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Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 1:15pm
So my question to Mr. RNRW is why as a big Manics fan did you not already have it?

Oh and just to prove I'm all heart.

Here is the track that pre-dates "Faceless Sense of Void" / "Love's Sweet Exile".

"Just Can't Be Happy"

https://mega.nz/file/YlQSnDST#dRdy5HvCc ... 1okM_g6WlU

Have fun ...stay beautiful.
Cheers Marky.

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Thanks Marky, and that reminded me that I do have Faceless Sense of Void on the deluxe box set.

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Have listened to the new record twice today. Possibly one of the best things they’ve ever done. They’ve finally broken out of the old holding pattern of making a manics record. Seems to be a lot more focus on space and instrumental passages. It’s a lot more organic sounding than the lead off singles would have you believe as well. Beautiful record.

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laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:37pm
Thanks Marky, and that reminded me that I do have Faceless Sense of Void on the deluxe box set.
So do I thanks to my Starlover. ;)

I'm still in the process of cleaning up these.

Behave Yourself Baby - Alt. Take not released
Just Can't Be Happy (Uploaded)
Eating Myself from the Inside
Razorblade Beat
Sun-Glass Aesthetic
This Girls Got Nothing
Whiskey Psychosis
England Is a Bitch
Where Have All the Good Times Gone
Dying a Thousand Deaths
Love in a Make-Up Bag
RP McMurphy (Full band demo)
Repeat After Me (Feminine Is Beautiful version)

And the gig from the Horse & Groom, London, August 1989.

New Art Riot
Soul Contamination
Dead Yankee Drawl
Anti-Love
Strip It Down
Destroy the Dancefloor
Sorrow 16
Faceless Sense of Void
Suicide Alley

Was there you know.
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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RockNRollWhore wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:43pm
Have listened to the new record twice today. Possibly one of the best things they’ve ever done. They’ve finally broken out of the old holding pattern of making a manics record. Seems to be a lot more focus on space and instrumental passages. It’s a lot more organic sounding than the lead off singles would have you believe as well. Beautiful record.
Definitely looking forward to it now.

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Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:51pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:37pm
Thanks Marky, and that reminded me that I do have Faceless Sense of Void on the deluxe box set.
So do I thanks to my Starlover. ;)

I'm still in the process of cleaning up these.

Behave Yourself Baby - Alt. Take not released
Just Can't Be Happy (Uploaded)
Eating Myself from the Inside
Razorblade Beat
Sun-Glass Aesthetic
This Girls Got Nothing
Whiskey Psychosis
England Is a Bitch
Where Have All the Good Times Gone
Dying a Thousand Deaths
Love in a Make-Up Bag
RP McMurphy (Full band demo)
Repeat After Me (Feminine Is Beautiful version)

And the gig from the Horse & Groom, London, August 1989.

New Art Riot
Soul Contamination
Dead Yankee Drawl
Anti-Love
Strip It Down
Destroy the Dancefloor
Sorrow 16
Faceless Sense of Void
Suicide Alley

Was there you know.
Oh yes, even though it was incomplete I hope it was worth having.

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laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:13pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:51pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:37pm
Thanks Marky, and that reminded me that I do have Faceless Sense of Void on the deluxe box set.
So do I thanks to my Starlover. ;)

I'm still in the process of cleaning up these.

Behave Yourself Baby - Alt. Take not released
Just Can't Be Happy (Uploaded)
Eating Myself from the Inside
Razorblade Beat
Sun-Glass Aesthetic
This Girls Got Nothing
Whiskey Psychosis
England Is a Bitch
Where Have All the Good Times Gone
Dying a Thousand Deaths
Love in a Make-Up Bag
RP McMurphy (Full band demo)
Repeat After Me (Feminine Is Beautiful version)

And the gig from the Horse & Groom, London, August 1989.

New Art Riot
Soul Contamination
Dead Yankee Drawl
Anti-Love
Strip It Down
Destroy the Dancefloor
Sorrow 16
Faceless Sense of Void
Suicide Alley

Was there you know.
Oh yes, even though it was incomplete I hope it was worth having.
I bid for the single on Ebay recently but I fell asleep and got outbid. X(
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:21pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:13pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:51pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:37pm
Thanks Marky, and that reminded me that I do have Faceless Sense of Void on the deluxe box set.
So do I thanks to my Starlover. ;)

I'm still in the process of cleaning up these.

