Bored With The USA lyrics correction

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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Aeneas » 05 Mar 2019, 7:59pm

Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 11:49am
Aeneas wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 9:29pm
Low Down Low wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 9:21pm
Bored with the bored with the usa correction threads
Sounds like the record company talking here.
Sounds like you are making up your own theory.

Heroin wasn't destroying Strummer's friends. Their own stupidity did that and Joe singing about Heroin killing his friends in 1976 is stupid talk how many of Joe's squatting community do you think could afford a bag of Heroin? Sure the Heartbreakers famously took Heroin but they were not to blame for the likes of Sid taking it as he had taken it even before he joined the Pistols and met Thunders etc. So I wonder exactly who you think these friends were Joe was allegedly singing about?

The UK drug of choice for the punks and soul boys was Speed because it was cheap (affordable) and served it purpose for all-nighters.

You changing the ad-libs to suit your own narrative/conspiracy doesn't make it right.

Should change the name of the song back to it's original title "I'm So Bored with You".
Clearly, Strummer had trouble keeping his own drummer Topper Headon
from the heroin needle, and eventually was forced to fire him.
Certainly, backstage when Sid Vicious was holding court as a solo act
in NYC in late 1978/early 1979 with several members of the New York Dolls
must have been a blast -- Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan (drummer) were
definitely heroin addicts, in a place, NYC, where it has always been
extremely easy to 'score' or 'cop' heroin.

=============City of the Dead==================
In the city of the dead
Fall in love an' fall in bed
It wasn't anything you said
Except I know we both lie dead
Don't you know where to cop
That's what New York Johnny said
You should get to know your town
Just like I know mine
=============================================

From what I have read, there was a "British System" within
the UK health system in the late 60's/early 70's to prescribe heroin
to people who their psychiatrists thought needed the drug,
through Drug Dependency Units (DDU) established by the Ministry of Health.
Thus it appears the UK Parliament was the one importing much of the
Golden Crescent opium directly.
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Kory » 05 Mar 2019, 8:00pm

Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:43pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 5:30pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 5:18pm
WestwayKid wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 1:13pm
The only "conspiracy" is whether Mick ripped off Steve Jones or the other way around ;) :mrgreen:
Is this referring to the Pretty Vacant-esque intro?
Yep. It's just speeded up kind of.
And the octave and 5th are reversed as well, but still quite similar.
Yep I knew you would know the technical specifics. It is similar but I don't think it's a steal either.
Certainly close enough to hold someone's feet to the fire over.
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Dr. Medulla » 05 Mar 2019, 8:11pm

Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:43pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 5:30pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 5:18pm


Is this referring to the Pretty Vacant-esque intro?
Yep. It's just speeded up kind of.
And the octave and 5th are reversed as well, but still quite similar.
Yep I knew you would know the technical specifics. It is similar but I don't think it's a steal either.
Certainly close enough to hold someone's feet to the fire over.
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Aeneas » 05 Mar 2019, 8:13pm

WestwayKid wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 1:13pm
Flex wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 12:19pm
this thread is funny
I've always chuckled at the line "Yankee detectives are always on the TV, 'cause killers in America work seven days a week"! I think partly because of Joe's delivery and partly because it's still such a true reflection on America.

There is no conspiracy behind this song. Joe misheard Mick singing "I'm So Bored With You" and then subsequently rewrote it as a provocative/sarcastic look at American culture. That's all it is. The only "conspiracy" is whether Mick ripped off Steve Jones or the other way around ;) :mrgreen:
In a video interview, Mick Jones described this song "I'm So Bored With The USA",
as the first song he and Joe Strummer worked on, and described Strummer
typing up the lyrics on a regular typewriter (this was 1977) like a journalist
and handing the lyrics to Mick to do the music.

Rock and Roll guitar playing on this song is awesome.
The similarity with the Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant intro is mild at best.
(worst song Sex Pistols ever made -- explains why the record companies and
their payola-bribed radio stations prefer it over the other tracks on Never Mind The Bollocks).

