on masks and vaccinations, but fully joining the side that broke his brain in the 80s would be a stunner.
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I seem to recall him claiming not long ago that he doesn't own a computer or do email—all that is handled by interns.revbob wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 10:56amYeah is a bit of a luddite.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 10:22amHe’s a mix of social responsibility and crackpot skepticism in science, so it was a bit of a toss up in my mind how he’d go. Glad that the former won out.revbob wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 9:51amHe posted a video of himself getting a covid vax early on, so far so good.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 9:07amI could see Jello going the awful way on masks and vaccinations, but fully joining the side that broke his brain in the 80s would be a stunner.
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He uses the internet now, I think. He does regular YouTube videos from his house. He's been 100% on the right side of the issues of the last few years. That's the difference between just being sort of a kneejerk skeptic like some and rooting your skepticism in a more principled commitment to justice and equality, imho.
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I've emphasized that in my punk seminar, that there's a difference between being oppositional—that's the principle at work—and being oppositional as a tool connected to other principles. The former is entirely reactive and floating; the latter is grounded and guided by a vision for a better society. The former is also a lot easier than the latter.Flex wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 12:29pmHe uses the internet now, I think. He does regular YouTube videos from his house. He's been 100% on the right side of the issues of the last few years. That's the difference between just being sort of a kneejerk skeptic like some and rooting your skepticism in a more principled commitment to justice and equality, imho.
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Well I watched the first two episodes last night and while I think John's a dick, I'm much more on his side in relation to this show. It's really, really bad. Compelling, but awful.
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I'm kinder to it (for reasons I've shared over the past week), but I don't think this is an unfair assessment.
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There's been enough myth over the years so I really dont know what is/isnt the truth.
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McLaren for the win!
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The truth (however much is included in the show) isn't really my beef (although there is some glaring shit), but rather, the awful, awful dialogue and structure. God I hate biopics.
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I'm watching with my partner - who doesn't know much about the band, so I'm clueing her in now and then, but mostly just watching as pure entertainment. It's not great, but not terrible. Some of the characters (especially John) veer too close to being caricatures and the dialogue can be clunky at times.Kory wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 5:49pmThe truth (however much is included in the show) isn't really my beef (although there is some glaring shit), but rather, the awful, awful dialogue and structure. God I hate biopics.
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I think they do a decent job of portraying John as a guy who's definitely covering for personal insecurities without hammering you with it though. Still weird to me that the guy playing him doesn't have John's singing range.WestwayKid wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 6:29pmI'm watching with my partner - who doesn't know much about the band, so I'm clueing her in now and then, but mostly just watching as pure entertainment. It's not great, but not terrible. Some of the characters (especially John) veer too close to being caricatures and the dialogue can be clunky at times.Kory wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 5:49pmThe truth (however much is included in the show) isn't really my beef (although there is some glaring shit), but rather, the awful, awful dialogue and structure. God I hate biopics.
The main thing that sticks out to me after 4 episodes is that they haven't gone at all into how influential they were even at the time, except for a short scene with the nascent Banshees. Where's the 100 Club punk festival? No sequence with the LFTH in Manchester, seriously? Hopefully they'll get to the Anarchy Tour in episode 5 but of course Sid wasn't in the band by that point.
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No, their influence isn't a focus because it is, fundamentally, a story about Steve. The series is called Pistol, not Pistols. So the ramifications is on Steve, not the larger world around them. Not saying that's a good choice or a bad choice, but it is the choice in focus that they made.Kory wrote: ↑08 Jun 2022, 2:14pmI think they do a decent job of portraying John as a guy who's definitely covering for personal insecurities without hammering you with it though. Still weird to me that the guy playing him doesn't have John's singing range.WestwayKid wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 6:29pmI'm watching with my partner - who doesn't know much about the band, so I'm clueing her in now and then, but mostly just watching as pure entertainment. It's not great, but not terrible. Some of the characters (especially John) veer too close to being caricatures and the dialogue can be clunky at times.Kory wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 5:49pmThe truth (however much is included in the show) isn't really my beef (although there is some glaring shit), but rather, the awful, awful dialogue and structure. God I hate biopics.
The main thing that sticks out to me after 4 episodes is that they haven't gone at all into how influential they were even at the time, except for a short scene with the nascent Banshees. Where's the 100 Club punk festival? No sequence with the LFTH in Manchester, seriously? Hopefully they'll get to the Anarchy Tour in episode 5 but of course Sid wasn't in the band by that point.
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I'd counter that if the focus is on Steve, the influence/importance of the band he started should also be addressed, because as Glen points out before he gets fired, it is a rebuttal to Steve's low sense of self-worth.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Jun 2022, 2:42pmNo, their influence isn't a focus because it is, fundamentally, a story about Steve. The series is called Pistol, not Pistols. So the ramifications is on Steve, not the larger world around them. Not saying that's a good choice or a bad choice, but it is the choice in focus that they made.Kory wrote: ↑08 Jun 2022, 2:14pmI think they do a decent job of portraying John as a guy who's definitely covering for personal insecurities without hammering you with it though. Still weird to me that the guy playing him doesn't have John's singing range.WestwayKid wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 6:29pmI'm watching with my partner - who doesn't know much about the band, so I'm clueing her in now and then, but mostly just watching as pure entertainment. It's not great, but not terrible. Some of the characters (especially John) veer too close to being caricatures and the dialogue can be clunky at times.
The main thing that sticks out to me after 4 episodes is that they haven't gone at all into how influential they were even at the time, except for a short scene with the nascent Banshees. Where's the 100 Club punk festival? No sequence with the LFTH in Manchester, seriously? Hopefully they'll get to the Anarchy Tour in episode 5 but of course Sid wasn't in the band by that point.
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In terms of narrative, it loses focus if it tries to do both. It can't be a story of Steve *and* a story of everyone else. And, in terms of Steve's sense of self-worth, he doesn't emerge from this story in a good place. The Steve in 1979 or 1980 doesn't especially care about what the Pistols accomplished or inspired because he's fallen into heroin.Kory wrote: ↑08 Jun 2022, 7:06pmI'd counter that if the focus is on Steve, the influence/importance of the band he started should also be addressed, because as Glen points out before he gets fired, it is a rebuttal to Steve's low sense of self-worth.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Jun 2022, 2:42pmNo, their influence isn't a focus because it is, fundamentally, a story about Steve. The series is called Pistol, not Pistols. So the ramifications is on Steve, not the larger world around them. Not saying that's a good choice or a bad choice, but it is the choice in focus that they made.Kory wrote: ↑08 Jun 2022, 2:14pmI think they do a decent job of portraying John as a guy who's definitely covering for personal insecurities without hammering you with it though. Still weird to me that the guy playing him doesn't have John's singing range.WestwayKid wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 6:29pmI'm watching with my partner - who doesn't know much about the band, so I'm clueing her in now and then, but mostly just watching as pure entertainment. It's not great, but not terrible. Some of the characters (especially John) veer too close to being caricatures and the dialogue can be clunky at times.
The main thing that sticks out to me after 4 episodes is that they haven't gone at all into how influential they were even at the time, except for a short scene with the nascent Banshees. Where's the 100 Club punk festival? No sequence with the LFTH in Manchester, seriously? Hopefully they'll get to the Anarchy Tour in episode 5 but of course Sid wasn't in the band by that point.
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