Behave Yourself Baby - Alt. Take not released
Just Can't Be Happy (Uploaded)
Eating Myself from the Inside
Razorblade Beat
Sun-Glass Aesthetic
This Girls Got Nothing
Whiskey Psychosis
England Is a Bitch
Where Have All the Good Times Gone
Dying a Thousand Deaths
Love in a Make-Up Bag
RP McMurphy (Full band demo)
Repeat After Me (Feminine Is Beautiful version)

And the gig from the Horse & Groom, London, August 1989.

New Art Riot
Soul Contamination
Dead Yankee Drawl
Anti-Love
Strip It Down
Destroy the Dancefloor
Sorrow 16
Faceless Sense of Void
Suicide Alley

Was there you know.
Oh yes, even though it was incomplete I hope it was worth having.
I bid for the single on Ebay recently but I fell asleep and got outbid. X(
Is it true that 90% of those in attendance laughed them off as a Clash rip off band?

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RockNRollWhore wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:08pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:21pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:13pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:51pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:37pm
Thanks Marky, and that reminded me that I do have Faceless Sense of Void on the deluxe box set.
So do I thanks to my Starlover. ;)

I'm still in the process of cleaning up these.

Behave Yourself Baby - Alt. Take not released
Just Can't Be Happy (Uploaded)
Eating Myself from the Inside
Razorblade Beat
Sun-Glass Aesthetic
This Girls Got Nothing
Whiskey Psychosis
England Is a Bitch
Where Have All the Good Times Gone
Dying a Thousand Deaths
Love in a Make-Up Bag
RP McMurphy (Full band demo)
Repeat After Me (Feminine Is Beautiful version)

And the gig from the Horse & Groom, London, August 1989.

New Art Riot
Soul Contamination
Dead Yankee Drawl
Anti-Love
Strip It Down
Destroy the Dancefloor
Sorrow 16
Faceless Sense of Void
Suicide Alley

Was there you know.
Oh yes, even though it was incomplete I hope it was worth having.
I bid for the single on Ebay recently but I fell asleep and got outbid. X(
Is it true that 90% of those in attendance laughed them off as a Clash rip off band?
They went down well. Only the press gave them a hard time and some of the other bands they tried to blag a support slot with.

I didn't think they sounded like The Clash anyway. Just the energy and the stenciled shirts. Their look was more like Generation X to me. But they had that thing where you knew they would make it. Determination and desire and a bravery in the face of current trends. They knew they were not that great at this point but that with perseverance they would get there. In fairness it didn't take them long. By the time they got to release "Motown Junk" no one was laughing anymore.
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:50pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:08pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:21pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:13pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 2:51pm


So do I thanks to my Starlover. ;)

I'm still in the process of cleaning up these.

Behave Yourself Baby - Alt. Take not released
Just Can't Be Happy (Uploaded)
Eating Myself from the Inside
Razorblade Beat
Sun-Glass Aesthetic
This Girls Got Nothing
Whiskey Psychosis
England Is a Bitch
Where Have All the Good Times Gone
Dying a Thousand Deaths
Love in a Make-Up Bag
RP McMurphy (Full band demo)
Repeat After Me (Feminine Is Beautiful version)

And the gig from the Horse & Groom, London, August 1989.

New Art Riot
Soul Contamination
Dead Yankee Drawl
Anti-Love
Strip It Down
Destroy the Dancefloor
Sorrow 16
Faceless Sense of Void
Suicide Alley

Was there you know.
Oh yes, even though it was incomplete I hope it was worth having.
I bid for the single on Ebay recently but I fell asleep and got outbid. X(
Is it true that 90% of those in attendance laughed them off as a Clash rip off band?
They went down well. Only the press gave them a hard time and some of the other bands they tried to blag a support slot with.

I didn't think they sounded like The Clash anyway. Just the energy and the stenciled shirts. Their look was more like Generation X to me. But they had that thing where you knew they would make it. Determination and desire and a bravery in the face of current trends. They knew they were not that great at this point but that with perseverance they would get there. In fairness it didn't take them long. By the time they got to release "Motown Junk" no one was laughing anymore.
I think the cover of Suicide alley is where they got a lot of that shit talking from. In all due fairness it pretty much is a spitting image knock off of that first clash record. You're totally right about Motown Junk. All of that early heavenly stuff is fantastic. New Art Riot, Sorrow 16, Spectators of Suicide, Strip it down....
Part of me wishes they made a scrappy punk record before GT. This is what I've compiled:

Motown Junk
New Art Riot
You Love Us (Heavenly)
Generation Terrorists (Stay Beautiful)
Sorrow 16
Strip it Down
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
Suicide Alley
Last Exit on Yesterday
Tenessee
Teenage 20/20
Starlover
Spectators of Suicide

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RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 12:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:50pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:08pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:21pm
laxman wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:13pm


Oh yes, even though it was incomplete I hope it was worth having.
I bid for the single on Ebay recently but I fell asleep and got outbid. X(
Is it true that 90% of those in attendance laughed them off as a Clash rip off band?
They went down well. Only the press gave them a hard time and some of the other bands they tried to blag a support slot with.

