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Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 9:55am
by revbob
matedog wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 9:42am
Are Tool and Mars Volta prog? I can get behind some of their stuff.
Aren't Tool metal? Maybe proggy metal, haven't heard a song of their's since I saw this 70 yo dude singing Sober at a karaoke place a while back.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 10:04am
by Dr. Medulla
My rough definition of prog is any genre that aspires to go beyond its basic formula and beyond the idea of entertainment or popular appeal. It seeks to make a statement or observation via the music in ways that we expect of high modernist art. Prog regards its source genre with a certain level of distaste, for being too easy and lazy and rote.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 10:33am
by Wolter
revbob wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 9:55am
matedog wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 9:42am
Are Tool and Mars Volta prog? I can get behind some of their stuff.
Aren't Tool metal? Maybe proggy metal, haven't heard a song of their's since I saw this 70 yo dude singing Sober at a karaoke place a while back.
There’s been a lot of blurring between those genres by several bands over the past 30 years. Opeth spent years straddling those genres as their career progressed (no pun intended) from a fairly standard death metal band with some prog elements, to more of a prog band with metal elements.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 11:37am
by JennyB
I like that Mr. Blue Sky song.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 12:17pm
by Flex
i like a lot of stuff wolt cites, and there's a lot of 60s stuff that's like on the seams between psych and prog from the 60s that's great. Bands like Rush can fuck right off tho.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 12:21pm
by revbob
Flex wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:17pm
i like a lot of stuff wolt cites, and there's a lot of 60s stuff that's like on the seams between psych and prog from the 60s that's great. Bands like Rush can fuck right off tho.
You've raised the ire of a nation.

Canada is gunning for you mister.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 12:23pm
by Flex
revbob wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:21pm
You've raised the ire of a nation.

Canada is gunning for you mister.
i'll be sure to leave out some squirrel traps tonight.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 12:44pm
by Wolter
revbob wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:21pm
Flex wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:17pm
i like a lot of stuff wolt cites, and there's a lot of 60s stuff that's like on the seams between psych and prog from the 60s that's great. Bands like Rush can fuck right off tho.
You've raised the ire of a nation.

Canada is gunning for you mister.
That should probably be in quotes.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 12:59pm
by Dr. Medulla
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:44pm
revbob wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:21pm
Flex wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:17pm
i like a lot of stuff wolt cites, and there's a lot of 60s stuff that's like on the seams between psych and prog from the 60s that's great. Bands like Rush can fuck right off tho.
You've raised the ire of a nation.

Canada is gunning for you mister.
That should probably be in quotes.
Our state has a long history of abusing non-white men. We more than qualify for nation status, mister. :naughty:

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 1:13pm
by Wolter
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:59pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:44pm
revbob wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:21pm
Flex wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:17pm
i like a lot of stuff wolt cites, and there's a lot of 60s stuff that's like on the seams between psych and prog from the 60s that's great. Bands like Rush can fuck right off tho.
You've raised the ire of a nation.

Canada is gunning for you mister.
That should probably be in quotes.
Our state has a long history of abusing non-white men. We more than qualify for nation status, mister. :naughty:
You mean “the state of North North Dakota?”

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 1:25pm
by Dr. Medulla
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 1:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:59pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:44pm
revbob wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:21pm
Flex wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:17pm
i like a lot of stuff wolt cites, and there's a lot of 60s stuff that's like on the seams between psych and prog from the 60s that's great. Bands like Rush can fuck right off tho.
You've raised the ire of a nation.

Canada is gunning for you mister.
That should probably be in quotes.
Our state has a long history of abusing non-white men. We more than qualify for nation status, mister. :naughty:
You mean “the state of North North Dakota?”
Well, I'll just get out of the way now and let millions of aggrieved Quebeckers tear into you and pour Pepsi on your bones.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 1:36pm
by Wolter
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 1:25pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 1:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:59pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:44pm
revbob wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:21pm


You've raised the ire of a nation.

Canada is gunning for you mister.
That should probably be in quotes.
Our state has a long history of abusing non-white men. We more than qualify for nation status, mister. :naughty:
You mean “the state of North North Dakota?”
Well, I'll just get out of the way now and let millions of aggrieved Quebeckers tear into you and pour Pepsi on your bones.
They can’t even get independence from Canada, so how scared can I be?

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 1:42pm
by Dr. Medulla
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 1:36pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 1:25pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 1:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:59pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 12:44pm


That should probably be in quotes.
Our state has a long history of abusing non-white men. We more than qualify for nation status, mister. :naughty:
You mean “the state of North North Dakota?”
Well, I'll just get out of the way now and let millions of aggrieved Quebeckers tear into you and pour Pepsi on your bones.
They can’t even get independence from Canada, so how scared can I be?
You'll see, you poor arrogant fool. Slighted Quebeckers are the most angry ex-girlfriend you've ever had.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 1:42pm
by Toppers Boppers
WestwayKid wrote:
28 Jun 2020, 4:22pm
I did not like prog growing up. The young punk in me detested it, but I had friends who liked it. As I've grown older I'm less judgmental about music and I've allowed myself to like some prog rock.

Thoughts on the genre?
I get that, these days I'm partial to some Steven Wilson stuff, he gets labelled as 'new-prog' although his music is a melting pot of styles and ideas. He also has a sideline remixing albums and has done several by King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Yes, Roxy Music and XTC.

Re: Your song is 5 minutes, that's just my intro - the PROG ROCK thread

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 3:11pm
by Kory
WestwayKid wrote:
28 Jun 2020, 4:22pm
I rewired my living room speakers last week and to test them out I grabbed a random record and came up with Close to the Edge by Yes. I put it on and my girlfriend commented that I picked the most white sounding music she's ever heard.

I did not like prog growing up. The young punk in me detested it, but I had friends who liked it. As I've grown older I'm less judgmental about music and I've allowed myself to like some prog rock.

Thoughts on the genre?
I think I might be the only actual fan of the genre here, I dig VDGG the most, but also Crimson, Gentle Giant, Camel, Yes from Fragile through Relayer, all Genesis before Gabriel left are great, and the two mostly instrumental albums afterward are ok. I'm lukewarm on ELP, but Tarkus is pretty great, along with Pictures at an Exhibition. I'm not super hot on the Canterbury scene but I have a few albums. My love of prog extends to the more technical jazz fusion of Mahavishnu, Return to Forever, etc. Phil Collins was also involved with a group called Brand X that was quite good. Given my vocal limitations, my own music probably falls most easily into the prog category; it was the only way I could think to make instrumental music interesting enough for me to write and record.