If Discogs is correct, the European version of that release said "Special Edition," but the US one did not. I have the US one, but there's no indication that they are different remasterings.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 6:11amJust a question do you have the 2 disc version that says "special edition" on the front cover under the album title?Kory wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:19pmReally? I wonder if I have a defective one. I've compared the 2-disc Different Kind of Tension against the IRS one and the newest "original tape" master and it seems like the left guitar is way lower in the mix, creating a weird imbalance. Are you hearing that?Marky Dread wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:13pmThe two discs special edition versions are still worthy in my opinion. They are not brickwalled just more brittle sounding. It seems they have had the treble pushed up. I have remixed and remastered the Another Music cd from Product and found that enhancing the background sounds and adding a little sub-bass gave a much fuller sound. With a few other little tricks I use I think it sounds much more natural.Kory wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:03pmVery cool, thanks Marky! I've ordered the Product box from Discogs. I think what I'll probably wind up doing is keeping that, Ripping the bonus tracks from the 2-discers and selling them, and then keeping the newest "original tape" remasters (though I am still concerned that the newest Another Music is fairly bricked, or sounds like it, anyway).
Also I will add that the two disc version of Another Kind of Tension sounds really good.
For my money, the "original tape" master is the best one of that so far. Muscular.
EMI have released these albums so many times. There have been previous two disc editions.
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Hey would one of you mind sharing these Buzzcocks demos? I have always wanted to hear them!
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I would imagine they are the same. I was asking because EMI had previously released a two disc set years back. One disc had the album the second disc had the related singles. Not like the special editions with demos and live though.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 1:46pmIf Discogs is correct, the European version of that release said "Special Edition," but the US one did not. I have the US one, but there's no indication that they are different remasterings.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 6:11amJust a question do you have the 2 disc version that says "special edition" on the front cover under the album title?Kory wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:19pmReally? I wonder if I have a defective one. I've compared the 2-disc Different Kind of Tension against the IRS one and the newest "original tape" master and it seems like the left guitar is way lower in the mix, creating a weird imbalance. Are you hearing that?Marky Dread wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:13pmThe two discs special edition versions are still worthy in my opinion. They are not brickwalled just more brittle sounding. It seems they have had the treble pushed up. I have remixed and remastered the Another Music cd from Product and found that enhancing the background sounds and adding a little sub-bass gave a much fuller sound. With a few other little tricks I use I think it sounds much more natural.Kory wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:03pmVery cool, thanks Marky! I've ordered the Product box from Discogs. I think what I'll probably wind up doing is keeping that, Ripping the bonus tracks from the 2-discers and selling them, and then keeping the newest "original tape" remasters (though I am still concerned that the newest Another Music is fairly bricked, or sounds like it, anyway).
Also I will add that the two disc version of Another Kind of Tension sounds really good.
For my money, the "original tape" master is the best one of that so far. Muscular.
EMI have released these albums so many times. There have been previous two disc editions.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
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Let me know if you hear that weird left/right imbalance on the Deluxe though, I'm curious if I have a defect or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:10pmI would imagine they are the same. I was asking because EMI had previously released a two disc set years back. One disc had the album the second disc had the related singles. Not like the special editions with demos and live though.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 1:46pmIf Discogs is correct, the European version of that release said "Special Edition," but the US one did not. I have the US one, but there's no indication that they are different remasterings.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 6:11amJust a question do you have the 2 disc version that says "special edition" on the front cover under the album title?Kory wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:19pmReally? I wonder if I have a defective one. I've compared the 2-disc Different Kind of Tension against the IRS one and the newest "original tape" master and it seems like the left guitar is way lower in the mix, creating a weird imbalance. Are you hearing that?Marky Dread wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:13pm
The two discs special edition versions are still worthy in my opinion. They are not brickwalled just more brittle sounding. It seems they have had the treble pushed up. I have remixed and remastered the Another Music cd from Product and found that enhancing the background sounds and adding a little sub-bass gave a much fuller sound. With a few other little tricks I use I think it sounds much more natural.
Also I will add that the two disc version of Another Kind of Tension sounds really good.
For my money, the "original tape" master is the best one of that so far. Muscular.
EMI have released these albums so many times. There have been previous two disc editions.
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Scroll back a few posts mate.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:14pmLet me know if you hear that weird left/right imbalance on the Deluxe though, I'm curious if I have a defect or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:10pmI would imagine they are the same. I was asking because EMI had previously released a two disc set years back. One disc had the album the second disc had the related singles. Not like the special editions with demos and live though.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 1:46pmIf Discogs is correct, the European version of that release said "Special Edition," but the US one did not. I have the US one, but there's no indication that they are different remasterings.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 6:11amJust a question do you have the 2 disc version that says "special edition" on the front cover under the album title?Kory wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 2:19pm
Really? I wonder if I have a defective one. I've compared the 2-disc Different Kind of Tension against the IRS one and the newest "original tape" master and it seems like the left guitar is way lower in the mix, creating a weird imbalance. Are you hearing that?
