How confident are you? (Simonon content)
How confident are you? (Simonon content)
How confident are you that Paul Simonon plays the bass (without post production punch in) on the From Here to Eternity version of (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais? Curious to hear your thoughts. In any case, that is some fine dub reggae bass playing through out. I've had just two beers while the wife is showering upstairs, but I'm getting down hard to that bass. One of the greatest rock songs of all time. But you know that.
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Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
Listen to any live show from 1982, his actual playing is fine. He sometimes suffered from a farty sound but that was probably the feed to the desk.speakeasy wrote: ↑20 Sep 2020, 12:19amHow confident are you that Paul Simonon plays the bass (without post production punch in) on the From Here to Eternity version of (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais? Curious to hear your thoughts. In any case, that is some fine dub reggae bass playing through out. I've had just two beers while the wife is showering upstairs, but I'm getting down hard to that bass. One of the greatest rock songs of all time. But you know that.
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Yeah that farty sound reeks of a DI box. I'm not sure what the implication is here though, that somebody else was onstage playing bass?Heston wrote: ↑20 Sep 2020, 2:56amListen to any live show from 1982, his actual playing is fine. He sometimes suffered from a farty sound but that was probably the feed to the desk.speakeasy wrote: ↑20 Sep 2020, 12:19amHow confident are you that Paul Simonon plays the bass (without post production punch in) on the From Here to Eternity version of (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais? Curious to hear your thoughts. In any case, that is some fine dub reggae bass playing through out. I've had just two beers while the wife is showering upstairs, but I'm getting down hard to that bass. One of the greatest rock songs of all time. But you know that.
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Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
I think the implication was that someone (Mick?) overdubbed it in the studio sometime between 1982 and 1999. As far as I know, just the Rude Boy tracks have overdubs and are actually largely studio creations, though you and Heston have a far better ear for Paul's bass playing.Kory wrote: ↑22 Sep 2020, 1:43amYeah that farty sound reeks of a DI box. I'm not sure what the implication is here though, that somebody else was onstage playing bass?Heston wrote: ↑20 Sep 2020, 2:56amListen to any live show from 1982, his actual playing is fine. He sometimes suffered from a farty sound but that was probably the feed to the desk.speakeasy wrote: ↑20 Sep 2020, 12:19amHow confident are you that Paul Simonon plays the bass (without post production punch in) on the From Here to Eternity version of (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais? Curious to hear your thoughts. In any case, that is some fine dub reggae bass playing through out. I've had just two beers while the wife is showering upstairs, but I'm getting down hard to that bass. One of the greatest rock songs of all time. But you know that.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
Yea--I really wanted to give credit to Paul playing that bass part. It's so groovy. And then part of me did wonder--is there a chance that Mick (or someone) overdubbed this at a later date? I meant to post it on the Clash discussion area, but you know...beer.
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Quite a few 1982 gigs on YouTube where his bass sounds exactly the same. I've just did a side by side comparison with a couple of gigs and the playing is identical.
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Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
He was playing a lot of fingerstyle at this time, which could certainly account for a rounder tone. I haven't listened to this track in forever but I'll give it a go today.
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Do you mean not using a pick?Kory wrote: ↑22 Sep 2020, 1:50pmHe was playing a lot of fingerstyle at this time, which could certainly account for a rounder tone. I haven't listened to this track in forever but I'll give it a go today.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
Not helpful but I've just had FHTE on the last hour and it's been such a fucking joy.
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It is great. Due a spin.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
Yeah. Although he plays thumbstyle these days. He's a constantly developing bassist.matedog wrote: ↑22 Sep 2020, 1:54pmDo you mean not using a pick?Kory wrote: ↑22 Sep 2020, 1:50pmHe was playing a lot of fingerstyle at this time, which could certainly account for a rounder tone. I haven't listened to this track in forever but I'll give it a go today.
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To answer the original question: I’m not particularly confident. Very awkward.
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Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
Yep I know 100% fact that Paul plays a bass.
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Re: How confident are you? (Simonon content)
Hello,
Plays or wears?
(Sorry, Paul that was cruel - but easy!)