I can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.Flex wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 3:32pmI think I'd try to hold out until you get some firm direction from credible sources (of which reddit... may or may not be).Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 2:55pmShe's pushing for yet another photo shoot only two months after the last photo shoot and it seems like the universe telling me to get out, because:
1. I don't want to fucking do another one. I hate them, and it's just another example of our vastly different motivations for being in a band
2. I don't want them to not be able to use the photos when I'm gone shortly thereafter
I was planning to wait until everything was secured, likely in October, but she is really pushing for this because nobody else was satisfied with the last shoot.
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You could get the shit kicked out of you, tarnishing your boy band-like visage.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.
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Is that an offer?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:11pmYou could get the shit kicked out of you, tarnishing your boy band-like visage.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.
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Wear a mask like Mick in the RtC video.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.Flex wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 3:32pmI think I'd try to hold out until you get some firm direction from credible sources (of which reddit... may or may not be).Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 2:55pmShe's pushing for yet another photo shoot only two months after the last photo shoot and it seems like the universe telling me to get out, because:
1. I don't want to fucking do another one. I hate them, and it's just another example of our vastly different motivations for being in a band
2. I don't want them to not be able to use the photos when I'm gone shortly thereafter
I was planning to wait until everything was secured, likely in October, but she is really pushing for this because nobody else was satisfied with the last shoot.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Or hire some feeb to do it for me and put the mask on them.Heston wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:12pmWear a mask like Mick in the RtC video.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.Flex wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 3:32pmI think I'd try to hold out until you get some firm direction from credible sources (of which reddit... may or may not be).Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 2:55pmShe's pushing for yet another photo shoot only two months after the last photo shoot and it seems like the universe telling me to get out, because:
1. I don't want to fucking do another one. I hate them, and it's just another example of our vastly different motivations for being in a band
2. I don't want them to not be able to use the photos when I'm gone shortly thereafter
I was planning to wait until everything was secured, likely in October, but she is really pushing for this because nobody else was satisfied with the last shoot.
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I can't believe there isn't a line around the block of people in your neighbourhood who wouldn't oblige.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:11pmIs that an offer?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:11pmYou could get the shit kicked out of you, tarnishing your boy band-like visage.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.
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Utter classic. Would be alright if I actually wanted to do the thing. I really just don't want to leave them with a bunch of unusable photos.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:21pmI can't believe there isn't a line around the block of people in your neighbourhood who wouldn't oblige.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:11pmIs that an offer?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:11pmYou could get the shit kicked out of you, tarnishing your boy band-like visage.Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.
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I'm probably being an obtuse idiot, but is the problem that you have to share the expense out of pocket or something?Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.
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I'm not sure about that—she might pay out of her own pocket. I just really hate these things. The guy she wants to go with this time is extremely anxious and frenetic, constantly complaining about the models, the setting, how difficult his job is, how he wished he had brought this or that. For someone like me that has a major aversion to self-promotion, glamor, wardrobe changes, being called fat in the process and doing all this for 10 hours straight, it's not much fun to add the photographer's cartoonish levels of anxiety to my own. Also as I mentioned earlier, I don't want to leave them with a bunch of shots they can't use, and I certainly don't want to spend my time on a 10 hour photo shoot that's never going to get used.Flex wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 5:00pmI'm probably being an obtuse idiot, but is the problem that you have to share the expense out of pocket or something?Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 4:03pmI can't think of a way to put off the photo shoot though. If anybody has any advice there, I'd greatly appreciate it. Its purpose is to give us promo photos for the album that's about to be released, so everybody except me is all about it. I asked to get it pushed out to November because I'm still burned out from the last one, but she said we're going to take a load of the photos outdoors.
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Gotcha. Yeah, doesn't sound like fun. I guess it's just a balance between how much surety you want on having royalties secured vs having to deal with the shoot. I guess I'm risk averse on these things, but I don't think I'd be confident quitting until there's a signed agreement in hand and would probably just suck up the 10 hours of hell if I didn't have that secured. That said, I can't really assess how shitty this actually is and, as you say, maybe if you get some written document of intent that will suffice (not a lawyer, so I have no idea).Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 5:15pmI'm not sure about that—she might pay out of her own pocket. I just really hate these things. The guy she wants to go with this time is extremely anxious and frenetic, constantly complaining about the models, the setting, how difficult his job is, how he wished he had brought this or that. For someone like me that has a major aversion to self-promotion, glamor, wardrobe changes, being called fat in the process and doing all this for 10 hours straight, it's not much fun to add the photographer's cartoonish levels of anxiety to my own. Also as I mentioned earlier, I don't want to leave them with a bunch of shots they can't use, and I certainly don't want to spend my time on a 10 hour photo shoot that's never going to get used.
Also, maybe I'm an asshole, but I don't think I'd give two shits about rendering their photo shoot useless by quitting a week or two later. Fuck all of 'em, from the sounds of it.
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I'm with Flex re. leaving them with useless photos. Keep in mind that she is, by your account, a racist and an abusive control freak. She hasn't earned your good conscience.
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Lol, well I'm friends outside of the band with the guitarist so I don't want to fuck him over, I just don't like working with him if the singer is involved because he pretends to back me up and then just winds up doing whatever she wants.Flex wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 6:10pmGotcha. Yeah, doesn't sound like fun. I guess it's just a balance between how much surety you want on having royalties secured vs having to deal with the shoot. I guess I'm risk averse on these things, but I don't think I'd be confident quitting until there's a signed agreement in hand and would probably just suck up the 10 hours of hell if I didn't have that secured. That said, I can't really assess how shitty this actually is and, as you say, maybe if you get some written document of intent that will suffice (not a lawyer, so I have no idea).Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 5:15pmI'm not sure about that—she might pay out of her own pocket. I just really hate these things. The guy she wants to go with this time is extremely anxious and frenetic, constantly complaining about the models, the setting, how difficult his job is, how he wished he had brought this or that. For someone like me that has a major aversion to self-promotion, glamor, wardrobe changes, being called fat in the process and doing all this for 10 hours straight, it's not much fun to add the photographer's cartoonish levels of anxiety to my own. Also as I mentioned earlier, I don't want to leave them with a bunch of shots they can't use, and I certainly don't want to spend my time on a 10 hour photo shoot that's never going to get used.
Also, maybe I'm an asshole, but I don't think I'd give two shits about rendering their photo shoot useless by quitting a week or two later. Fuck all of 'em, from the sounds of it.
I've found an entertainment lawyer in Seattle that does free initial consultations over email, So I've dropped them a line about the FB Messenger strategy. Hopefully they get back very soon as say it's LEGALLY BINDING. Thanks for all the advice gang!
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I guess it may come to that if this lawyer I've contacted doesn't have good news. I just really dread the idea of doing yet another shoot, especially since it will mean that I'll have done exactly as many photo shoots as played shows with them. Which is obviously an insane ratio for a "band."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 6:31pmI'm with Flex re. leaving them with useless photos. Keep in mind that she is, by your account, a racist and an abusive control freak. She hasn't earned your good conscience.
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Uh, you owe us all $50.
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Wow, that's crazy. The band isn't into playing shows?Kory wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 6:36pmI guess it may come to that if this lawyer I've contacted doesn't have good news. I just really dread the idea of doing yet another shoot, especially since it will mean that I'll have done exactly as many photo shoots as played shows with them. Which is obviously an insane ratio for a "band."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 6:31pmI'm with Flex re. leaving them with useless photos. Keep in mind that she is, by your account, a racist and an abusive control freak. She hasn't earned your good conscience.
(You could have “fun” with the shoot and just be a dick and do your own thing. Be “that guy.”)
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