For my money, the "original tape" master is the best one of that so far. Muscular.
EMI have released these albums so many times. There have been previous two disc editions.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
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Yeah I agree mate. By the way Wallpaper World was a Flag of Convenience track originally.JohnS wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 11:19amMy demos CDR matches your FLAC list exactly Marky.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 9:59amThe Pacific demo tape :
A1. Dreamin
A2. Alive Tonight
A3. Never Gonna Give It Up
A4. Wallpaper World
A5. Successful Street
A6. Who'll Help Me To Forget
A7. Serious Crime
A8. Why Compromise
B1. Last To Know
B2. Run Away From Home
B3. Searching For Your Love
B4. Tranquillizer
B5. When Love Turns Around You
What I have in Flac:
01. Isolation
02. Never Gonna Give It Up
03. When Love Turns Around You
04. All Over You
05. Trash Away
06. Who'll Help Me to Forget
07. Run Away from Home
08. Why Compromise
09. Alive Tonight
10. Last to Know
11. Inside
12. Serious Crime
13. Tranquilizer
14. Dreamin'
The tape has some exclusive tracks - Wallpaper World, Successful Street and Searching For Your Love - so maybe that's why they're tracking it down.
The CDR has its own exclusive tracks - Isolation, All Over You, Trash Away and Inside. Hopefully they've got those covered already
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Oh sorry, missed that. I guess I'll have to order another one and see if it sounds better.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:18pmScroll back a few posts mate.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:14pmLet me know if you hear that weird left/right imbalance on the Deluxe though, I'm curious if I have a defect or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:10pmI would imagine they are the same. I was asking because EMI had previously released a two disc set years back. One disc had the album the second disc had the related singles. Not like the special editions with demos and live though.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 1:46pmIf Discogs is correct, the European version of that release said "Special Edition," but the US one did not. I have the US one, but there's no indication that they are different remasterings.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 6:11am
Just a question do you have the 2 disc version that says "special edition" on the front cover under the album title?
EMI have released these albums so many times. There have been previous two disc editions.
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I played mine earlier this afternoon. I couldn't hear any lower guitar in the mix. On a couple of tracks I did notice the hi hat sounded a little more prominent.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:38pmOh sorry, missed that. I guess I'll have to order another one and see if it sounds better.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:18pmScroll back a few posts mate.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:14pmLet me know if you hear that weird left/right imbalance on the Deluxe though, I'm curious if I have a defect or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:10pmI would imagine they are the same. I was asking because EMI had previously released a two disc set years back. One disc had the album the second disc had the related singles. Not like the special editions with demos and live though.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
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I don't know if I would have noticed it if I hadn't been going back and forth between the IRS and 2018 masters. I have two players hooked up to my stereo so I can quickly switch, and the 2-disc one has an obvious drop in the left speaker. Must be a defect if you're not getting it. Maybe I'll order the European version and hope that it's a better pressing or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:41pmI played mine earlier this afternoon. I couldn't hear any lower guitar in the mix. On a couple of tracks I did notice the hi hat sounded a little more prominent.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:38pmOh sorry, missed that. I guess I'll have to order another one and see if it sounds better.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:18pmScroll back a few posts mate.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:14pmLet me know if you hear that weird left/right imbalance on the Deluxe though, I'm curious if I have a defect or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:10pm
I would imagine they are the same. I was asking because EMI had previously released a two disc set years back. One disc had the album the second disc had the related singles. Not like the special editions with demos and live though.
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Hmmm I would hate it if you bought it again and you thought it sounded the same. But I am seriously not hearing it on my copy. Also I looked at the special editions on Amazon yesterday and the prices have skyrocketed. They were also released in two different packages one has Jewell cases the others are digi packs.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:43pmI don't know if I would have noticed it if I hadn't been going back and forth between the IRS and 2018 masters. I have two players hooked up to my stereo so I can quickly switch, and the 2-disc one has an obvious drop in the left speaker. Must be a defect if you're not getting it. Maybe I'll order the European version and hope that it's a better pressing or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:41pmI played mine earlier this afternoon. I couldn't hear any lower guitar in the mix. On a couple of tracks I did notice the hi hat sounded a little more prominent.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:38pmOh sorry, missed that. I guess I'll have to order another one and see if it sounds better.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
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Ah yeah, I see that. Well, whatever I guess. I have the other two plus the Product box on the way. That's probably enough of that album for me. I still think the newest remaster sounds the best so far anyway, it's just a shame these newest ones have no bonus tracks at all.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:49pmHmmm I would hate it if you bought it again and you thought it sounded the same. But I am seriously not hearing it on my copy. Also I looked at the special editions on Amazon yesterday and the prices have skyrocketed. They were also released in two different packages one has Jewell cases the others are digi packs.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:43pmI don't know if I would have noticed it if I hadn't been going back and forth between the IRS and 2018 masters. I have two players hooked up to my stereo so I can quickly switch, and the 2-disc one has an obvious drop in the left speaker. Must be a defect if you're not getting it. Maybe I'll order the European version and hope that it's a better pressing or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:41pmI played mine earlier this afternoon. I couldn't hear any lower guitar in the mix. On a couple of tracks I did notice the hi hat sounded a little more prominent.
