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I was tired of the Weezer schtick from the get go and Toto?

So the question is if you take shit and mix it with a different type of shit, say horse and dog, do you not still yield shit?

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matedog wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:19pm
Fucking Weezer does me zero favors when I try to espouse that there is some really good stuff in their post-Pinkerton catalog. Even through their last album.
I'm amused and baffled by the irritation that they generate. They're a power pop band and generally pretty good. They aren't "significant" or vanguardist in any way. They produce fun, catchy, and lively pop songs. But it seems like every album is greeted like Dylan plugging in his guitar at Newport. That they generate such … expectations, I guess, that are never met is a mystery to me.
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Just listened to the teal album. Pretty fun. It's a recursive joke about online memes, basically. But the result is a set of kinda funny, and very listenable, covers. I'd missed their cover of No Scrubs, which is excellent.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:31pm
I'm amused and baffled by the irritation that they generate. They're a power pop band and generally pretty good. They aren't "significant" or vanguardist in any way. They produce fun, catchy, and lively pop songs. But it seems like every album is greeted like Dylan plugging in his guitar at Newport. That they generate such … expectations, I guess, that are never met is a mystery to me.
I think Pinkerton is pretty much regarded as a major masterpiece, and rightfully so. That they've never replicated that height gets them negative reviews, but it's probably an unfair standard to hold them to.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:31pm
matedog wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:19pm
Fucking Weezer does me zero favors when I try to espouse that there is some really good stuff in their post-Pinkerton catalog. Even through their last album.
I'm amused and baffled by the irritation that they generate. They're a power pop band and generally pretty good. They aren't "significant" or vanguardist in any way. They produce fun, catchy, and lively pop songs. But it seems like every album is greeted like Dylan plugging in his guitar at Newport. That they generate such … expectations, I guess, that are never met is a mystery to me.
Some of the most fun shows I've ever been to have been Weezer shows. I saw one of their comeback concerts just prior to The Green Album and it was fantastic. They're just a fun band and I've always enjoyed listening to them.
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He we done a Top 5 for Weezer yet? That would be kinda fun. I could just list Africa five times. :shifty:
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Weezer is proof that when you've got an album cover that works, you should run it into the ground for a quarter century.

