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matedog wrote:
22 May 2023, 10:49am

Guns n Roses filmed this show in 1991 post-Adler, pre-Izzy exodus and didn't release it until 2018. Regardless of what you think about the band/song/etc, this footage looks spectacular - close ups, distant shots, slow pans, quick cuts, lots of fan shots (that mosh pit shot right when the band kicks in reminds you that this band hadn't fully given into Illusion era bloat just yet). The fact that they sat on this (other than using clips in the You Could Be Mine video) gives me some modicum of hope for things like the Lewisham audio getting released some day. Basically, it's not just The Clash that sits on amazing stuff for no good reason.
I'd honestly love this as a live album.
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matedog wrote:
22 May 2023, 10:44am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 May 2023, 8:58am
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/6-theoret ... ly-drafts/

This reminds of a (to my memory) funny sketch that was on the short-lived House of Buggin' in the 90s. The premise was a documentary on the lost Village Person, whose persona was medieval knight and outfit was a full set of armor. So he was clunking around on stage with the others, trying to do "Macho Man" and "YMCA." The other aspect was his ignorance that he was in a gay group, and as the sketch went on it slowly dawned on him, concluding, "Huh, I guess we did do a lot of songs about guys hanging out together." Tragically, I can find *zero* reference to this sketch online—not on youtube, not even discussions, which makes me think I'm confused.
I 100% remember this sketch. I didn't remember it specifically from House of Buggin' which, holy shit, I have not thought about since probably 1996, but that's definitely possible.
Thank fuck I'm not imagining it. Tho maybe I'm wrong about it being House of Buggin'. MadTV maybe?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 May 2023, 11:16am
matedog wrote:
22 May 2023, 10:44am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 May 2023, 8:58am
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/6-theoret ... ly-drafts/

This reminds of a (to my memory) funny sketch that was on the short-lived House of Buggin' in the 90s. The premise was a documentary on the lost Village Person, whose persona was medieval knight and outfit was a full set of armor. So he was clunking around on stage with the others, trying to do "Macho Man" and "YMCA." The other aspect was his ignorance that he was in a gay group, and as the sketch went on it slowly dawned on him, concluding, "Huh, I guess we did do a lot of songs about guys hanging out together." Tragically, I can find *zero* reference to this sketch online—not on youtube, not even discussions, which makes me think I'm confused.
I 100% remember this sketch. I didn't remember it specifically from House of Buggin' which, holy shit, I have not thought about since probably 1996, but that's definitely possible.
Thank fuck I'm not imagining it. Tho maybe I'm wrong about it being House of Buggin'. MadTV maybe?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 May 2023, 11:16am
matedog wrote:
22 May 2023, 10:44am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 May 2023, 8:58am
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/6-theoret ... ly-drafts/

This reminds of a (to my memory) funny sketch that was on the short-lived House of Buggin' in the 90s. The premise was a documentary on the lost Village Person, whose persona was medieval knight and outfit was a full set of armor. So he was clunking around on stage with the others, trying to do "Macho Man" and "YMCA." The other aspect was his ignorance that he was in a gay group, and as the sketch went on it slowly dawned on him, concluding, "Huh, I guess we did do a lot of songs about guys hanging out together." Tragically, I can find *zero* reference to this sketch online—not on youtube, not even discussions, which makes me think I'm confused.
I 100% remember this sketch. I didn't remember it specifically from House of Buggin' which, holy shit, I have not thought about since probably 1996, but that's definitely possible.
Thank fuck I'm not imagining it. Tho maybe I'm wrong about it being House of Buggin'. MadTV maybe?
Your initial memory was correct:
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matedog wrote:
22 May 2023, 11:33am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 May 2023, 11:16am
matedog wrote:
22 May 2023, 10:44am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 May 2023, 8:58am
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/6-theoret ... ly-drafts/