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Well I will remaster the original 3 albums, relevant singles, Demos, Peel sessions. I will leave the live material. The first album has been done. Love Bites gets a remaster tomorrow. Once I've finished I will arrange an upload for you. So you can compare.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:08pmAh yeah, I see that. Well, whatever I guess. I have the other two plus the Product box on the way. That's probably enough of that album for me. I still think the newest remaster sounds the best so far anyway, it's just a shame these newest ones have no bonus tracks at all.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:49pmHmmm I would hate it if you bought it again and you thought it sounded the same. But I am seriously not hearing it on my copy. Also I looked at the special editions on Amazon yesterday and the prices have skyrocketed. They were also released in two different packages one has Jewell cases the others are digi packs.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:43pmI don't know if I would have noticed it if I hadn't been going back and forth between the IRS and 2018 masters. I have two players hooked up to my stereo so I can quickly switch, and the 2-disc one has an obvious drop in the left speaker. Must be a defect if you're not getting it. Maybe I'll order the European version and hope that it's a better pressing or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:41pmI played mine earlier this afternoon. I couldn't hear any lower guitar in the mix. On a couple of tracks I did notice the hi hat sounded a little more prominent.
Forces have been looting
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Curfews have been curbing
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You mean I can A/B/C/D/E test?! Thanks!Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:14pmWell I will remaster the original 3 albums, relevant singles, Demos, Peel sessions. I will leave the live material. The first album has been done. Love Bites gets a remaster tomorrow. Once I've finished I will arrange an upload for you. So you can compare.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:08pmAh yeah, I see that. Well, whatever I guess. I have the other two plus the Product box on the way. That's probably enough of that album for me. I still think the newest remaster sounds the best so far anyway, it's just a shame these newest ones have no bonus tracks at all.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:49pmHmmm I would hate it if you bought it again and you thought it sounded the same. But I am seriously not hearing it on my copy. Also I looked at the special editions on Amazon yesterday and the prices have skyrocketed. They were also released in two different packages one has Jewell cases the others are digi packs.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:43pmI don't know if I would have noticed it if I hadn't been going back and forth between the IRS and 2018 masters. I have two players hooked up to my stereo so I can quickly switch, and the 2-disc one has an obvious drop in the left speaker. Must be a defect if you're not getting it. Maybe I'll order the European version and hope that it's a better pressing or something.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:41pm
I played mine earlier this afternoon. I couldn't hear any lower guitar in the mix. On a couple of tracks I did notice the hi hat sounded a little more prominent.
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No I mean you can hear how awesome I am.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:27pmYou mean I can A/B/C/D/E test?! Thanks!Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:14pmWell I will remaster the original 3 albums, relevant singles, Demos, Peel sessions. I will leave the live material. The first album has been done. Love Bites gets a remaster tomorrow. Once I've finished I will arrange an upload for you. So you can compare.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:08pmAh yeah, I see that. Well, whatever I guess. I have the other two plus the Product box on the way. That's probably enough of that album for me. I still think the newest remaster sounds the best so far anyway, it's just a shame these newest ones have no bonus tracks at all.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:49pmHmmm I would hate it if you bought it again and you thought it sounded the same. But I am seriously not hearing it on my copy. Also I looked at the special editions on Amazon yesterday and the prices have skyrocketed. They were also released in two different packages one has Jewell cases the others are digi packs.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:43pm
I don't know if I would have noticed it if I hadn't been going back and forth between the IRS and 2018 masters. I have two players hooked up to my stereo so I can quickly switch, and the 2-disc one has an obvious drop in the left speaker. Must be a defect if you're not getting it. Maybe I'll order the European version and hope that it's a better pressing or something.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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Well that's not in question.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:34pmNo I mean you can hear how awesome I am.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:27pmYou mean I can A/B/C/D/E test?! Thanks!Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:14pmWell I will remaster the original 3 albums, relevant singles, Demos, Peel sessions. I will leave the live material. The first album has been done. Love Bites gets a remaster tomorrow. Once I've finished I will arrange an upload for you. So you can compare.Kory wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 3:08pmAh yeah, I see that. Well, whatever I guess. I have the other two plus the Product box on the way. That's probably enough of that album for me. I still think the newest remaster sounds the best so far anyway, it's just a shame these newest ones have no bonus tracks at all.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 2:49pm
Hmmm I would hate it if you bought it again and you thought it sounded the same. But I am seriously not hearing it on my copy. Also I looked at the special editions on Amazon yesterday and the prices have skyrocketed. They were also released in two different packages one has Jewell cases the others are digi packs.
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