I didn't think they sounded like The Clash anyway. Just the energy and the stenciled shirts. Their look was more like Generation X to me. But they had that thing where you knew they would make it. Determination and desire and a bravery in the face of current trends. They knew they were not that great at this point but that with perseverance they would get there. In fairness it didn't take them long. By the time they got to release "Motown Junk" no one was laughing anymore.
I think the cover of Suicide alley is where they got a lot of that shit talking from. In all due fairness it pretty much is a spitting image knock off of that first clash record. You're totally right about Motown Junk. All of that early heavenly stuff is fantastic. New Art Riot, Sorrow 16, Spectators of Suicide, Strip it down....
Part of me wishes they made a scrappy punk record before GT. This is what I've compiled:

Motown Junk
New Art Riot
You Love Us (Heavenly)
Generation Terrorists (Stay Beautiful)
Sorrow 16
Strip it Down
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
Suicide Alley
Last Exit on Yesterday
Tenessee
Teenage 20/20
Starlover
Spectators of Suicide
Yeah that was the album we wanted. But GT made the statement they wanted. I wasn't very impressed by them wanting to be as big as G 'n' R. James is a killer guitar player but at that point he was winging it.
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 3:42pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 12:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:50pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:08pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 3:21pm


I bid for the single on Ebay recently but I fell asleep and got outbid. X(
Is it true that 90% of those in attendance laughed them off as a Clash rip off band?
They went down well. Only the press gave them a hard time and some of the other bands they tried to blag a support slot with.

I didn't think they sounded like The Clash anyway. Just the energy and the stenciled shirts. Their look was more like Generation X to me. But they had that thing where you knew they would make it. Determination and desire and a bravery in the face of current trends. They knew they were not that great at this point but that with perseverance they would get there. In fairness it didn't take them long. By the time they got to release "Motown Junk" no one was laughing anymore.
I think the cover of Suicide alley is where they got a lot of that shit talking from. In all due fairness it pretty much is a spitting image knock off of that first clash record. You're totally right about Motown Junk. All of that early heavenly stuff is fantastic. New Art Riot, Sorrow 16, Spectators of Suicide, Strip it down....
Part of me wishes they made a scrappy punk record before GT. This is what I've compiled:

Motown Junk
New Art Riot
You Love Us (Heavenly)
Generation Terrorists (Stay Beautiful)
Sorrow 16
Strip it Down
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
Suicide Alley
Last Exit on Yesterday
Tenessee
Teenage 20/20
Starlover
Spectators of Suicide
Yeah that was the album we wanted. But GT made the statement they wanted. I wasn't very impressed by them wanting to be as big as G 'n' R. James is a killer guitar player but at that point he was winging it.
Oh don’t get me wrong GT is a fantastic record, I adore the absolutely bloat and ambition of it. It would just be nice to hear the songs in stripped down punk form as well. Come to think of it, outside of THB, they’ve always been incredibly well produced and slick. Even Know Your Enemy has the kitchen sink thrown at it in places

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RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 3:42pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 12:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:50pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:08pm


Is it true that 90% of those in attendance laughed them off as a Clash rip off band?
They went down well. Only the press gave them a hard time and some of the other bands they tried to blag a support slot with.

