Ha! I wondered if you'd comment on that.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:10pmI hope they fix that type treatment ("People Wire in a Film").Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 8:57amNew Wire album early next year plus news / solicitation for funds for their self-produced documentary: https://pinkflag.greedbag.com/mailouts/ ... s-24-06-19
I'll be throwing in some cash, but I gotta say that their extra incentives plus the tiers involved are more miserly than most projects of this type.
So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
I can't escape it now. Kinda like how being trained in audio engineering has ruined my enjoyment of recorded music.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:15pmHa! I wondered if you'd comment on that.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:10pmI hope they fix that type treatment ("People Wire in a Film").Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 8:57amNew Wire album early next year plus news / solicitation for funds for their self-produced documentary: https://pinkflag.greedbag.com/mailouts/ ... s-24-06-19
I'll be throwing in some cash, but I gotta say that their extra incentives plus the tiers involved are more miserly than most projects of this type.
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
I remember when I started pursuing popular cultural from a scholarly perspective way back when, my adviser said that for a long time I'd be unable to enjoy music or tv or movies, etc. because I wouldn't be able to turn off the theory and analysis part. And it was true. But I eventually achieved a balance there. So I've told students in my rock class, the ones who really want to take it seriously, that really applying yourself will mean losing the "it's just fun" aspect to listening and thinking about bands and records. In a weird way, you have to work harder to just enjoy things.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:23pmI can't escape it now. Kinda like how being trained in audio engineering has ruined my enjoyment of recorded music.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:15pmHa! I wondered if you'd comment on that.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:10pmI hope they fix that type treatment ("People Wire in a Film").Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 8:57amNew Wire album early next year plus news / solicitation for funds for their self-produced documentary: https://pinkflag.greedbag.com/mailouts/ ... s-24-06-19
I'll be throwing in some cash, but I gotta say that their extra incentives plus the tiers involved are more miserly than most projects of this type.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
I honestly prefer it, it seems like a I have a deeper understanding of whatever it is I'm into, even if it does take extra effort to enjoy it for its own sake. I don't think I'd go back to the other way, in any case.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:32pmI remember when I started pursuing popular cultural from a scholarly perspective way back when, my adviser said that for a long time I'd be unable to enjoy music or tv or movies, etc. because I wouldn't be able to turn off the theory and analysis part. And it was true. But I eventually achieved a balance there. So I've told students in my rock class, the ones who really want to take it seriously, that really applying yourself will mean losing the "it's just fun" aspect to listening and thinking about bands and records. In a weird way, you have to work harder to just enjoy things.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:23pmI can't escape it now. Kinda like how being trained in audio engineering has ruined my enjoyment of recorded music.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:15pmHa! I wondered if you'd comment on that.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:10pmI hope they fix that type treatment ("People Wire in a Film").Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 8:57amNew Wire album early next year plus news / solicitation for funds for their self-produced documentary: https://pinkflag.greedbag.com/mailouts/ ... s-24-06-19
I'll be throwing in some cash, but I gotta say that their extra incentives plus the tiers involved are more miserly than most projects of this type.