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Flex wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:31pm
I'm amused and baffled by the irritation that they generate. They're a power pop band and generally pretty good. They aren't "significant" or vanguardist in any way. They produce fun, catchy, and lively pop songs. But it seems like every album is greeted like Dylan plugging in his guitar at Newport. That they generate such … expectations, I guess, that are never met is a mystery to me.
I think Pinkerton is pretty much regarded as a major masterpiece, and rightfully so. That they've never replicated that height gets them negative reviews, but it's probably an unfair standard to hold them to.
That masterpiece status eludes my ears. Every so often I play it again to see if it clicks. Good album, certainly, but there's a reverence for it that I've never picked up on.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 3:11pm
That masterpiece status eludes my ears. Every so often I play it again to see if it clicks. Good album, certainly, but there's a reverence for it that I've never picked up on.
That's because you're too old for it, Gramps! It's for the young kids who are in their, uhhhhh... *checks year* mid to late 30s.
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Flex wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 3:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 3:11pm
That masterpiece status eludes my ears. Every so often I play it again to see if it clicks. Good album, certainly, but there's a reverence for it that I've never picked up on.
That's because you're too old for it, Gramps! It's for the young kids who are in their, uhhhhh... *checks year* mid to late 30s.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 3:11pm
Flex wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:31pm
I'm amused and baffled by the irritation that they generate. They're a power pop band and generally pretty good. They aren't "significant" or vanguardist in any way. They produce fun, catchy, and lively pop songs. But it seems like every album is greeted like Dylan plugging in his guitar at Newport. That they generate such … expectations, I guess, that are never met is a mystery to me.
I think Pinkerton is pretty much regarded as a major masterpiece, and rightfully so. That they've never replicated that height gets them negative reviews, but it's probably an unfair standard to hold them to.
That masterpiece status eludes my ears. Every so often I play it again to see if it clicks. Good album, certainly, but there's a reverence for it that I've never picked up on.
It's really elevated when you pick up on the concept and story being told throughout the album (for example, the cello player love interest in El Scorcho is the same one he pines for in Falling For You ("you left your cello in the basement")). I always preferred Blue album because it's catchier, but
there is more thematically to Pinkerton. And it's such a perfectly ugly sounding record too - lots of feedback, Rivers shreds his vocals, the drums are dry as shit, the backing vocals are sloppily sung in unison into a single mic. And "Butterfly" is such an ugly note to end on (interestingly as a soft, acoustic number), completely upending the whole characterization of the narrator. The songs are just so brutally and often uncomfortably honest.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 3:11pm
Flex wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:31pm
I'm amused and baffled by the irritation that they generate. They're a power pop band and generally pretty good. They aren't "significant" or vanguardist in any way. They produce fun, catchy, and lively pop songs. But it seems like every album is greeted like Dylan plugging in his guitar at Newport. That they generate such … expectations, I guess, that are never met is a mystery to me.
I think Pinkerton is pretty much regarded as a major masterpiece, and rightfully so. That they've never replicated that height gets them negative reviews, but it's probably an unfair standard to hold them to.
That masterpiece status eludes my ears. Every so often I play it again to see if it clicks. Good album, certainly, but there's a reverence for it that I've never picked up on.
It's really elevated when you pick up on the concept and story being told throughout the album (for example, the cello player love interest in El Scorcho is the same one he pines for in Falling For You ("you left your cello in the basement")). I always preferred Blue album because it's catchier, but
there is more thematically to Pinkerton. And it's such a perfectly ugly sounding record too - lots of feedback, Rivers shreds his vocals, the drums are dry as shit, the backing vocals are sloppily sung in unison into a single mic. And "Butterfly" is such an ugly note to end on (interestingly as a soft, acoustic number), completely upending the whole characterization of the narrator. The songs are just so brutally and often uncomfortably honest.
Well put, and I'll add my voice in for the major masterpiece assessment.
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matedog wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 4:03pm
And it's such a perfectly ugly sounding record too - lots of feedback, Rivers shreds his vocals, the drums are dry as shit, the backing vocals are sloppily sung in unison into a single mic.
Which I do like a lot, even if Weezer is better at more conventional power pop.
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matedog wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 3:11pm
Flex wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 2:31pm
I'm amused and baffled by the irritation that they generate. They're a power pop band and generally pretty good. They aren't "significant" or vanguardist in any way. They produce fun, catchy, and lively pop songs. But it seems like every album is greeted like Dylan plugging in his guitar at Newport. That they generate such … expectations, I guess, that are never met is a mystery to me.
I think Pinkerton is pretty much regarded as a major masterpiece, and rightfully so. That they've never replicated that height gets them negative reviews, but it's probably an unfair standard to hold them to.
That masterpiece status eludes my ears. Every so often I play it again to see if it clicks. Good album, certainly, but there's a reverence for it that I've never picked up on.
It's really elevated when you pick up on the concept and story being told throughout the album (for example, the cello player love interest in El Scorcho is the same one he pines for in Falling For You ("you left your cello in the basement")). I always preferred Blue album because it's catchier, but
there is more thematically to Pinkerton. And it's such a perfectly ugly sounding record too - lots of feedback, Rivers shreds his vocals, the drums are dry as shit, the backing vocals are sloppily sung in unison into a single mic. And "Butterfly" is such an ugly note to end on (interestingly as a soft, acoustic number), completely upending the whole characterization of the narrator. The songs are just so brutally and often uncomfortably honest.

I loved Pinkerton when it came out, but the lyrical content has aged...problematically...in this era or toxic nerd masculinity.

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