Unfortunately for The Clash, Mick Jones stopped
"practising daily in his room"
after the 2nd album (1978).

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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Marky Dread » 05 Mar 2019, 8:36pm

Aeneas wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:13pm
WestwayKid wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 1:13pm
Flex wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 12:19pm
this thread is funny
I've always chuckled at the line "Yankee detectives are always on the TV, 'cause killers in America work seven days a week"! I think partly because of Joe's delivery and partly because it's still such a true reflection on America.

There is no conspiracy behind this song. Joe misheard Mick singing "I'm So Bored With You" and then subsequently rewrote it as a provocative/sarcastic look at American culture. That's all it is. The only "conspiracy" is whether Mick ripped off Steve Jones or the other way around ;) :mrgreen:
In a video interview, Mick Jones described this song "I'm So Bored With The USA",
as the first song he and Joe Strummer worked on, and described Strummer
typing up the lyrics on a regular typewriter (this was 1977) like a journalist
and handing the lyrics to Mick to do the music.

Rock and Roll guitar playing on this song is awesome.
The similarity with the Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant intro is mild at best.
(worst song Sex Pistols ever made -- explains why the record companies and
their payola-bribed radio stations prefer it over the other tracks on Never Mind The Bollocks).

Unfortunately for The Clash, Mick Jones stopped
"practising daily in his room"
after the 2nd album (1978).
Pretty Vacant - "the worst song Sex Pistols ever made" Rotten subverting the word "cunt" in vacant. It's a bloody great song and tune and you are bat-shit crazy.
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by 101Walterton » 05 Mar 2019, 8:45pm

Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:43pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 5:30pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 5:18pm


Is this referring to the Pretty Vacant-esque intro?
Yep. It's just speeded up kind of.
And the octave and 5th are reversed as well, but still quite similar.
Yep I knew you would know the technical specifics. It is similar but I don't think it's a steal either.
Certainly close enough to hold someone's feet to the fire over.
What about this one,


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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Marky Dread » 05 Mar 2019, 8:48pm

Aeneas wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:59pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 11:49am
Aeneas wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 9:29pm
Low Down Low wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 9:21pm
Bored with the bored with the usa correction threads
Sounds like the record company talking here.
Sounds like you are making up your own theory.

Heroin wasn't destroying Strummer's friends. Their own stupidity did that and Joe singing about Heroin killing his friends in 1976 is stupid talk how many of Joe's squatting community do you think could afford a bag of Heroin? Sure the Heartbreakers famously took Heroin but they were not to blame for the likes of Sid taking it as he had taken it even before he joined the Pistols and met Thunders etc. So I wonder exactly who you think these friends were Joe was allegedly singing about?

The UK drug of choice for the punks and soul boys was Speed because it was cheap (affordable) and served it purpose for all-nighters.

You changing the ad-libs to suit your own narrative/conspiracy doesn't make it right.

Should change the name of the song back to it's original title "I'm So Bored with You".
Clearly, Strummer had trouble keeping his own drummer Topper Headon
Not in 1976 he didn't when the song in question was written and Terry was the drummer. Fail.
from the heroin needle, and eventually was forced to fire him.
Certainly, backstage when Sid Vicious was holding court as a solo act
in NYC in late 1978/early 1979 with several members of the New York Dolls
must have been a blast -- Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan (drummer) were
definitely heroin addicts, in a place, NYC, where it has always been
extremely easy to 'score' or 'cop' heroin.

How did Joe write about these events in "I'm So Bored with the USA" when they occured after 1976?

=============City of the Dead==================
In the city of the dead
Fall in love an' fall in bed
It wasn't anything you said
Except I know we both lie dead
Don't you know where to cop
That's what New York Johnny said
You should get to know your town
Just like I know mine
=============================================

Johnny telling Joe that it's best to know where to score and where can he get gear in the UK. Joe took Heroin once it's alleged and covered it up with a hepatitis scare which was claimed he got from swallowing some gob.