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
Definitely. I roll my eyes when people groan about treating popular culture seriously—it's just a song/movie/book—but it's the dominant artistic expression of our world. Why shouldn't that stuff be treated with the same seriousness and respect as high culture or any other "serious" text? Despite how common it is, I'll never understand the hostility to treating popular culture as something that matters.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:36pmI honestly prefer it, it seems like a I have a deeper understanding of whatever it is I'm into, even if it does take extra effort to enjoy it for its own sake. I don't think I'd go back to the other way, in any case.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:32pmI remember when I started pursuing popular cultural from a scholarly perspective way back when, my adviser said that for a long time I'd be unable to enjoy music or tv or movies, etc. because I wouldn't be able to turn off the theory and analysis part. And it was true. But I eventually achieved a balance there. So I've told students in my rock class, the ones who really want to take it seriously, that really applying yourself will mean losing the "it's just fun" aspect to listening and thinking about bands and records. In a weird way, you have to work harder to just enjoy things.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:23pmI can't escape it now. Kinda like how being trained in audio engineering has ruined my enjoyment of recorded music.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
It certainly matters to a big chunk or the population more than politics or almost anything else, which alone makes it worthy of study.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:49pmDefinitely. I roll my eyes when people groan about treating popular culture seriously—it's just a song/movie/book—but it's the dominant artistic expression of our world. Why shouldn't that stuff be treated with the same seriousness and respect as high culture or any other "serious" text? Despite how common it is, I'll never understand the hostility to treating popular culture as something that matters.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:36pmI honestly prefer it, it seems like a I have a deeper understanding of whatever it is I'm into, even if it does take extra effort to enjoy it for its own sake. I don't think I'd go back to the other way, in any case.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:32pmI remember when I started pursuing popular cultural from a scholarly perspective way back when, my adviser said that for a long time I'd be unable to enjoy music or tv or movies, etc. because I wouldn't be able to turn off the theory and analysis part. And it was true. But I eventually achieved a balance there. So I've told students in my rock class, the ones who really want to take it seriously, that really applying yourself will mean losing the "it's just fun" aspect to listening and thinking about bands and records. In a weird way, you have to work harder to just enjoy things.
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
Hello,Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:38pmIt certainly matters to a big chunk or the population more than politics or almost anything else, which alone makes it worthy of study.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:49pmDefinitely. I roll my eyes when people groan about treating popular culture seriously—it's just a song/movie/book—but it's the dominant artistic expression of our world. Why shouldn't that stuff be treated with the same seriousness and respect as high culture or any other "serious" text? Despite how common it is, I'll never understand the hostility to treating popular culture as something that matters.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:36pmI honestly prefer it, it seems like a I have a deeper understanding of whatever it is I'm into, even if it does take extra effort to enjoy it for its own sake. I don't think I'd go back to the other way, in any case.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:32pmI remember when I started pursuing popular cultural from a scholarly perspective way back when, my adviser said that for a long time I'd be unable to enjoy music or tv or movies, etc. because I wouldn't be able to turn off the theory and analysis part. And it was true. But I eventually achieved a balance there. So I've told students in my rock class, the ones who really want to take it seriously, that really applying yourself will mean losing the "it's just fun" aspect to listening and thinking about bands and records. In a weird way, you have to work harder to just enjoy things.
I get a similar response to sport (it's within my field, Kinesiology). I usually throw this Mandela quote to them:
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. It speaks to youth in a language they understand. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair.”
— Nelson Mandela
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Quite true, but just as importantly sports can divide and exploit. Which doesn't change the value a whit, only that we shouldn't approach things in a celebratory manner. It has great value so we need to treat it with seriousness. If academics tend to dismiss popular culture as unworthy, students too often want to approach it in a celebratory manner.gkbill wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:44pmHello,Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:38pmIt certainly matters to a big chunk or the population more than politics or almost anything else, which alone makes it worthy of study.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:49pmDefinitely. I roll my eyes when people groan about treating popular culture seriously—it's just a song/movie/book—but it's the dominant artistic expression of our world. Why shouldn't that stuff be treated with the same seriousness and respect as high culture or any other "serious" text? Despite how common it is, I'll never understand the hostility to treating popular culture as something that matters.Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:36pmI honestly prefer it, it seems like a I have a deeper understanding of whatever it is I'm into, even if it does take extra effort to enjoy it for its own sake. I don't think I'd go back to the other way, in any case.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 2:32pm
I remember when I started pursuing popular cultural from a scholarly perspective way back when, my adviser said that for a long time I'd be unable to enjoy music or tv or movies, etc. because I wouldn't be able to turn off the theory and analysis part. And it was true. But I eventually achieved a balance there. So I've told students in my rock class, the ones who really want to take it seriously, that really applying yourself will mean losing the "it's just fun" aspect to listening and thinking about bands and records. In a weird way, you have to work harder to just enjoy things.
I get a similar response to sport (it's within my field, Kinesiology). I usually throw this Mandela quote to them:
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. It speaks to youth in a language they understand. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair.”