This reminds of a (to my memory) funny sketch that was on the short-lived House of Buggin' in the 90s. The premise was a documentary on the lost Village Person, whose persona was medieval knight and outfit was a full set of armor. So he was clunking around on stage with the others, trying to do "Macho Man" and "YMCA." The other aspect was his ignorance that he was in a gay group, and as the sketch went on it slowly dawned on him, concluding, "Huh, I guess we did do a lot of songs about guys hanging out together." Tragically, I can find *zero* reference to this sketch online—not on youtube, not even discussions, which makes me think I'm confused.
I 100% remember this sketch. I didn't remember it specifically from House of Buggin' which, holy shit, I have not thought about since probably 1996, but that's definitely possible.
Thank fuck I'm not imagining it. Tho maybe I'm wrong about it being House of Buggin'. MadTV maybe?
Your initial memory was correct:
While I'm glad I haven't been hallucinating it all this time, why does it not exist online anywhere?
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I honestly had no knowledge of that show, or even that John leguziamo used to be a stand up comic, really. Seems like the sort of show that would be ripe for a specialty dvd release.
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Flex wrote:
22 May 2023, 12:18pm
I honestly had no knowledge of that show, or even that John leguziamo used to be a stand up comic, really. Seems like the sort of show that would be ripe for a specialty dvd release.
One season, ten episodes. Seems perfect for Shout Factory.
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Flex wrote:
22 May 2023, 12:18pm
I honestly had no knowledge of that show, or even that John leguziamo used to be a stand up comic, really. Seems like the sort of show that would be ripe for a specialty dvd release.
To be fair, you are less obsessed with 1994 than I am.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Love it, saved a copy to my "Clash" folder.
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With an acknowledgment that we all age... this is kind of rough.



She still sounds good on this version from 2009:



It might not be fair to compare this against the Nocturne version (complete with Robert Smith on guitar)... but...

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WestwayKid wrote:
25 May 2023, 11:11am
With an acknowledgment that we all age... this is kind of rough.

She still sounds good on this version from 2009:

It might not be fair to compare this against the Nocturne version (complete with Robert Smith on guitar)... but...
Agreed, it's kind of rough, but that goes with the territory when you get older. My hat's off to her to having the guts and the drive to go out on tour at age 65, probably knowing that it's not going to be the way it used to be, but her fans appreciated it I'm sure.
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Sparky wrote:
25 May 2023, 1:07pm
WestwayKid wrote:
25 May 2023, 11:11am
With an acknowledgment that we all age... this is kind of rough.

She still sounds good on this version from 2009:

It might not be fair to compare this against the Nocturne version (complete with Robert Smith on guitar)... but...
Agreed, it's kind of rough, but that goes with the territory when you get older. My hat's off to her to having the guts and the drive to go out on tour at age 65, probably knowing that it's not going to be the way it used to be, but her fans appreciated it I'm sure.
I go back and forth on this. I respect the heck out of Paul Simon, for instance, for retiring from touring. If you're Mick Jagger and you still sound like it's 1973 - go for it. I think I actually posed this question a few years back, but is there a retirement age for performers? Or is it go until you literally can't go on stage anymore?
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WestwayKid wrote:
25 May 2023, 4:03pm
Sparky wrote:
25 May 2023, 1:07pm
WestwayKid wrote:
25 May 2023, 11:11am
With an acknowledgment that we all age... this is kind of rough.

She still sounds good on this version from 2009:

It might not be fair to compare this against the Nocturne version (complete with Robert Smith on guitar)... but...
Agreed, it's kind of rough, but that goes with the territory when you get older. My hat's off to her to having the guts and the drive to go out on tour at age 65, probably knowing that it's not going to be the way it used to be, but her fans appreciated it I'm sure.
I go back and forth on this. I respect the heck out of Paul Simon, for instance, for retiring from touring. If you're Mick Jagger and you still sound like it's 1973 - go for it. I think I actually posed this question a few years back, but is there a retirement age for performers? Or is it go until you literally can't go on stage anymore?
I'm have to agree with you, it takes a lot of self searching to know when it's time to hang it up, I'm guessing this will be Siouxsie's last tour.
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