Got Any Cool Vinyl?

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Flex wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 2:26pm
It's been a few years since I've bothered with RSD. Absolutely no shade to anyone here who's been picking up stuff they enjoy, sincerely, but overall the element of conspicuous consumption increasingly makes me want to puke.

It's obviously always been a "retail holiday" and buying shit was the point, but it made an impression on me when I've read testimonials from smaller labels and record stores that they've come really dislike RSD. The margins are pretty thin and every year the big labels are taking up more and more of the manufacturing capacity and flooding the market and muscling out the indie outfits that this event was ostensibly originally designed to promote. And consumers lap it up. Special variant pressings (often poorly made and badly mastered for vinyl) of ubiquitous dreck from the 80s and 90s that you could pick up on CD for 50 cents instead costs you 60 bucks for the privilege of hearing a CD pressed to vinyl. Gross.

Theres still plenty of good stuff out there, but I see the photos of lines for cash registers going around the block all to put money in the hands of UmG or whoever and I increasingly want no part of it.

/End rant (and, again, sincerely no shade to anyone who enjoys their vinyl goodies. I get it, and those of us here are more inclined to be buying from the indie labels and stores that are doing things the right way)
I mentioned this stuff way back and got some short shrift at the time for my views. My main beef was the stuff that ended up on Ebay without any chance of genuine fans getting them from the retail outlet. Now it's even worse with bad pressings and some (not all) bad releases. Way more thought and care should be going into these RSD releases but then thought and care doesn't equal dollars and pounds.
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Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:36pm
I mentioned this stuff way back and got some short shrift at the time for my views. My main beef was the stuff that ended up on Ebay without any chance of genuine fans getting them from the retail outlet. Now it's even worse with bad pressings and some (not all) bad releases. Way more thought and care should be going into these RSD releases but then thought and care doesn't equal dollars and pounds.
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Flex wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 2:26pm
It's been a few years since I've bothered with RSD. Absolutely no shade to anyone here who's been picking up stuff they enjoy, sincerely, but overall the element of conspicuous consumption increasingly makes me want to puke.

It's obviously always been a "retail holiday" and buying shit was the point, but it made an impression on me when I've read testimonials from smaller labels and record stores that they've come really dislike RSD. The margins are pretty thin and every year the big labels are taking up more and more of the manufacturing capacity and flooding the market and muscling out the indie outfits that this event was ostensibly originally designed to promote. And consumers lap it up. Special variant pressings (often poorly made and badly mastered for vinyl) of ubiquitous dreck from the 80s and 90s that you could pick up on CD for 50 cents instead costs you 60 bucks for the privilege of hearing a CD pressed to vinyl. Gross.

Theres still plenty of good stuff out there, but I see the photos of lines for cash registers going around the block all to put money in the hands of UmG or whoever and I increasingly want no part of it.

/End rant (and, again, sincerely no shade to anyone who enjoys their vinyl goodies. I get it, and those of us here are more inclined to be buying from the indie labels and stores that are doing things the right way)
Yes I agree totally mate.
I went today at midday to avoid the hordes of Taylor swift fans (or whoever may be in trend at this time),I knew the few bits I wanted and thankfully they were still there, however I was hoping some wouldn't be to save some cash!
The shop I use are mates of mine and have released a couple of my own records in the past, I know they gamble big time with the initial lay out for this stuff and so I'm happy to buy from them as it's always cheaper than giving any money to that tyrannical cunt bezos...
Last we (Snapblades) played rsd in the shop and it was quite horrible...

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Sparky wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 11:12am
motorsmell wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 10:35am
Today's bounty of RSD releases...was a couple of others I was thinking about but I'd spent enough...the gallen and paul E.P has a signed art card too!
Congratulations! Guess I lost track of dates and didn't get out early enough this morning to see what my local vinyl shop had. Maybe I'll head over later this morning and see if there's anything that interests me left in stock.
I turned up at 12 and all this stuff was easily attainable...sure its the same most places...thankfully my preferences are not as popular as whatever rubbish is currently being carved to oblivion by a crossley cruiser...

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motorsmell wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 4:14pm
Yes I agree totally mate.
I went today at midday to avoid the hordes of Taylor swift fans (or whoever may be in trend at this time),I knew the few bits I wanted and thankfully they were still there, however I was hoping some wouldn't be to save some cash!
The shop I use are mates of mine and have released a couple of my own records in the past, I know they gamble big time with the initial lay out for this stuff and so I'm happy to buy from them as it's always cheaper than giving any money to that tyrannical cunt bezos...
Last we (Snapblades) played rsd in the shop and it was quite horrible...
You're definitely doing it the way it's intended. You know the score even better than I (and nice haul today, as well :cool: )
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Flex wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:57pm
Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:36pm
I mentioned this stuff way back and got some short shrift at the time for my views. My main beef was the stuff that ended up on Ebay without any chance of genuine fans getting them from the retail outlet. Now it's even worse with bad pressings and some (not all) bad releases. Way more thought and care should be going into these RSD releases but then thought and care doesn't equal dollars and pounds.
You're always ahead of your time, Mr. Dread ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:36pm
Flex wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 2:26pm
It's been a few years since I've bothered with RSD. Absolutely no shade to anyone here who's been picking up stuff they enjoy, sincerely, but overall the element of conspicuous consumption increasingly makes me want to puke.