I didn't think they sounded like The Clash anyway. Just the energy and the stenciled shirts. Their look was more like Generation X to me. But they had that thing where you knew they would make it. Determination and desire and a bravery in the face of current trends. They knew they were not that great at this point but that with perseverance they would get there. In fairness it didn't take them long. By the time they got to release "Motown Junk" no one was laughing anymore.
I think the cover of Suicide alley is where they got a lot of that shit talking from. In all due fairness it pretty much is a spitting image knock off of that first clash record. You're totally right about Motown Junk. All of that early heavenly stuff is fantastic. New Art Riot, Sorrow 16, Spectators of Suicide, Strip it down....
Part of me wishes they made a scrappy punk record before GT. This is what I've compiled:

Motown Junk
New Art Riot
You Love Us (Heavenly)
Generation Terrorists (Stay Beautiful)
Sorrow 16
Strip it Down
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
Suicide Alley
Last Exit on Yesterday
Tenessee
Teenage 20/20
Starlover
Spectators of Suicide
Yeah that was the album we wanted. But GT made the statement they wanted. I wasn't very impressed by them wanting to be as big as G 'n' R. James is a killer guitar player but at that point he was winging it.
Oh don’t get me wrong GT is a fantastic record, I adore the absolutely bloat and ambition of it. It would just be nice to hear the songs in stripped down punk form as well. Come to think of it, outside of THB, they’ve always been incredibly well produced and slick. Even Know Your Enemy has the kitchen sink thrown at it in places
They had Steve Brown on GT who produced The Cult. They wanted to go straight to GEER and bypass The Clash. They didn't sound the same band live.
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:07pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 3:42pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 12:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 6:50pm


They went down well. Only the press gave them a hard time and some of the other bands they tried to blag a support slot with.

I didn't think they sounded like The Clash anyway. Just the energy and the stenciled shirts. Their look was more like Generation X to me. But they had that thing where you knew they would make it. Determination and desire and a bravery in the face of current trends. They knew they were not that great at this point but that with perseverance they would get there. In fairness it didn't take them long. By the time they got to release "Motown Junk" no one was laughing anymore.
I think the cover of Suicide alley is where they got a lot of that shit talking from. In all due fairness it pretty much is a spitting image knock off of that first clash record. You're totally right about Motown Junk. All of that early heavenly stuff is fantastic. New Art Riot, Sorrow 16, Spectators of Suicide, Strip it down....
Part of me wishes they made a scrappy punk record before GT. This is what I've compiled:

Motown Junk
New Art Riot
You Love Us (Heavenly)
Generation Terrorists (Stay Beautiful)
Sorrow 16
Strip it Down
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
Suicide Alley
Last Exit on Yesterday
Tenessee
Teenage 20/20
Starlover
Spectators of Suicide
Yeah that was the album we wanted. But GT made the statement they wanted. I wasn't very impressed by them wanting to be as big as G 'n' R. James is a killer guitar player but at that point he was winging it.
Oh don’t get me wrong GT is a fantastic record, I adore the absolutely bloat and ambition of it. It would just be nice to hear the songs in stripped down punk form as well. Come to think of it, outside of THB, they’ve always been incredibly well produced and slick. Even Know Your Enemy has the kitchen sink thrown at it in places
They had Steve Brown on GT who produced The Cult. They wanted to go straight to GEER and bypass The Clash. They didn't sound the same band live.
They tried to get the bomb squad to produce the entire thing initially, which would have most certainly prematurely sabotaged their entire career and gone down as a worse folly than cut the crap.
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RockNRollWhore wrote:
05 Sep 2021, 5:42am
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:07pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 4:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 3:42pm
RockNRollWhore wrote:
04 Sep 2021, 12:17pm


I think the cover of Suicide alley is where they got a lot of that shit talking from. In all due fairness it pretty much is a spitting image knock off of that first clash record. You're totally right about Motown Junk. All of that early heavenly stuff is fantastic. New Art Riot, Sorrow 16, Spectators of Suicide, Strip it down....
Part of me wishes they made a scrappy punk record before GT. This is what I've compiled:

Motown Junk
New Art Riot
You Love Us (Heavenly)
Generation Terrorists (Stay Beautiful)
Sorrow 16
Strip it Down
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
Suicide Alley
Last Exit on Yesterday
Tenessee
Teenage 20/20
Starlover
Spectators of Suicide
Yeah that was the album we wanted. But GT made the statement they wanted. I wasn't very impressed by them wanting to be as big as G 'n' R. James is a killer guitar player but at that point he was winging it.
Oh don’t get me wrong GT is a fantastic record, I adore the absolutely bloat and ambition of it. It would just be nice to hear the songs in stripped down punk form as well. Come to think of it, outside of THB, they’ve always been incredibly well produced and slick. Even Know Your Enemy has the kitchen sink thrown at it in places
They had Steve Brown on GT who produced The Cult. They wanted to go straight to GEER and bypass The Clash. They didn't sound the same band live.
They tried to get the bomb squad to produce the entire thing initially, which would have most certainly prematurely sabotaged their entire career and gone done as a worse folly than cut the crap.
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