— Nelson Mandela
The other thing that I'll add more generally is that the dismissive position is also an intellectual one, so even being snide or anti-intellectual means treating the subject matter intellectually.
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
I'm finally me, an intellectual.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:52pmQuite true, but just as importantly sports can divide and exploit. Which doesn't change the value a whit, only that we shouldn't approach things in a celebratory manner. It has great value so we need to treat it with seriousness. If academics tend to dismiss popular culture as unworthy, students too often want to approach it in a celebratory manner.gkbill wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:44pmHello,Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:38pmIt certainly matters to a big chunk or the population more than politics or almost anything else, which alone makes it worthy of study.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:49pmDefinitely. I roll my eyes when people groan about treating popular culture seriously—it's just a song/movie/book—but it's the dominant artistic expression of our world. Why shouldn't that stuff be treated with the same seriousness and respect as high culture or any other "serious" text? Despite how common it is, I'll never understand the hostility to treating popular culture as something that matters.
I get a similar response to sport (it's within my field, Kinesiology). I usually throw this Mandela quote to them:
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. It speaks to youth in a language they understand. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair.”
— Nelson Mandela
The other thing that I'll add more generally is that the dismissive position is also an intellectual one, so even being snide or anti-intellectual means treating the subject matter intellectually.
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
Well, not you!Kory wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 12:39pmI'm finally me, an intellectual.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:52pmQuite true, but just as importantly sports can divide and exploit. Which doesn't change the value a whit, only that we shouldn't approach things in a celebratory manner. It has great value so we need to treat it with seriousness. If academics tend to dismiss popular culture as unworthy, students too often want to approach it in a celebratory manner.gkbill wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:44pmHello,Kory wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 4:38pmIt certainly matters to a big chunk or the population more than politics or almost anything else, which alone makes it worthy of study.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jun 2019, 3:49pm
Definitely. I roll my eyes when people groan about treating popular culture seriously—it's just a song/movie/book—but it's the dominant artistic expression of our world. Why shouldn't that stuff be treated with the same seriousness and respect as high culture or any other "serious" text? Despite how common it is, I'll never understand the hostility to treating popular culture as something that matters.
I get a similar response to sport (it's within my field, Kinesiology). I usually throw this Mandela quote to them:
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. It speaks to youth in a language they understand. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair.”
— Nelson Mandela
The other thing that I'll add more generally is that the dismissive position is also an intellectual one, so even being snide or anti-intellectual means treating the subject matter intellectually.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
Another new Wire spin-off group, Fitted, featuring Lewis and Simms, plus Mike Watt and someone I've never heard of. Album is out early November.
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Re: So- how didn't I know the new Wire was out?
Two bassists?!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 12:59pm
Another new Wire spin-off group, Fitted, featuring Lewis and Simms, plus Mike Watt and someone I've never heard of. Album is out early November.
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I'd guess that Lewis doesn't play in that situation.Kory wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 1:28pmTwo bassists?!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 12:59pm
Another new Wire spin-off group, Fitted, featuring Lewis and Simms, plus Mike Watt and someone I've never heard of. Album is out early November.
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New album in January: https://pinkflag.greedbag.com/mailouts/ ... s-22-10-19
The first listen of the single was a bit of a shrug for me. Leans too much in the direction of Colin's Githead for me. It's not bad, but … slight.
But they're coming to my town, so I have to rustle up someone to go with me.
The first listen of the single was a bit of a shrug for me. Leans too much in the direction of Colin's Githead for me. It's not bad, but … slight.
But they're coming to my town, so I have to rustle up someone to go with me.
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I have about the same reaction I've had to every single since O47, but the song descriptions seem interesting. Only 9 songs, huh?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑22 Oct 2019, 2:39pmNew album in January: https://pinkflag.greedbag.com/mailouts/ ... s-22-10-19
The first listen of the single was a bit of a shrug for me. Leans too much in the direction of Colin's Githead for me. It's not bad, but … slight.
But they're coming to my town, so I have to rustle up someone to go with me.
Looks like they won't be coming to Seattle, at least til later in the year.
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