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Wolter wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 9:51am
RockNRollWhore wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 5:42am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:07pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 3:42pm


Yeah that was the album we wanted. But GT made the statement they wanted. I wasn't very impressed by them wanting to be as big as G 'n' R. James is a killer guitar player but at that point he was winging it.
Oh don’t get me wrong GT is a fantastic record, I adore the absolutely bloat and ambition of it. It would just be nice to hear the songs in stripped down punk form as well. Come to think of it, outside of THB, they’ve always been incredibly well produced and slick. Even Know Your Enemy has the kitchen sink thrown at it in places
They had Steve Brown on GT who produced The Cult. They wanted to go straight to GEER and bypass The Clash. They didn't sound the same band live.
They tried to get the bomb squad to produce the entire thing initially, which would have most certainly prematurely sabotaged their entire career and gone done as a worse folly than cut the crap.
Counterpoint: could’ve been rad.
Wasn't that just for Repeat? Didn't they also mention that it was only aN associate of the Bomb Squad who actually did the remix. Added nothing to GT and should've been an extra a single.
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Wolter wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 9:51am
RockNRollWhore wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 5:42am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:07pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 3:42pm


Yeah that was the album we wanted. But GT made the statement they wanted. I wasn't very impressed by them wanting to be as big as G 'n' R. James is a killer guitar player but at that point he was winging it.
Oh don’t get me wrong GT is a fantastic record, I adore the absolutely bloat and ambition of it. It would just be nice to hear the songs in stripped down punk form as well. Come to think of it, outside of THB, they’ve always been incredibly well produced and slick. Even Know Your Enemy has the kitchen sink thrown at it in places
They had Steve Brown on GT who produced The Cult. They wanted to go straight to GEER and bypass The Clash. They didn't sound the same band live.
They tried to get the bomb squad to produce the entire thing initially, which would have most certainly prematurely sabotaged their entire career and gone done as a worse folly than cut the crap.
Counterpoint: could’ve been rad.
The Stars and Stripes version of Repeat is pure cheese. Actually sounds like a CTC outtake.
I just thought of a brilliant new idea actually, how about we take classic albums and give them the EET week treatment? Drum machines and all.

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RockNRollWhore wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 2:01pm
Wolter wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 9:51am
RockNRollWhore wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 5:42am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:07pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:00pm


Oh don’t get me wrong GT is a fantastic record, I adore the absolutely bloat and ambition of it. It would just be nice to hear the songs in stripped down punk form as well. Come to think of it, outside of THB, they’ve always been incredibly well produced and slick. Even Know Your Enemy has the kitchen sink thrown at it in places
They had Steve Brown on GT who produced The Cult. They wanted to go straight to GEER and bypass The Clash. They didn't sound the same band live.
They tried to get the bomb squad to produce the entire thing initially, which would have most certainly prematurely sabotaged their entire career and gone done as a worse folly than cut the crap.
Counterpoint: could’ve been rad.
The Stars and Stripes version of Repeat is pure cheese. Actually sounds like a CTC outtake.
I just thought of a brilliant new idea actually, how about we take classic albums and give them the EET week treatment? Drum machines and all.
We've all ready done various versions of CtC down the years.
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Marky Dread wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 3:17pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 2:01pm
Wolter wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 9:51am
RockNRollWhore wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 5:42am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:07pm


They had Steve Brown on GT who produced The Cult. They wanted to go straight to GEER and bypass The Clash. They didn't sound the same band live.
They tried to get the bomb squad to produce the entire thing initially, which would have most certainly prematurely sabotaged their entire career and gone done as a worse folly than cut the crap.
Counterpoint: could’ve been rad.
The Stars and Stripes version of Repeat is pure cheese. Actually sounds like a CTC outtake.
I just thought of a brilliant new idea actually, how about we take classic albums and give them the EET week treatment? Drum machines and all.
We've all ready done various versions of CtC down the years.
Nah I’m saying like take a classic album like Rubber Soul but cover with drum machines and dx7’s and choir chants.