It's obviously always been a "retail holiday" and buying shit was the point, but it made an impression on me when I've read testimonials from smaller labels and record stores that they've come really dislike RSD. The margins are pretty thin and every year the big labels are taking up more and more of the manufacturing capacity and flooding the market and muscling out the indie outfits that this event was ostensibly originally designed to promote. And consumers lap it up. Special variant pressings (often poorly made and badly mastered for vinyl) of ubiquitous dreck from the 80s and 90s that you could pick up on CD for 50 cents instead costs you 60 bucks for the privilege of hearing a CD pressed to vinyl. Gross.

Theres still plenty of good stuff out there, but I see the photos of lines for cash registers going around the block all to put money in the hands of UmG or whoever and I increasingly want no part of it.

/End rant (and, again, sincerely no shade to anyone who enjoys their vinyl goodies. I get it, and those of us here are more inclined to be buying from the indie labels and stores that are doing things the right way)
I mentioned this stuff way back and got some short shrift at the time for my views. My main beef was the stuff that ended up on Ebay without any chance of genuine fans getting them from the retail outlet. Now it's even worse with bad pressings and some (not all) bad releases. Way more thought and care should be going into these RSD releases but then thought and care doesn't equal dollars and pounds.
Yeah there is some very shit pressings rushed out for thus and then selling for double on ebay etc...I've fallen for a couple in the past but this year everything is proper and correct...I think the key is let the white get sold early and go in late to find the proper stuff. The Motorhead one is unesesary and a cash grab but some of the versions I e never heard...last new motorhead lp for me...lem would be turning g in his grave if he had one...

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motorsmell wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 4:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:36pm
Flex wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 2:26pm
It's been a few years since I've bothered with RSD. Absolutely no shade to anyone here who's been picking up stuff they enjoy, sincerely, but overall the element of conspicuous consumption increasingly makes me want to puke.

It's obviously always been a "retail holiday" and buying shit was the point, but it made an impression on me when I've read testimonials from smaller labels and record stores that they've come really dislike RSD. The margins are pretty thin and every year the big labels are taking up more and more of the manufacturing capacity and flooding the market and muscling out the indie outfits that this event was ostensibly originally designed to promote. And consumers lap it up. Special variant pressings (often poorly made and badly mastered for vinyl) of ubiquitous dreck from the 80s and 90s that you could pick up on CD for 50 cents instead costs you 60 bucks for the privilege of hearing a CD pressed to vinyl. Gross.

Theres still plenty of good stuff out there, but I see the photos of lines for cash registers going around the block all to put money in the hands of UmG or whoever and I increasingly want no part of it.

/End rant (and, again, sincerely no shade to anyone who enjoys their vinyl goodies. I get it, and those of us here are more inclined to be buying from the indie labels and stores that are doing things the right way)
I mentioned this stuff way back and got some short shrift at the time for my views. My main beef was the stuff that ended up on Ebay without any chance of genuine fans getting them from the retail outlet. Now it's even worse with bad pressings and some (not all) bad releases. Way more thought and care should be going into these RSD releases but then thought and care doesn't equal dollars and pounds.
Yeah there is some very shit pressings rushed out for thus and then selling for double on ebay etc...I've fallen for a couple in the past but this year everything is proper and correct...I think the key is let the white get sold early and go in late to find the proper stuff. The Motorhead one is unesesary and a cash grab but some of the versions I e never heard...last new motorhead lp for me...lem would be turning g in his grave if he had one...
I feel good for anyone who gets something neat by a band they love. Like a test pressing or other rarity. But these things are being made for that sole purpose nowadays. I got an email from Cadiz music today where there are white label test pressings for RSD of 7" and 12" with a signed cerificate of singles by the likes of The Wingmen and Viv Albertine that are for sale for £75.00... seriously!

Now I hear people saying "no one's forcing you to buy them" and they would be right. However is it really necessary to rip off fans this way. These things used to become collectables over a period of time once the initial batches had run out at a standard price. But now they are being made as a collectable instantly. I think this just sucks as a marketing rip off.
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Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 4:33pm
Flex wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:57pm
Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:36pm
I mentioned this stuff way back and got some short shrift at the time for my views. My main beef was the stuff that ended up on Ebay without any chance of genuine fans getting them from the retail outlet. Now it's even worse with bad pressings and some (not all) bad releases. Way more thought and care should be going into these RSD releases but then thought and care doesn't equal dollars and pounds.
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JohnS wrote:
21 Apr 2024, 7:00am
Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 4:33pm
Flex wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:57pm
Marky Dread wrote:
20 Apr 2024, 3:36pm
I mentioned this stuff way back and got some short shrift at the time for my views. My main beef was the stuff that ended up on Ebay without any chance of genuine fans getting them from the retail outlet. Now it's even worse with bad pressings and some (not all) bad releases. Way more thought and care should be going into these RSD releases but then thought and care doesn't equal dollars and pounds.
You're always ahead of your time, Mr. Dread ;)
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Since working at a record store, I have a visceral aversion to RSD anyway.
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Kory wrote:
22 Apr 2024, 2:19pm
Since working at a record store, I have a visceral aversion to RSD anyway.
I put more effort into the remasters I do than 95% of these RSD releases.
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Proof that Sparky is history's greatest monster: https://mixmag.net/read/report-released ... ustry-news
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What do you think about Sandy Duncan as ambassador to Panama? - Richard Nixon to John Ehrlichman and Bob Haldeman, Oval Office, 19 November 1972

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