So what's your concert schedule looking like?

[Kory]

A lot of people think of fratty qualities as a joke, though I agree that there's two things to hate about 3rd wave from the perspective of people on the outside. I don't think I'd consider Sublime to be serious though.

I agree Sublime aren't really serious. They're fuckin' clowns. I just meant that they didn't make a lot of outright jokes or have goofy imagery (at least on their self titled, actually popular album. Date Rape and Smoke Two Joints are, I guess, "joke" songs) and whatnot like a lot of third wave bands so if you ask, like, my wife or someone who knows about them from the couple of videos that popped up on MTV in the 90s, I don't think she'd describe them as a joke or jokey or whatever (we've had a conversation about them recently, as it happens, since we were discussing which 90s charting songs we remember and she vaguely recalled them. Not a fan, but mostly because they seemed scuzzy. Which they were).

Do you hate that people perceive ska as jokey or do you hate that some people within ska are jokey? Or both? I'm with you on neither point, I don't think. I used to have a bit of a cloud over my head about how ska is remembered/considered in the public mind, but I just think it's funny that people think ska is funny and also I like that ska is sometimes funny and fun. Sometimes being funny and fun is fun.

I think it's an issue that's deeper than ska. I like some jokey bands, for example, Skankin' Pickle, Fishbone (not always super jokey but they do have a zany quality from time to time). Although I think most regulars here know I'm not a huge fan of "fun" in music generally (Bad Manners and Madness are my least favorite of the 2 Tone sphere of influence). But the real issue for me is how people's perception comes at the expense of trad ska or the more weighty 2 Tone groups. Just my frustration at a lack of public knowledge creating an umbrella opinion about something that's much more complex and the resistance to learning about any of it.

[Flex]

I think it's an issue that's deeper than ska. I like some jokey bands, for example, Skankin' Pickle, Fishbone (not always super jokey but they do have a zany quality from time to time). Although I think most regulars here know I'm not a huge fan of "fun" in music generally (Bad Manners and Madness are my least favorite of the 2 Tone sphere of influence). But the real issue for me is how people's perception comes at the expense of trad ska or the more weighty 2 Tone groups. Just my frustration at a lack of public knowledge creating an umbrella opinion about something that's much more complex and the resistance to learning about any of it.

To paraphrase George Carlin: "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them think ska is all jokes"

[Kory]

I knew I read something about concert prices rising recently, this is from a few months back and Colorado specific: but ticket prices basically outstripped inflation so, yeah, going to concerts is more expensive than it used to be: https://coloradosun.com/2023/11/28/colo ... ets-price/

That's why I mostly go to free shows or, like, 1 or 2 tentpole shows a year.

I spend a ton of money on shows, I guess it's just something I've sighed about and accepted as something I can't change. This is compounded by the fact that I usually buy 2–3 tickets without having anyone lined up to go with.

I do this.

I need to stop. People can get their own damn tickets if they want to go.

[revbob]

I knew I read something about concert prices rising recently, this is from a few months back and Colorado specific: but ticket prices basically outstripped inflation so, yeah, going to concerts is more expensive than it used to be: https://coloradosun.com/2023/11/28/colo ... ets-price/

That's why I mostly go to free shows or, like, 1 or 2 tentpole shows a year.

I spend a ton of money on shows, I guess it's just something I've sighed about and accepted as something I can't change. This is compounded by the fact that I usually buy 2–3 tickets without having anyone lined up to go with.

I do this.

I need to stop. People can get their own damn tickets if they want to go.

I normally get reimbursed or drinks are on them

[revbob]

Not music but going to see Seth Myers tonight

[Kory]

Not music but going to see Seth Myers tonight

Tell him hi for me.