From what I have read, there was a "British System" within
the UK health system in the late 60's/early 70's to prescribe heroin
to people who their psychiatrists thought needed the drug,
through Drug Dependency Units (DDU) established by the Ministry of Health.
Thus it appears the UK Parliament was the one importing much of the
Golden Crescent opium directly.
Well some truth at last but in 1964 there were around 350 registered Heroin addicts in the UK.
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Heston » 05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm

Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:36pm
Aeneas wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:13pm
WestwayKid wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 1:13pm
Flex wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 12:19pm
this thread is funny
I've always chuckled at the line "Yankee detectives are always on the TV, 'cause killers in America work seven days a week"! I think partly because of Joe's delivery and partly because it's still such a true reflection on America.

There is no conspiracy behind this song. Joe misheard Mick singing "I'm So Bored With You" and then subsequently rewrote it as a provocative/sarcastic look at American culture. That's all it is. The only "conspiracy" is whether Mick ripped off Steve Jones or the other way around ;) :mrgreen:
In a video interview, Mick Jones described this song "I'm So Bored With The USA",
as the first song he and Joe Strummer worked on, and described Strummer
typing up the lyrics on a regular typewriter (this was 1977) like a journalist
and handing the lyrics to Mick to do the music.

Rock and Roll guitar playing on this song is awesome.
The similarity with the Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant intro is mild at best.
(worst song Sex Pistols ever made -- explains why the record companies and
their payola-bribed radio stations prefer it over the other tracks on Never Mind The Bollocks).

Unfortunately for The Clash, Mick Jones stopped
"practising daily in his room"
after the 2nd album (1978).
Pretty Vacant - "the worst song Sex Pistols ever made" Rotten subverting the word "cunt" in vacant. It's a bloody great song and tune and you are bat-shit crazy.
The bloke is an idiot but I've decided to stop feeding the troll. The fact the premise of his thread is totally wrong is enough for me to bail out now.
I just polished off some Low Country shrimp & grits and a mess of collards. That's a hell of a strain on the arm.

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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Marky Dread » 05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm

101Walterton wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:45pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:43pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:12pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 5:30pm


Yep. It's just speeded up kind of.
And the octave and 5th are reversed as well, but still quite similar.
Yep I knew you would know the technical specifics. It is similar but I don't think it's a steal either.
Certainly close enough to hold someone's feet to the fire over.
What about this one,

Good luck spotting which part of the tune Matlock borrowed.
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Marky Dread » 05 Mar 2019, 8:51pm

Heston wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:36pm
Aeneas wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:13pm
WestwayKid wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 1:13pm
Flex wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 12:19pm
this thread is funny
I've always chuckled at the line "Yankee detectives are always on the TV, 'cause killers in America work seven days a week"! I think partly because of Joe's delivery and partly because it's still such a true reflection on America.

There is no conspiracy behind this song. Joe misheard Mick singing "I'm So Bored With You" and then subsequently rewrote it as a provocative/sarcastic look at American culture. That's all it is. The only "conspiracy" is whether Mick ripped off Steve Jones or the other way around ;) :mrgreen:
In a video interview, Mick Jones described this song "I'm So Bored With The USA",
as the first song he and Joe Strummer worked on, and described Strummer
typing up the lyrics on a regular typewriter (this was 1977) like a journalist
and handing the lyrics to Mick to do the music.

Rock and Roll guitar playing on this song is awesome.
The similarity with the Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant intro is mild at best.
(worst song Sex Pistols ever made -- explains why the record companies and
their payola-bribed radio stations prefer it over the other tracks on Never Mind The Bollocks).

