Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Posted: 17 Jan 2023, 2:21pm
by matedog
Forgot to post this yesterday:
Irrespective of the, uh, problematic video, I feel like the beat on this song has aged better than a lot of the other Bomb Squad stuff from 87-91. It almost seems Dre/G-Funk influenced with the slower tempo and eschewing the cacophony of the "classic" period. I feel like this is an easier sell than "Rebel Without a Pause" for example.
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Irrespective of the, uh, problematic video, I feel like the beat on this song has aged better than a lot of the other Bomb Squad stuff from 87-91. It almost seems Dre/G-Funk influenced with the slower tempo and eschewing the cacophony of the "classic" period. I feel like this is an easier sell than "Rebel Without a Pause" for example.
I love this song.
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 6:56pm
by revbob
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Irrespective of the, uh, problematic video, I feel like the beat on this song has aged better than a lot of the other Bomb Squad stuff from 87-91. It almost seems Dre/G-Funk influenced with the slower tempo and eschewing the cacophony of the "classic" period. I feel like this is an easier sell than "Rebel Without a Pause" for example.
I've got no problem with the video.
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Irrespective of the, uh, problematic video, I feel like the beat on this song has aged better than a lot of the other Bomb Squad stuff from 87-91. It almost seems Dre/G-Funk influenced with the slower tempo and eschewing the cacophony of the "classic" period. I feel like this is an easier sell than "Rebel Without a Pause" for example.
I've got no problem with the video.
Hello,
Although I prefer the more chaotic Public Enemy, the militancy of this video should be taken very contextually. I was around during this era (yes, I'm old) and the anger was at this level. It should be noted Public Enemy addressed anyone black or white they felt was wrong including JET magazine.
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 11:25am
by revbob
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 11:38am
by WestwayKid
This was great. The Grammys are silly, but they got this moment right. Nice job of bringing the genre from the early days to the present, getting some heavy hitters involved along the way.
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Wow, I was not expecting that first n-word drop. That being said, the more it went on, the more clearly this was a parody/hoax.
Definitely a parody, but also hilarious and very well done.
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 1:36pm
by WestwayKid
This is great.
EIGHT RULES FOR WHITE PEOPLE WHO LIKE HIP-HOP (from LA Weekly):
1) When singing along to rap songs with the n-word, substitue “ninja”
This is Gucci Mane's advice, and it makes a certain amount of sense, be it for karaoke or live shows or whatever. We recommend it even if Schoolboy Q gives you a temporary pass.
2) Don't assume black rappers hate or are uncomfortable around white people
As a white guy who writes about rap music, I'm asked constantly, even today, “how that is.” The implication is that hip-hop is a racist black fraternity where outsiders aren't welcome. It also implies that black rappers aren't professional, or at least aren't familiar with or comfortable around white people. This doesn't make a bit of sense if one has even a passing familiarity with the media or celebrity or life in the 21st century.
3) Like what you like
White people apologizing for the kind of hip-hop they prefer — especially because they think it's not sufficiently “street” — is super lame. Growing up I had this bizarre idea that A Tribe Called Quest was only for white people, but everyone loves that shit. Also, don't think that liking militant political hip-hop or gangsta rap makes you cool or relatable to black people.
4) When you're saying rap names like “Lil Wayne” or “Masta Killa” just say them in the traditional white person way
Don't try to say “Lil.” You sound like a moron. Just say “Little.” And “Master” and “Killer.” No one will bat an eyelash.
5) Just don't use an accent
Like, at all, ever. Just talk how you naturally talk. Only Bubba Sparxxx can be Bubba Sparxxx.
6) Don't giggle or act nervous when you talk about hip-hop
Rock music is not the “default” favorite music of white folks; rap is the preferred strain for millions of Caucasian people around the world. Liking hip-hop is not weird, or a novelty. You won't be thrown out of your parents' country club.
7) Don't use terms like “gat” or “hood rat” or anything with a loaded racial etymology
Even as a joke. Especially as a joke. In addition to casually racist, you'll sound super outdated.
8) Don't beat box
Unless you know how, which you don't.
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 3:53pm
by JennyB
Does Ninja have racist undertones at all?
Re: "I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie" - The Hip Hop Thread
White people apologizing for the kind of hip-hop they prefer — especially because they think it's not sufficiently “street” — is super lame. Growing up I had this bizarre idea that A Tribe Called Quest was only for white people, but everyone loves that shit. Also, don't think that liking militant political hip-hop or gangsta rap makes you cool or relatable to black people.
I'm only insecure talking about hip hop because I don't know it as well. I know what it's like when someone tries to talk to me about something I'm deep into but I know they aren't nearly as deep into, so I try to be cognizant of it.
Reminds me of the Amoeba Record store video series "What's In My Bag" with the guy from the synth pop band Future Islands:
I've never heard of 90% of the groups he talks in depth about - Latyrx, Omid Walizadeh, Vitamin D, Tribal Music, Divine Styler, Roots Manuva, Freestyle Fellowship. That is a real hip hop fan.
4) When you're saying rap names like “Lil Wayne” or “Masta Killa” just say them in the traditional white person way
White people apologizing for the kind of hip-hop they prefer — especially because they think it's not sufficiently “street” — is super lame. Growing up I had this bizarre idea that A Tribe Called Quest was only for white people, but everyone loves that shit. Also, don't think that liking militant political hip-hop or gangsta rap makes you cool or relatable to black people.
I'm only insecure talking about hip hop because I don't know it as well. I know what it's like when someone tries to talk to me about something I'm deep into but I know they aren't nearly as deep into, so I try to be cognizant of it.
Reminds me of the Amoeba Record store video series "What's In My Bag" with the guy from the synth pop band Future Islands:
I've never heard of 90% of the groups he talks in depth about - Latyrx, Omid Walizadeh, Vitamin D, Tribal Music, Divine Styler, Roots Manuva, Freestyle Fellowship. That is a real hip hop fan.
4) When you're saying rap names like “Lil Wayne” or “Masta Killa” just say them in the traditional white person way
