...Touche?matedog wrote:I could try to get into a serious discussion but I won't since you are basically right.Wolter wrote:What in your prior posts provides evidence to warrant you rolling your eyes?matedog wrote:eumaas wrote:Which probably would in hindsight not be as awesome as when I finally see him.Special Patrol wrote:That sounds awesome. But not as awesome as when I saw him...Yes.Joey Baron is the drummer of Masada right? Because he is pretty much the best drummer I know, and when I saw Zorn, he was phenomenal. He did do loads of weird stuff, but it all sounded good.
Matey, being a slavish follower of mainstream taste, doesn't understand the place of extended techniques in avant-garde music.Sevilla's good but Tonic 2001 is better. I prefer Masada to NC and the file card compositions.Live in Sevilla is a great album, and I like all Masada I've heard, but I like Naked City and Spillane better.
I'm feeling Zorny
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Hey Matey, sorry if I offended, I was just giving you the business. Actually, it means quite a lot to me that you were willing to gamble your money and go see a show based on my recommendation, and I really appreciate it as a friend.matedog wrote:I could try to get into a serious discussion but I won't since you are basically right.Wolter wrote:What in your prior posts provides evidence to warrant you rolling your eyes?matedog wrote:eumaas wrote:Which probably would in hindsight not be as awesome as when I finally see him.Special Patrol wrote:That sounds awesome. But not as awesome as when I saw him...Yes.Joey Baron is the drummer of Masada right? Because he is pretty much the best drummer I know, and when I saw Zorn, he was phenomenal. He did do loads of weird stuff, but it all sounded good.
Matey, being a slavish follower of mainstream taste, doesn't understand the place of extended techniques in avant-garde music.Sevilla's good but Tonic 2001 is better. I prefer Masada to NC and the file card compositions.Live in Sevilla is a great album, and I like all Masada I've heard, but I like Naked City and Spillane better.
OK, sorry for the softie stuff, guys.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Nah, I feel like I read it less facetiously than it was intended. I was already set on buying the record you recommended. I was just touchy because I do like some more non-traditional stuff (occasional fusion, post-rock, less standard forms of jazz) and also that I do come from the drumming background so feel I am knowledgeable on that particular instrument in most settings. I didn't criticize the content of the horn solos because I am way unfamiliar with free jazz (and related) improv and theory.eumaas wrote:Hey Matey, sorry if I offended, I was just giving you the business. Actually, it means quite a lot to me that you were willing to gamble your money and go see a show based on my recommendation, and I really appreciate it as a friend.matedog wrote:I could try to get into a serious discussion but I won't since you are basically right.Wolter wrote:What in your prior posts provides evidence to warrant you rolling your eyes?matedog wrote:eumaas wrote: Which probably would in hindsight not be as awesome as when I finally see him. Yes.
Matey, being a slavish follower of mainstream taste, doesn't understand the place of extended techniques in avant-garde music. Sevilla's good but Tonic 2001 is better. I prefer Masada to NC and the file card compositions.
OK, sorry for the softie stuff, guys.
Alright that was more long winded than was necessary. Back to commenting on Cut the Crap.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Sure, and I get the critique. Actually, I prefer vanilla Masada to their more avant-garde ventures. I don't care for the cartoon pieces (what probably read as "free jazz" to you).matedog wrote:Nah, I feel like I read it less facetiously than it was intended. I was already set on buying the record you recommended. I was just touchy because I do like some more non-traditional stuff (occasional fusion, post-rock, less standard forms of jazz) and also that I do come from the drumming background so feel I am knowledgeable on that particular instrument in most settings. I didn't criticize the content of the horn solos because I am way unfamiliar with free jazz (and related) improv and theory.
Alright that was more long winded than was necessary. Back to commenting on Cut the Crap.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Nice and friendly video interview con nuestra maestro:
http://lxtv.com/1stlookny/video/9730
http://lxtv.com/1stlookny/video/9730
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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I haven't read it yet, but there's an article on Zorn in this month's Harper's.
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You have a subscription maybe?Inder wrote:I haven't read it yet, but there's an article on Zorn in this month's Harper's.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Alright, I gave you call this afternoon because I went record shopping with my birthday gift card. Supposedly they had Tonic 2001 in stock but I could not find it after ten-fifteen minutes of searching. Are there any other recs that are equitable?eumaas wrote:Your first Masada purchase should be Live at Tonic 2001, a release that burns like a son of a bitch**. I listened to it while Dr. Goldstein took out my four wisdom teeth.
"Masada," he said, "isn't that a place in Israel?"
"Unnhngh," I replied.
** Joey Baron is a DEMON on this record. Actually, a guy related to me once how his jazz drummer buddy decided to quit playing drums after seeing Masada play.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I heard this in a Zoidberg voice.eumaas wrote: You have a subscription maybe?
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I went record shopping today since I had a nice gift certificate. Supposedly they had Tonic 01 in stock but after ten minutes of searching in the Zorn section, I could not find it. Any other suggestions?eumaas wrote:Your first Masada purchase should be Live at Tonic 2001, a release that burns like a son of a bitch**. I listened to it while Dr. Goldstein took out my four wisdom teeth.
"Masada," he said, "isn't that a place in Israel?"
"Unnhngh," I replied.
** Joey Baron is a DEMON on this record. Actually, a guy related to me once how his jazz drummer buddy decided to quit playing drums after seeing Masada play.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Hey bud, new phone cos I don't live in Virginia anymore. I'd need to know what was available, but Sevilla is a good consolation prize.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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From my memory:eumaas wrote:Hey bud, new phone cos I don't live in Virginia anymore. I'd need to know what was available, but Sevilla is a good consolation prize.
Taipai, Middleheim, Rock, String Trio, First Live 93, Electric, maybe Sevilla.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I'd go for Sevilla first, String Trio second.matedog wrote:From my memory:eumaas wrote:Hey bud, new phone cos I don't live in Virginia anymore. I'd need to know what was available, but Sevilla is a good consolation prize.
Taipai, Middleheim, Rock, String Trio, First Live 93, Electric, maybe Sevilla.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Listening to "Acharei Mot", 7:24 through 9:26 is basically one long "holy shit" moment.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Something doesn't add up.