[BR16ADE_R055E]

The Damned (with Rat Scabies!) USA/Canada tour:

[white man]

Went to see Ian Prowse(again) last Friday. Excellent as always. Should have been at The Pretenders on Saturday but Chrissie postponed.
https://narcmagazine.com/live-review-ia ... -23-02-24/

[Spiff]

Went to see Ian Prowse(again) last Friday. Excellent as always. Should have been at The Pretenders on Saturday but Chrissie postponed.
https://narcmagazine.com/live-review-ia ... -23-02-24/

I saw The Pretenders about 12 years ago or so.

I was struck (and disappointed) by the fact that all the songs followed the recorded versions note for note.

Not a single improvisation or new arrangement!

That was the first (and hopefully last) time I've ever seen a live show where that was the case.

[Flex]

Went to see Ian Prowse(again) last Friday. Excellent as always. Should have been at The Pretenders on Saturday but Chrissie postponed.
https://narcmagazine.com/live-review-ia ... -23-02-24/

I saw The Pretenders about 12 years ago or so.

I was struck (and disappointed) by the fact that all the songs followed the recorded versions note for note.

Not a single improvisation or new arrangement!

That was the first (and hopefully last) time I've ever seen a live show where that was the case.

I remember seeing the who twice and they did literally the same set years apart with the same between song banter and everything. One of the most disappointing concert experiences of my life.

[JennyB]

Went to see Ian Prowse(again) last Friday. Excellent as always. Should have been at The Pretenders on Saturday but Chrissie postponed.
https://narcmagazine.com/live-review-ia ... -23-02-24/

I saw The Pretenders about 12 years ago or so.

I was struck (and disappointed) by the fact that all the songs followed the recorded versions note for note.

Not a single improvisation or new arrangement!

That was the first (and hopefully last) time I've ever seen a live show where that was the case.

I remember seeing the who twice and they did literally the same set years apart with the same between song banter and everything. One of the most disappointing concert experiences of my life.

This is why, even though I have seen them like 16 times, the Violent Femmes never get old. They don't even have a setlist. Every single concert is different. Sure, they play the songs they have to play...but not always.

[Dr. Medulla]

Went to see Ian Prowse(again) last Friday. Excellent as always. Should have been at The Pretenders on Saturday but Chrissie postponed.
https://narcmagazine.com/live-review-ia ... -23-02-24/

I saw The Pretenders about 12 years ago or so.

I was struck (and disappointed) by the fact that all the songs followed the recorded versions note for note.

Not a single improvisation or new arrangement!

That was the first (and hopefully last) time I've ever seen a live show where that was the case.

I remember seeing the who twice and they did literally the same set years apart with the same between song banter and everything. One of the most disappointing concert experiences of my life.

This is why, even though I have seen them like 16 times, the Violent Femmes never get old. They don't even have a setlist. Every single concert is different. Sure, they play the songs they have to play...but not always.

Jen, the time Violent Femmes did an all Depeche Mode show.

[coffeepotman]

I just scored primo tix to see The Damned on what might be their final tour, you don't want to miss this one

[revbob]

I just scored primo tix to see The Damned on what might be their final tour, you don't want to miss this one

I would but apparently they are too good to play Vermont

[JennyB]

Went to see Ian Prowse(again) last Friday. Excellent as always. Should have been at The Pretenders on Saturday but Chrissie postponed.
https://narcmagazine.com/live-review-ia ... -23-02-24/

I saw The Pretenders about 12 years ago or so.

I was struck (and disappointed) by the fact that all the songs followed the recorded versions note for note.

Not a single improvisation or new arrangement!

That was the first (and hopefully last) time I've ever seen a live show where that was the case.

I remember seeing the who twice and they did literally the same set years apart with the same between song banter and everything. One of the most disappointing concert experiences of my life.

This is why, even though I have seen them like 16 times, the Violent Femmes never get old. They don't even have a setlist. Every single concert is different. Sure, they play the songs they have to play...but not always.

Jen, the time Violent Femmes did an all Depeche Mode show.

That would be quite something for a band with a guitar, standing bass and a weber grill to pull off!