Unfortunately for The Clash, Mick Jones stopped
"practising daily in his room"
after the 2nd album (1978).
Pretty Vacant - "the worst song Sex Pistols ever made" Rotten subverting the word "cunt" in vacant. It's a bloody great song and tune and you are bat-shit crazy.
The bloke is an idiot but I've decided to stop feeding the troll. The fact the premise of his thread is totally wrong is enough for me to bail out now.
Yep he can KISS this. ;)
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Marky Dread » 05 Mar 2019, 8:52pm

Heston wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:36pm
Aeneas wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:13pm
WestwayKid wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 1:13pm
Flex wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 12:19pm
this thread is funny
I've always chuckled at the line "Yankee detectives are always on the TV, 'cause killers in America work seven days a week"! I think partly because of Joe's delivery and partly because it's still such a true reflection on America.

There is no conspiracy behind this song. Joe misheard Mick singing "I'm So Bored With You" and then subsequently rewrote it as a provocative/sarcastic look at American culture. That's all it is. The only "conspiracy" is whether Mick ripped off Steve Jones or the other way around ;) :mrgreen:
In a video interview, Mick Jones described this song "I'm So Bored With The USA",
as the first song he and Joe Strummer worked on, and described Strummer
typing up the lyrics on a regular typewriter (this was 1977) like a journalist
and handing the lyrics to Mick to do the music.

Rock and Roll guitar playing on this song is awesome.
The similarity with the Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant intro is mild at best.
(worst song Sex Pistols ever made -- explains why the record companies and
their payola-bribed radio stations prefer it over the other tracks on Never Mind The Bollocks).

Unfortunately for The Clash, Mick Jones stopped
"practising daily in his room"
after the 2nd album (1978).
Pretty Vacant - "the worst song Sex Pistols ever made" Rotten subverting the word "cunt" in vacant. It's a bloody great song and tune and you are bat-shit crazy.
The bloke is an idiot but I've decided to stop feeding the troll. The fact the premise of his thread is totally wrong is enough for me to bail out now.

Yep he can KISS this. ;)
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Dr. Medulla » 05 Mar 2019, 8:55pm

Heston wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm
The bloke is an idiot but I've decided to stop feeding the troll. The fact the premise of his thread is totally wrong is enough for me to bail out now.
Comedian David Cross once talked about cat-calling garbagemen, that these guys have next to no chance of attracting a woman with their lame and offensive come-ons while riding on the back of the truck. But it only has to work once, must be the reasoning. That's how our drug-obsessed friend must be approaching this. Sure, most of us know he's a loon inventing the past to suit his present obsession, but if he can persuade just one person, it's worth it.
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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by 101Walterton » 05 Mar 2019, 9:03pm

Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm
101Walterton wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:45pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:43pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:12pm


And the octave and 5th are reversed as well, but still quite similar.
Yep I knew you would know the technical specifics. It is similar but I don't think it's a steal either.
Certainly close enough to hold someone's feet to the fire over.
What about this one,

Good luck spotting which part of the tune Matlock borrowed.
I always presumed it was the descending notes in the chorus?

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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Heston » 05 Mar 2019, 9:08pm

101Walterton wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 9:03pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm
101Walterton wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:45pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 7:43pm


Yep I knew you would know the technical specifics. It is similar but I don't think it's a steal either.
Certainly close enough to hold someone's feet to the fire over.
What about this one,

Good luck spotting which part of the tune Matlock borrowed.
I always presumed it was the descending notes in the chorus?
For me it's the bit after "how can I even try to go on." The riff starts on the word, "on."
I just polished off some Low Country shrimp & grits and a mess of collards. That's a hell of a strain on the arm.

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Re: Bored With The USA lyrics correction

Post by Marky Dread » 05 Mar 2019, 9:09pm

Heston wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 9:08pm
101Walterton wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 9:03pm
Marky Dread wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:49pm
101Walterton wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:45pm
Kory wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 8:00pm


Certainly close enough to hold someone's feet to the fire over.
What about this one,

Good luck spotting which part of the tune Matlock borrowed.
I always presumed it was the descending notes in the chorus?
For me it's the bit after "how can I even try to go on." The riff starts on the word, "on."
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