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They tried to get the bomb squad to produce the entire thing initially, which would have most certainly prematurely sabotaged their entire career and gone done as a worse folly than cut the crap.
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Counterpoint: could’ve been rad.
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The Stars and Stripes version of Repeat is pure cheese. Actually sounds like a CTC outtake.
I just thought of a brilliant new idea actually, how about we take classic albums and give them the EET week treatment? Drum machines and all.
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We've all ready done various versions of CtC down the years.
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Nah I’m saying like take a classic album like Rubber Soul but cover with drum machines and dx7’s and choir chants.
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Umm no.
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I’m guessing Kevin Rowland has taken up the challenge with Too-Rye-Aye. Will be interesting done in a CtC style :scared:

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laxman wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 8:43am
I’m guessing Kevin Rowland has taken up the challenge with Too-Rye-Aye. Will be interesting done in a CtC style :scared:

https://store.universalmusic.com/dexys/ ... nn5Yi7ppg8
Nothing wrong with how it sounded. So is this an attempt to go back to the Northern Soul feel of "Searching" ?
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Marky Dread wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 10:02am
laxman wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 8:43am
I’m guessing Kevin Rowland has taken up the challenge with Too-Rye-Aye. Will be interesting done in a CtC style :scared:

https://store.universalmusic.com/dexys/ ... nn5Yi7ppg8
Nothing wrong with how it sounded. So is this an attempt to go back to the Northern Soul feel of "Searching" ?
Agreed, but our Kevin is a bit of a perfectionist.

I'm not sure what the changes are, maybe it will be more like how they have played the tracks live in recent years. I'm definitely getting it.

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laxman wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 10:58am
Marky Dread wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 10:02am
laxman wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 8:43am
I’m guessing Kevin Rowland has taken up the challenge with Too-Rye-Aye. Will be interesting done in a CtC style :scared:

https://store.universalmusic.com/dexys/ ... nn5Yi7ppg8
Nothing wrong with how it sounded. So is this an attempt to go back to the Northern Soul feel of "Searching" ?
Agreed, but our Kevin is a bit of a perfectionist.

I'm not sure what the changes are, maybe it will be more like how they have played the tracks live in recent years. I'm definitely getting it.
I'll sit in reserved judgement.
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Quick Manics question: A few years back I heard a remixed version of Stay Beautiful on the radio. It sounded much better than the original release, does anyone know where this might exist?
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:19pm
Quick Manics question: A few years back I heard a remixed version of Stay Beautiful on the radio. It sounded much better than the original release, does anyone know where this might exist?
Possibly the remixed version from reissued Generation Terrorists album. Sounds clearer than the original released single/cd. The keys sound louder around the one minute mark. But the whole thing is pushed to the max just barely under the parameters. Here you can see the original cd single and the remastered version.
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Marky Dread wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:35pm
Heston wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:19pm
Quick Manics question: A few years back I heard a remixed version of Stay Beautiful on the radio. It sounded much better than the original release, does anyone know where this might exist?
Possibly the remixed version from reissued Generation Terrorists album. Sounds clearer than the original released single/cd. The keys sound louder around the one minute mark. But the whole thing is pushed to the max just barely under the parameters. Here you can see the original cd single and the remastered version.
This was quite a drastic remix iirc. Maybe the radio just made it sound different.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Marky Dread wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:35pm
Heston wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:19pm
Quick Manics question: A few years back I heard a remixed version of Stay Beautiful on the radio. It sounded much better than the original release, does anyone know where this might exist?
Possibly the remixed version from reissued Generation Terrorists album. Sounds clearer than the original released single/cd. The keys sound louder around the one minute mark. But the whole thing is pushed to the max just barely under the parameters. Here you can see the original cd single and the remastered version.
I've always preferred the original despite it being a little bit "quiet". I do think the record is too bass heavy though. Bit murky.

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Heston wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 3:03pm
Marky Dread wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:35pm
Heston wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:19pm
Quick Manics question: A few years back I heard a remixed version of Stay Beautiful on the radio. It sounded much better than the original release, does anyone know where this might exist?
Possibly the remixed version from reissued Generation Terrorists album. Sounds clearer than the original released single/cd. The keys sound louder around the one minute mark. But the whole thing is pushed to the max just barely under the parameters. Here you can see the original cd single and the remastered version.
This was quite a drastic remix iirc. Maybe the radio just made it sound different.
Listening to KISS while on magic mushrooms can do strange things to your ears. ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 4:38pm
Heston wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 3:03pm
Marky Dread wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:35pm
Heston wrote:
06 Sep 2021, 2:19pm
Quick Manics question: A few years back I heard a remixed version of Stay Beautiful on the radio. It sounded much better than the original release, does anyone know where this might exist?
Possibly the remixed version from reissued Generation Terrorists album. Sounds clearer than the original released single/cd. The keys sound louder around the one minute mark. But the whole thing is pushed to the max just barely under the parameters. Here you can see the original cd single and the remastered version.
This was quite a drastic remix iirc. Maybe the radio just made it sound different.
Listening to KISS while on magic mushrooms can do strange things to your ears. ;)
Hey, I'm a fun guy.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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